Quick Look: Any red flags with this home? GF is considering it.

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Aikouka

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I see an air vent to the basement in pictures 24 and 26, but the basement isn't finished. I'm assuming you'd want to keep those closed to avoid losing heat? I also see a small space heater down there in one of the photos.
 

stormkroe

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The island/peninsula bar overhand doesn't have any 45degree bracing, will lift or break when a kid, drunk/fat buddy leans elbows and body weight on it. Couldn't tell from the pic, but water heater looks like it may be sitting directly on the concrete. It and the furnace should be elevated on housekeeping pads. If the AC condenser doesn't have rubber between brackets and concrete, the house will vibrate when it runs. Floor might be bouncy in one spot, the basement pic with the washer/dryer in it shows an insane joist span, could just be a deceptive camera angle. House looks pretty new, wonder why they didn't use decora style electrical devices?
Also, loose insulation in the basement should be covered at least with craft paper. That will destroy your air quality more than the outside conditions.
 

mizzou

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Is it low enough that you will be required to purchase flood insurance? Flood insurance isn't included with normal house insurance. People whine about the extra expense of PMI - Flood insurance is also one of those extra expenses that a duplicate home in a better location wouldn't have.

not even close. if that thing floods we are all in trouble! that region of stlouis sits atop a big bluff.
 

TechBoyJK

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Update:

We went for a tour this weekend. Gorgeous house. The owner is a cop and the place was kept really nice.

However, we decided it was just too close to the quarry.

It was close enough that we could hear some explosions and lots of trucks when we were taking the tour, and since we have 4 cats and allergies, we just couldn't rationalize it.

Fortunately, our realtor found us a house about 1 mile away, farther inland and up on a hill, that the gf ended up making an offer on (contingent that it passes inspection).

It needs some work; lots of it actually, but it's $190k and nestled among $300k-$400k homes. You have to drive through a really nice upscale mini subdivision (maybe less than 15 homes) which leads to a private drive. There's about 6 older houses on this private drive, each with big lots. (1-2 acres).

GF put in an offer ans we're waiting to hear back. I'm already talking to my contractor friend about going out to bid on some of the work we want done. We'll paint, clean the carpets, etc. but some of the kitchen renovations will need to be done by a pro.

http://www.trulia.com/property/3223517527-5051-Ivondale-Ln-Saint-Louis-MO-63129
 

Scarpozzi

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Update:

We went for a tour this weekend. Gorgeous house. The owner is a cop and the place was kept really nice.

However, we decided it was just too close to the quarry.

It was close enough that we could hear some explosions and lots of trucks when we were taking the tour, and since we have 4 cats and allergies, we just couldn't rationalize it.

Fortunately, our realtor found us a house about 1 mile away, farther inland and up on a hill, that the gf ended up making an offer on (contingent that it passes inspection).

It needs some work; lots of it actually, but it's $190k and nestled among $300k-$400k homes. You have to drive through a really nice upscale mini subdivision (maybe less than 15 homes) which leads to a private drive. There's about 6 older houses on this private drive, each with big lots. (1-2 acres).

GF put in an offer ans we're waiting to hear back. I'm already talking to my contractor friend about going out to bid on some of the work we want done. We'll paint, clean the carpets, etc. but some of the kitchen renovations will need to be done by a pro.

http://www.trulia.com/property/3223517527-5051-Ivondale-Ln-Saint-Louis-MO-63129


That's a shame. It would have been cool if your GF could have worked at the quarry and simply slid down her dino to get home each day.

Good deal. It's nice to live in house on the block with room to appreciate and leave the higher prices to the suckers when you're young. 5 years time and a little work, it may be an easy $50-60k+ payback if she decides to move after doing the work.
 

TechBoyJK

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That's a shame. It would have been cool if your GF could have worked at the quarry and simply slid down her dino to get home each day.

Good deal. It's nice to live in house on the block with room to appreciate and leave the higher prices to the suckers when you're young. 5 years time and a little work, it may be an easy $50-60k+ payback if she decides to move after doing the work.

That's what we're thinking. And our realtor said same thing. Find some nice faux stone siding and reface the front of the house to look more like the expensive homes. If it's done right, it'll make the house feel like it's part of the expensive neighborhood. The siding's on it's last leg anyway. Probably 5 years before it HAS to be fixed. There's some spots out back where the siding is broken or rotten. We're thinking we can pull the good stuff from the front and patch the back. Then 5 years from now redo everything.
 

Aikouka

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Man, for an upscale neighborhood, if Trulia's map is correct, there sure is some crime in that area.

I'd also look into why there's an in-window AC unit in that bedroom. Makes me wonder if the HVAC just isn't that good for that room.
 

TechBoyJK

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Man, for an upscale neighborhood, if Trulia's map is correct, there sure is some crime in that area.

I'd also look into why there's an in-window AC unit in that bedroom. Makes me wonder if the HVAC just isn't that good for that room.

Crime? It's St. Louis County. I was just relieved the crimes weren't murder.

So.. good question, and this leads up to a snag we have in making an offer.

It's an old lady that's stuck in the house. She's upside down, can't afford the repairs, and needs (so they say) the exact amount they listed it for to pay off her mortgage.

The house does NOT have central AC. That's one of the things we'd have to put in.
 
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iamwiz82

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The AC does not surprise me. Looks like some additions over the years and the HVAC was never designed for it, from what i have found it was originally 2 bed 1 bath. It's an older home (I love older homes, mine was built in 1943) so it will have some flaws.

Are those HOA fees for real?
 

iamwiz82

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Crime? It's St. Louis County. I was just relieved the crimes weren't murder.

So.. good question, and this leads up to a snag we have in making an offer.

It's an old lady that's stuck in the house. She's upside down, can't afford the repairs, and needs (so they say) the exact amount they listed it for to pay off her mortgage.

The house does NOT have central AC. That's one of the things we'd have to put in.


Err... the crime list due East of this house was a homicide in June.

Found the info on the murder: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_5824262c-7f20-5f12-9af7-5024a0941f7c.html
 

TechBoyJK

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Again.. it's St. Louis. I grew up a 5 minute drive from East St. Louis. Shit happens in this area.. all the time.
 

stormkroe

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Again.. it's St. Louis. I grew up a 5 minute drive from East St. Louis. Shit happens in this area.. all the time.

I unlocked a few achievements working in those areas for fujitsu, doing co-location work in the sbc buildings. Congrats on still being alive
 

TechBoyJK

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I unlocked a few achievements working in those areas for fujitsu, doing co-location work in the sbc buildings. Congrats on still being alive

Man, Belleville's West High School, which is the closest 'not estl' highschool to estl, was a war zone. Lots of kids from ESTL got sent to West, and it was practically civil war with all the country boys. Lots of kids almost died. One 'thug' shoved a white girl that refused his advances down a flight of steps, and 3 country dudes carried the 'thug' up to the top of the stairs (3 stories) and threw him over. Broke his back, etc.
 

Aikouka

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One 'thug' shoved a white girl that refused his advances down a flight of steps, and 3 country dudes carried the 'thug' up to the top of the stairs (3 stories) and threw him over. Broke his back, etc.



As the years have gone by, I've been having more and more evidence come my way to indicate that my high school experience was like an episode of Leave it to Beaver. It was also incredibly not diverse. Wikipedia lists the town as 98.8% Caucasian according to the 2010 census.
 
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