Quick Poll: Should Trump be Impeached?

[wiyakpa]

Um... I don't think the comparisons are even close. You're trying to say all president's exaggerate and lie blatantly all the time so it's an impossible standard to meet, but that's simply not true. Heck just lower the bar to "hey don't lie about stuff you said on tape... last week" and Trump still wouldn't pass.

BTW, general incompetence is an impeachable offense. It doesn't have to be a crime.

Lying is a big deal. A CEO that lies to the board of directors gets fired. If you lie on your taxes, you go to prison. If you lie to your wife repeatedly, she may divorce you. I don't understand why people think its funny or something to overlook when the president lies about everything.

You mean like fast and furious, lies about a private email server that he sent mail to,how about al Sharpton Obama's friend who owes over 4.5 million dollars in taxes why is he not in court or prison.how about sending a plane full of cash to Iran in order to bypass the sanctions that were in place. Oh here's one you can keep your doctor if you like your doctor.And the list goes on and on.


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[Dulanic]

There are some downsides to impeachment. For one, Mike Pence might not be better, and could be worse. For another, as a political strategy, impeachment might not work as well as trying to get him voted out.

In spite of those downsides, I nevertheless agree he needs to be thrown out. We can't allow this kind of naked criminality to persist in the oval office. It sends to the wrong message to future POTUSES.

Unfortunately, his win already sent the wrong messages to future candidates. Being an asshole and a liar can even get you to the presidency.

 

[HomerJS]

You mean like fast and furious, lies about a private email server that he sent mail to,how about al Sharpton Obama's friend who owes over 4.5 million dollars in taxes why is he not in court or prison.how about sending a plane full of cash to Iran in order to bypass the sanctions that were in place. Oh here's one you can keep your doctor if you like your doctor.And the list goes on and on.


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Of everything you mentioned only one qualifies as a lie, keeping your doctor. In Obamas 8 years he probably lied a total of 12 times. Trump is up to 4800 in 19 months. That extrapolates to 18,189 if Trump survives 8 years

Really want to compare the two?????

 

[mikeymikec]

Of everything you mentioned only one qualifies as a lie, keeping your doctor. In Obamas 8 years he probably lied a total of 12 times. Trump is up to 4800 in 19 months. That extrapolates to 18,189 if Trump survives 8 years

Really want to compare the two?????

Maybe there's some kind of exchange rate going on here, like maybe 4800 Trump lies = 1 Democrat lie? I believe the subsequent paradox of Trump's speech being worth less than Obama's speech vs. Trump speech being gospel is something that his followers will be able to take in their stride.

 

[compcons]

You mean like fast and furious, lies about a private email server that he sent mail to,how about al Sharpton Obama's friend who owes over 4.5 million dollars in taxes why is he not in court or prison.how about sending a plane full of cash to Iran in order to bypass the sanctions that were in place. Oh here's one you can keep your doctor if you like your doctor.And the list goes on and on.


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You forgot Hillary's emails. And Benghazi.

 

[brycejones]

You mean like fast and furious, lies about a private email server that he sent mail to,how about al Sharpton Obama's friend who owes over 4.5 million dollars in taxes why is he not in court or prison.how about sending a plane full of cash to Iran in order to bypass the sanctions that were in place. Oh here's one you can keep your doctor if you like your doctor.And the list goes on and on.


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Why are conservatives so afraid to post under their normal accounts? You all are a bunch of pussies.

 

[Bitek]

You forgot Hillary's emails. And Benghazi.

And that time he told the chef he enjoyed the meal when it was clearly too salty.

Bastard.

 

[wiyakpa]

Why are conservatives so afraid to post under their normal accounts? You all are a bunch of pussies.

Ass hat this is my normal and only account proving once again you are wrong

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[brycejones]

Ass hat this is my normal and only account proving once again you are wrong

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Uh huh, we've seen your ilk now for 2 years. Just another alt account of a coward.

 

[Moonbeam]

The conservative brain defect is essentially hypocrisy, the capacity to ignore fact in favor the certitude of faith in a self generated altered reality. They left reality because reality for them as children was unbearable pain that caused Stockholm syndrome.

 

[cytg111]

30 votes no? That is a tad bit suspect ...

 

[mikeymikec]

Ass hat this is my normal and only account proving once again you are wrong

Seems like an odd thing to say to someone you haven't communicated with before.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I love the frothing at the mouth of you guys. In the end, if this is all Mueller's got then this is nothing. I am disappoint. Libtards will do anything and everything to target anyone associated with Trump, including social media libtards now targeting conservatives. If anything, this will make the base dig in deeper.

The base can't dig any deeper. Trump supporters, at least some of them have discarded the most fundamental Constitutional principles. One I'll cite and have posted elsewhere is the belief that Democrats are committing Treason, that is proper legal treason, against "our President".

That is an impossibility. The Constitutional definition of treason was designed so that Treason cannot be against any person and therefore the statement is more akin to treason in the old sense of being against King Trump which some may like to see but doesn't exist. There is no "for President and Country" no possible treason against one either.

Yes people do toss around Treason too often, but treasonous? Yes, that is a behavior, a mindset, and not a legal issue which might amount to sedition.

Nevertheless there is distinction between hyperbole and ignorance especially if Conservatives are involved. The poster of that statement is anything but Conservative in a traditional sense as are the "he's my President and screw the law because He says it's not illegal" group.

 

[thraashman]

Of everything you mentioned only one qualifies as a lie, keeping your doctor. In Obamas 8 years he probably lied a total of 12 times. Trump is up to 4800 in 19 months. That extrapolates to 18,189 if Trump survives 8 years

Really want to compare the two?????

Actually even that doesn't really qualify as a lie. The law was written in such a way as to allow that, unfortunately between Republicans undermining the law and some short sightedness in the writing of it, that didn't work out. But it was absolutely created to allow it. At worst it's a broken promise. A lie requires one to know what they're saying is false when they say it.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Rudy has predicted a revolt. All I can say that if Rudy has the balls then let him bring it.

I think that if Rudy gets his revolt he will be surprised by how many counter-revolters they will encounter. Have they not noticed that every time Trump supporters get together to protest something the counter-protests are much, much larger? Just look at what happened when the Very Fine People that United the Right marched in DC last week. By all accounts the counter protesters outnumbered them by something like 300:1.

BTW if by "conservative Republican" = Mueller, then I'm a straight up neocon. Totally laughable, just like the people who think W was a true "conservative". They are all bed with the banking industry and Wall St and go to the highest bidder (as W's successor Obama did). Hence why they all hate Trump.

I hate to interrupt your dick measuring contest, but I have to ask, do you really believe that Trump is not in bed with the banking industry and Wall St? He has made no secret of the fact that to him being rich and financially successful is the most important thing for him personally. He is literally the candidate of Wall St. He is literally a bankrupt billionaire that has a gold shitter.

 

[Sunburn74]

You mean like fast and furious, lies about a private email server that he sent mail to,how about al Sharpton Obama's friend who owes over 4.5 million dollars in taxes why is he not in court or prison.how about sending a plane full of cash to Iran in order to bypass the sanctions that were in place. Oh here's one you can keep your doctor if you like your doctor.And the list goes on and on.

-Don't talk to me about email servers. Most people complaining about email servers don't even know what an email server even is.
-What does Obama have to do with Sharpton's taxes? Taxes are complicated. They can be calculated one way and then re-calculated another way and then you owe millions. Plus repayment of taxes also can be complicated; sometimes you pay a lump sum, sometimes it's a repayment plan with interest. Obama had a lot of celebrity friends. He's not personally responsible for investigating all of their tax situations. In fact, this is the first I've ever even heard about Al-Sharpton's taxes
-You can write your congressman about the cash to Iran or the treasury dept if you're that concerned. However, as far as we can tell, its money we legally owed them that we paid back.
-The doctor thing, I'm not sure was a lie. It was in the early days of trying to pitch obamacare and for the majority of people they did keep their doctor, though some were forced to switch. It was more an exaggeration or overstatement than it was a lie. If you tell your kids they are very smart kids, are you lying to them (clearly if you put your kids on a gaussian curve looking at all kids in the world, most US kids would be average if you look at the current data). Or if you tell your wife she's beautiful? Or if comcast tells you that you will have reliable service and you'll be happy with it are they lying because a few times a year the cable goes out and you are unhappy (though many people are clearly very happy with their service)?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Out of curiosity, has taj defended Nazis? Both @SP33Demon and @Incorruptible do (while labelling others as fascists), I just wondered how alike they are.

I'd say no, but then I think that AntiFA are fascists.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/antifa-members-beat-leftist-protester-holding-american-flag/

"Paul Welch, who describes himself as a “slightly progressive leftist,” was protesting the right-wing group Patriot Prayer’s August 4 rally in Portland, Ore. As he carried his American flag alongside other counterprotesters, several black-clad Antifa members carrying various weapons demanded he hand over the flag, calling it a “fascist symbol.” A viral video captured Welch clinging to his flag as several masked men in makeshift armor try to wrest it from his hands. One of them can be seen hitting him repeatedly and then clubbing him on the back of his head, which causes him to collapse instantly and lie curled up on the ground in his own blood.

“I remember thinking there was a very good chance that I could be beaten to death,” Welch told the Oregonian. A three-inch slash on his head required four staples, and he missed two days of work to heal from the concussion he suffered."

 

[umbrella39]

Ass hat this is my normal and only account proving once again you are wrong

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Awe.... yet another gimp limps in with a sock puppet to trot out all the inane and debunked canards and logical fallacies shot down ad nauseum posted from their other account/s. The truth is not your friend nor is any human being. That's the life of a loser...

 

[OWR88]

Impeach the fake blonde and deport the deplorable.

 

[umbrella39]

30 votes no? That is a tad bit suspect ...

Not really. Quite a few troll farm basement denizens have accounts here...

 

[Moonbeam]

I'd say no, but then I think that AntiFA are fascists.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/antifa-members-beat-leftist-protester-holding-american-flag/

"Paul Welch, who describes himself as a “slightly progressive leftist,” was protesting the right-wing group Patriot Prayer’s August 4 rally in Portland, Ore. As he carried his American flag alongside other counterprotesters, several black-clad Antifa members carrying various weapons demanded he hand over the flag, calling it a “fascist symbol.” A viral video captured Welch clinging to his flag as several masked men in makeshift armor try to wrest it from his hands. One of them can be seen hitting him repeatedly and then clubbing him on the back of his head, which causes him to collapse instantly and lie curled up on the ground in his own blood.

“I remember thinking there was a very good chance that I could be beaten to death,” Welch told the Oregonian. A three-inch slash on his head required four staples, and he missed two days of work to heal from the concussion he suffered."

Try to understand what happens when the mentally ill beaten who have taken the side of beaters meet the mentally ill beaten who have taken the side of victims. Beatings are the result of suppressed hate and being beaten is what creates it. This is a mechanical reaction that is caused by being asleep, life among zombies. To be asleep is to be subject to these things. The other we point at is you and me. It is the result of attachment to sacred cows as a source of self respect when the real thing has been kicked out of you. Let go and die to it. You will find the sacred in the last place you would ever suspect.

 

[SP33Demon]

The base can't dig any deeper. Trump supporters, at least some of them have discarded the most fundamental Constitutional principles. One I'll cite and have posted elsewhere is the belief that Democrats are committing Treason, that is proper legal treason, against "our President".

That is an impossibility. The Constitutional definition of treason was designed so that Treason cannot be against any person and therefore the statement is more akin to treason in the old sense of being against King Trump which some may like to see but doesn't exist. There is no "for President and Country" no possible treason against one either.

Yes people do toss around Treason too often, but treasonous? Yes, that is a behavior, a mindset, and not a legal issue which might amount to sedition.

Nevertheless there is distinction between hyperbole and ignorance especially if Conservatives are involved. The poster of that statement is anything but Conservative in a traditional sense as are the "he's my President and screw the law because He says it's not illegal" group.

Nobody cares about Treason or semantics. We all know that Dems will do anything and everything to retaliate against Trump and the people who voted for him. The only thing it's doing is exposing Leftists for their hypocrisy (e.g. blatant random censorship and shadowbanning of conservative voices on social media). This kicking and screaming won't stop until 2020 and they're desperate to do anything to stop Trump and his appointing of conservative circuit court judges and obama policy eradication.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Try to understand what happens when the mentally ill beaten who have taken the side of beaters meet the mentally ill beaten who have taken the side of victims. Beatings are the result of suppressed hate and being beaten is what creates it. This is a mechanical reaction that is caused by being asleep, life among zombies. To be asleep is to be subject to these things. The other we point at is you and me. It is the result of attachment to sacred cows as a source of self respect when the real thing has been kicked out of you. Let go and die to it. You will find the sacred in the last place you would ever suspect.

I was just addressing the fact that AntiFA pretend not to be fascists, but while wearing masks, gloves and armor pick out and severely beat and bloody someone who is legally protesting alongside them.

Who are the fascists? AntiFA

 

[SP33Demon]

Try to understand what happens when the mentally ill beaten who have taken the side of beaters meet the mentally ill beaten who have taken the side of victims. Beatings are the result of suppressed hate and being beaten is what creates it. This is a mechanical reaction that is caused by being asleep, life among zombies. To be asleep is to be subject to these things. The other we point at is you and me. It is the result of attachment to sacred cows as a source of self respect when the real thing has been kicked out of you. Let go and die to it. You will find the sacred in the last place you would ever suspect.

You described the leftist brainwashed-by-mainstream-media lemmings perfectly. They are zombies who will believe anything they see on TV and just regurgitate it. They are asleep at the wheel and willing to die for a cause that media tells them to. Self respect happens when you learn to think for yourself.

 

[snoopy7548]

I was just addressing the fact that AntiFA pretend not to be fascists, but while wearing masks, gloves and armor pick out and severely beat and bloody someone who is legally protesting alongside them.

Who are the fascists? AntiFA

The Nazis did that too in Charlottesville. Heck, one of them even killed an innocent woman.