Quick Sync is not available for P67 motherboards

[mclaren777]

Edit: the mystery is partially solved--apparently you need an H67 motherboard to make use of Quick Sync at launch.


Video editing is one of the primary reasons why I'll be buying a 2600K but I'm really concerned by what I've been hearing about Quick Sync support, particularly what Anand said on this page...

There's just one hangup to all of this Quick Sync greatness: it only works if the processor's GPU is enabled. In other words, on a desktop with a single monitor connected to a discrete GPU, you can't use Quick Sync...Intel indicated that we may see some switchable solutions in the coming months on the desktop, but until then you either have to use the integrated GPU alone or run a multimonitor setup with one monitor connected to Intel's GPU in order to use Quick Sync.

It's that last part I don't understand. How exactly are we supposed to connect a monitor to Intel's integrated GPU? I haven't seen any LGA 1155 motherboards with connectivity for DVI/HDMI so I can't make sense of this.

Any ideas?

 

[Attic]

Video editing is one of the primary reasons why I'll be buying a 2600K but I'm really concerned by what I've been hearing about Quick Sync support, particularly what Anand said on this page...



It's that last part I don't understand. How exactly are we supposed to connect a monitor to Intel's integrated GPU? I haven't seen any LGA 1155 motherboards with connectivity for DVI/HDMI so I can't make sense of this.

Any ideas?

I'd like more clarification on this as well. It sounds like P67 boards won't be able to use it at all becuase they relie soley on discreet graphics.

 

[mclaren777]

What a stupid decision for Intel to make. :'(

Also note that the P67 does not support integrated display outputs, so Sandy Bridge's integrated processor graphics is not available with the P67. - Source

 

[mnewsham]

What a stupid decision for Intel to make. :'(

you have to wait for z67 boards to come out later this year, sorry.

 

[mclaren777]

Is there any likelihood that Quick Sync could be unlocked on a P67 board with a firmware/BIOS update or possibly even a community-made hack?

I'm baffled by Intel's decision to limit such a great asset. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[Attic]

Its just an odd move by intel. At laucnh it leaves enthusiasts high and dry on the option to use quicksync,... the type of user who would be a target for it's capabilities.

The enthusiast who wants to use quicksync would need to forego discreet graphics and overclocking to get quicksync, or if they wanted discreet graphics and quicksync they would have to forego overclocking as well as hook up a second monitor (read: ???).

Interested to see the communities take on this design decision by intel. It looks very unfriendly, but perhaps there are some fundabmental reasons for this design.

Z67 appears to take on a market segment that has been artificial created by Intel due some baffling restrictions placed on the H67 and P67.

 

[mclaren777]

This is incredibly maddening! I really hope Anand brings this up with Intel on Wednesday. I think the community deserves an honest answer.

The Quick Sync engine within the new Sandy Bridge processors offers exceptional encoding performance in terms of speed and quality. In our tests, enabling Quick Sync within MediaEspresso resulted in performance increases of 3.7x to 4.1x, smoking everything else we tested. It's a shame that Quick Sync can't be used when a discrete GPU is installed in a system with a single monitor though. Many of the users who build high-end systems with media encoding in mind aren't going to want to settle for integrated graphics, and may not run dual monitors. And since Windows 7 allows for multiple GPU types to be installed in a system, and Intel will allow Quick Sync to function in notebooks/laptops equipped with discrete GPUs with switchable graphics, we hope they figure out a way to enable it on the desktop as well. - Source

 

[shabby]

Damn what a let down, wtf is intel thinking.

 

[Tsavo]

This is really strange. Intel's marketing department are going nuts with the mix-n-match let's throw darts at feature sets decision making that went into this product.

- No QuickSync with a discrete board.
- No Vt-d with a K series.
- No USB 3.0.
- Two native SATA 3.0 ports.

Also...is it true the socket 2011 won't have an integrated GPU? That would mean their high end consumer parts are much slower at transcoding than their pedestrian parts.

Strange bunch of folks over at Intel.

 

[mclaren777]

I just wonder when we'll hear more about the Z68. I really hope we get a projected release date this week at CES because my half-purchased build might be on ice until it eventually launches.

 

[Tsavo]

I just wonder when we'll hear more about the Z68. I really hope we get a projected release date this week at CES because my half-purchased build might be on ice until it eventually launches.

That's another thing. Those morans should have made that product available at launch along with all the others.

SSD Caching sounds like it might be pretty cool.

 

[edplayer]

how many people in this thread have actually read Anand's review? Its not a 1000 page novel people...

 

[Habeed]

So if there's no quick sync...what DOES the GPU on a 2600K do for you if you are running on a P67 board?

Is it just a piece of cold, useless silicon that never even powers up?

 

[IanWorthington]

So if there's no quick sync...what DOES the GPU on a 2600K do for you if you are running on a P67 board?

Is it just a piece of cold, useless silicon that never even powers up?

Takes up die that could be used for something more useful?

And, given the thought that went into this, I wouldn't be willing to bet it stays cold either.

 

[mclaren777]

how many people in this thread have actually read Anand's review? Its not a 1000 page novel people...

I read the whole thing. Are you suggesting that I might have overlooked/misunderstood something?

 

[Avalon]

This and the lack of overclocking on non K parts has me thoroughly disappointed. Was looking forward to Sandy Bridge until this. Now I think I'll just wait until Bulldozer.

 

[Bearach]

The only thing I really liked about Sandy was the Quick Sync really, although the CPU is a step up, it's not a huge step.

Hope it's just a misunderstanding and the feature can be used with a discrete card and on P67 boards.

It wouldn't be right to inadvertently stop use of discrete cards to get all the features of the CPU.

 

[Anomaly1964]

As a NEWB still, I am even more confused. Do you all you guys who told me to WAIT for SB to build a STRONG gaming rig still stand by your advice?

 

[flexcore]

This could be an opportunity for Lucid's new Virtu solution. Sounds like a winner if i'm understanding correctly.

http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=9572

How long till either Intel has something similar or buys Lucid?

 

[Majic 7]

According to Drwho? it can be implemented by NVidia or AMD. Everything is ready on the chip, its up to them to implement it. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4691226&postcount=402 He can be pretty cryptic at times.

 

[Rifter]

As a NEWB still, I am even more confused. Do you all you guys who told me to WAIT for SB to build a STRONG gaming rig still stand by your advice?

Well since if you get a K series and overclock it high you will have the fastest CPU available till 2011 hits so yeah its a good idea still. Unless you spend more time encoding video than gaming this isnt even going to matter to you.

 

[Anomaly1964]

Well since if you get a K series and overclock it high you will have the fastest CPU available till 2011 hits so yeah its a good idea still. Unless you spend more time encoding video than gaming this isnt even going to matter to you.

Ah cool...whew...thanks!

 

[flexcore]

If Intel has it built in, why are they leaving it up to AMD/Nvidia to implement? If Lucid can do it I'm sure intel can.

 

[Majic 7]

If Intel has it built in, why are they leaving it up to AMD/Nvidia to implement? If Lucid can do it I'm sure intel can.

I would think it has to be implemented through their drivers so it can work through the GPU. Wouldn't hold my breath for it, though.

 

[mclaren777]

This could be an opportunity for Lucid's new Virtu solution. Sounds like a winner if i'm understanding correctly.

http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=9572

That sounds interesting but we would still be limited to using H67 motherboards.

The only system requirement is to always connect the display screen directly to the motherboard’s Sandy Bridge display output (DVI, HDMI, etc).