Quiet Lanboy...Completely Ducted.

Bluefront

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I put up several photos of my newest setup....A Lanboy with a P4 2.66, installed with complete ducting for everything. I'm using an Aopen board running the SilentTec cooling utility. This setup is capable of running with very low airflow, hence is very quiet. Here's a link to the whole story...

Ducted Lanboy
 

Novaric

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that is insane. looks pretty good, but i'm not sure if the gain in temps is worth all that custom effort...of course, i guess its not effort if its a hobby ! have you finalized any temps yet?
 

huesmann

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I don't understand how you get cool air to the HSF? Or is the duct drawing the cool air in and not out?
 

beatle

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I'm guessing it draws air out, especially since that looks like an Alpha heatsink.
 

SWScorch

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Judging from the pics, it looks like the rear fan is blowing air over the Alpha.
 

amcdonald

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the rear extension is a both an exhaust and an intake. You can see from the pics that the 'lower' part of it is for intake directly into the alpha, and the top portion is exhaust from the psu.
Bluefront, have you experimented with setting the case on its side to possibly improve airflow to the drives? I'm not sure how that would affect your rear exhaust though. Also, have you used smoke or something to trace the rear intake/exhaust to see if there's any mixing going on? What really helps me is a few blue CCFLS and and a lot of incense...
I'm impressed... it looks like you had a lot of fun with this one
 

huesmann

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Originally posted by: amcdonald
the rear extension is a both an exhaust and an intake. You can see from the pics that the 'lower' part of it is for intake directly into the alpha, and the top portion is exhaust from the psu.
Still doesn't make sense. How can the same tube be used simultaneously for intake and exhaust?
 

Bluefront

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amcdonald figured it out.....the 92mm fan is blowing in(when it's running). The PSU fan is blowing out. It just uses one housing as the picts show. After the test period, I'll try to reconstruct this duct so the filter is easily exchanged. Right now the filter is hot-glued to the duct. It should last quite a while however, and it's cleanable.

Look....there's a reason not very obvious, why the CPU runs so cool... it's in these pictures.

The duct is solid aluminum and it's a snug fit on the Alpha end. Heat from the Alpha is transferred into the aluminum of the duct by conduction....and by convection also. If you feel the duct on the Alpha end, it gets warm. This actually makes the duct itself, an extension of the Alpha heatsink. Now look at the power supply in the pictures...it has a 92mm fan drawing air over the hot end of the duct. Also when the duct fan is not running, this same fan is sucking air through the Alpha duct. Remember...the Alpha duct with it's filter is the only way air enters the case. The hard drive fan does the same thing...blows out and sucks it's air through the Alpha duct. Another thing, the air entering the duct and hitting the Alpha is ambient temperature. This computer can be run for hours with normal usage, without the duct fan even running. The CPU never exceeds 36c.

It's quiet. The foam in the pictures is CompUSA acoustic foam. $20 gets you enough to completely line a Lanboy. It's 4mm thick with a sticky backing. Works pretty well and applys easily.

As far as airflow is concerned there is no mixing of exhaust and intake air. It's hard to explain the SilentTec cooling utility.....it controls the duct fan and the hard drive fan. You can adjust it many ways. I'm still trying to get the whole thing down right. I do know those two fans may have to be changed. They wouldn't run much below 1700rpm......but the SilentTec could make them run even slower and quieter.

If anyone wants more explanations or more pictures I'm willing help out anybody trying to duplicate this setup. It works....
 

Blooz1

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So what is this "SilentTec" program? Is it something proprietary? I tried to find info with no success....

My big question is: Why all this work on a Lanboy? Just seems like there's loads of other cases this would be more suitable for such extreme cooling mods...
 

jarsoffart

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Originally posted by: Blooz1
So what is this "SilentTec" program? Is it something proprietary? I tried to find info with no success....

It is a utility that comes with AOpen boards.
 

Bluefront

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SilentTek is a utility that comes with newer Aopen boards. It works perfect for this setup which was designed first to be quiet, to run clean and to be cool. And it's hard to combine the three.

That's where the Lanboy fits in. I needed a large flat area in the rear for the intake duct, the case had to be tight, I wanted a PSU that had a fan on the bottom near the Alpha duct setup. Lanboy fits the bill. Plus it has a door in front for further quieting and it was cheap.....
 

0roo0roo

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not bad.


the easiest method is to just cut a 92-120mm hole on the side of the case right above the cpu. then have that feed cold air to the area directly. probably works about the same.
 

Bluefront

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Heh...it is easy to cool a cpu. Just blast a big fan right on it, like 0roo0roo says. However, if you want the computer to run quietly, you have to do things differently. That's why this ducted Lanboy was built.

If you look at the setup, it was also constructed on the cheap. No fancy fans, no expensive PSUs, no water cooling stuff. Anybody could do it.....hell it was fun.
 

amcdonald

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Don't forget to mention that the intake is isolated through a heavy-duty filter... thats as close to dust-free as you can get... dust-free, quiet, is a difficult goal to attain cheaply.
 

Bluefront

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So, ah, amcdonald......you gonna try a setup like this? Honestly, I never thought a P4 2.66 would run this cool and quiet. I keep hearing about overheating, even using many powerful, noisy fans. IMHO...this is the way to go.
 

0roo0roo

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have you thought of putting two fans in there in series? fans suck at fighting back pressure, with that filter and the rest of the tubing etc it would seem like the fan is fighting quite a bit.
 

Bluefront

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Humm...I'm not really sure what you mean. The PSU fan is blowing out, as is the front case fan. They are both drawing(sucking) air through the Alpha duct. When the Alpha duct fan is running, it is blowing in, so none of the fans are actually "fighting" against each other.
 

jarsoffart

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How did you get the duct to be touching the Alpha PAL8045? Is that square part touching the Alpha part of the duct or did you add it to the duct? If I were go to Home Depot, what would I look for to find that elbow duct joint? Would it be possible to attain conduction for a Thermalright SLK-800? I imagine if I got the duct to touch it, it would only be the edges of the fins, not nearly as much as you have with the square surrounding the Alpha PAL8045.
 

Bluefront

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The aluminum duct was a SmartChoice Wall Offset Elbow.....Best Buy about $6. It's a drier vent part. The part you see touching the Alpha was round to begin with. I just bent it into a square by hand...easy. It just happened to be a perfect fit on the Alpha. Since it's soft aluminum, it can be bent easily into many shapes.

I suppose you could modify the whole thing with some aluminum shims. I use aluminum roof flashing squares for this purpose. You can get small packages of these at Home Depot. The duct and the flashing can be trimmed with a sissors.

On the case end of the duct, most of the photos show an 80mm fan with a rubber connector. I'm actually using a 92mm fan at that point. If you cut the four mount corners off a 92mm fan, it's a perfect fit into the duct. You then can attach the fan/duct to the case with four screws. You will have to drill new holes for this. I used one of the old holes and one new hole.
 

Bluefront

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FWIW....I updated the first link with my final temp readings. Using cpuburn (100% cpu usage) for 1/2 hour, the max cpu temp using speedfan, was 45c. This seems pretty good to me, since the duct fan speed was only about 2500rpm. And, I normally see temps posted here much higher for that cpu (P4 2.66).

Interestingly...I have a DigitalDoc5 sensor located in the center of the cpu, right at the base of the pins. This sensor never rose over 35.5c.....
 
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