qx9650 OC @ 6.0ghz!!!

[Tempered81]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...owthread.php?p=2694172

okay, now it's just getting ridiculous.

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...owthread.php?p=2694172

okay, now it's just getting ridiculous.

I saw the title and said to myself...

okay, now it's just getting ridiculous.

 

[Elfear]

That is awesome. These new 45nm chips seem to overclock extremely well.

 

[Tempered81]

agreed. but at least these extreme dudes (kinda reminds me of harold and kumar goto whitecastle and the exteme guys in that store) are showing us what settings and specifications are required for certain speeds out of certain cpus. Not like plenty of ATOT guys dont already know this info, but it is helpful to see what direction your chip will go on a modest oc. Most people here will do Air or water, but seeing what ln2 phase and d-ice do to 45nm parts is a good reference. especially seeing their system components & requirements. 2.05 vcore!?!? heheh. I'm looking for 9x500 out of a an e8400 on a TRU-120 air cooling. I think that will be enough to shut it all up in a case, and call it a day. Rather have stablility at 4.5 ghz than to run once at 6ghz and do some benches.

 

[Riverhound777]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
agreed. but at least these extreme dudes (kinda reminds me of harold and kumar goto whitecastle and the exteme guys in that store) are showing us what settings and specifications are required for certain speeds out of certain cpus. Not like plenty of ATOT guys dont already know this info, but it is helpful to see what direction your chip will go on a modest oc. Most people here will do Air or water, but seeing what ln2 phase and d-ice do to 45nm parts is a good reference. especially seeing their system components & requirements. 2.05 vcore!?!? heheh. I'm looking for 9x500 out of a an e8400 on a TRU-120 air cooling. I think that will be enough to shut it all up in a case, and call it a day. Rather have stablility at 4.5 ghz than to run once at 6ghz and do some benches.

4.5? shoot, i'll be happy at 4.0 on my E8400 and Tuniq with nice temps, being rock-solid, and quiet.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
but seeing what ln2 phase and d-ice do to 45nm parts is a good reference. especially seeing their system components & requirements. 2.05 vcore!?!? heheh. I'm looking for 9x500 out of a an e8400 on a TRU-120 air cooling. I think that will be enough to shut it all up in a case, and call it a day. Rather have stablility at 4.5 ghz than to run once at 6ghz and do some benches.

.... how is showing what ln and dice does any help? these are absoulte suicide runs. There is no cooling system even out there that can keep up with ln2 or dice for long periods of time.

also 2.0v your kidding me. There isnt a chip out there that could handle this kind of voltage for long periods of time.

Also if yoxxy cant do 500fsbx9 on a cherry picked ES how the hell do you expect to do that. And he's on a Custom Phase unit.



Dude.... you havent even stepped over to the 400fsb strap and you think you can skip over to the 500fsb on the new wolfdales?

im sorry jared. i told you about your oc predictions on the other page. These are XS suicide runs which can never be talken for anything more then a epenis shot. NO ONE in there right sane of mind will push a chip at those voltages. And no one on air would even dream about 500fsb on air for 24/7 operation.

Even when i get my cherry picked ES QX9650 from XS, theres no way in hell i would even push that chip higher then 1.50vcore for long periods of time on my chobit cooling system.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: jaredpace
but seeing what ln2 phase and d-ice do to 45nm parts is a good reference. especially seeing their system components & requirements. 2.05 vcore!?!? heheh. I'm looking for 9x500 out of a an e8400 on a TRU-120 air cooling. I think that will be enough to shut it all up in a case, and call it a day. Rather have stablility at 4.5 ghz than to run once at 6ghz and do some benches.

.... how is showing what ln and dice does any help? these are absoulte suicide runs. There is no cooling system even out there that can keep up with ln2 or dice for long periods of time.

also 2.0v your kidding me. There isnt a chip out there that could handle this kind of voltage for long periods of time.

Also if yoxxy cant do 500fsbx9 on a cherry picked ES how the hell do you expect to do that. And he's on a Custom Phase unit.



Dude.... you havent even stepped over to the 400fsb strap and you think you can skip over to the 500fsb on the new wolfdales?

I didn't say that these are "long periods of time" overclocks

do i think i can run 500 fsb on wolfdale? Yes.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: jaredpace


do i think i can run 500 fsb on wolfdale? Yes.

Not on your life, unless your cooling system is up at par with miine or you were phasing.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=172946

Is an example of 1 part in my chobit cooling system.


Your not there with the xtreme guys in OCing. Unless you tried an Extreme OC, you'll quickly see how difficult it is to keep and hold. This is what im trying to tell/teach you. Your OC predictions should always be almost first hand knowledge . Not second hand off a pro OCer @ XS.

 

[Jevon]

Something to keep in mind guys is that most of these early OC's we're seeing are from Engineering Sample chips, which are basically cherry picked as best of the best. So far it looks like there are retail chips that aren't stable at 4Ghz (3.6 and 3.8)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=172882

Will be interesting to follow this as more and more chips get out there!

 

[Tempered81]

well i will be sure to let you know aigomorla.

 

[The-Noid]

500 is possible just needs to be at a low multiplier.

Seems to be FSB wall is a bit lower on the 45nm part and cpupll voltage needs to be a bit lower as well.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Jevon
Something to keep in mind guys is that most of these early OC's we're seeing are from Engineering Sample chips, which are basically cherry picked as best of the best. So far it looks like there are retail chips that aren't stable at 4Ghz (3.6 and 3.8)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=172882

Will be interesting to follow this as more and more chips get out there!

which is why im not even going to comment on his wolfdale post.

At least this is a yorkie.. something i have some knowlege in. Given true my yorkie chip wont get here for another month and half, [stuck in customs] But... his predictions are a bit on the dreamy side.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Yoxxy
500 is possible just needs to be at a low multiplier.

Seems to be FSB wall is a bit lower on the 45nm part and cpupll voltage needs to be a bit lower as well.

with a 9x multi???? sure im sure he can do 500fsb x (2-7.5) maybe.. but 9x??

Yoxxy tell him what your vapoli is tuned at. If he grabs one of those, i'll be quiet about this oc predictions.

 

[Tempered81]

aigomorla, i would appreciate you not calling a 4.5ghz prediction "dreamy" I feel it is obtainable seeing as people have done 4.7-4.9 on air cooling.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Yoxxy
500 is possible just needs to be at a low multiplier.

Seems to be FSB wall is a bit lower on the 45nm part and cpupll voltage needs to be a bit lower as well.

with a 9x multi???? sure im sure he can do 500fsb x (2-7.5) maybe.. but 9x??

Yoxxy tell him what your vapoli is tuned at. If he grabs one of those, i'll be quiet about this oc predictions.

so there you have it from an expert that 500 is possible.

 

[The-Noid]

oh.

There is absolutely no chance of hitting 4.5 ghz stable on air.

Max is going to be around 4.1 to 4.2 and even then you are talking about ideal conditions and an open bench.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
aigomorla, i would appreciate you not calling a 4.5ghz prediction "dreamy" I feel it is obtainable seeing as people have done 4.7-4.9 on air cooling.

Bah.... i give up. I'll let you find out the hardway.

Dont try to get too close to the sun or like icarus, or you'll melt your wings like he did. Which means you'll fry and kill your chip.

 

[Tempered81]

ill take 4.2. 900x5 is my goal.

 

[The-Noid]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
ill take 4.2. 900x5 is my goal.

Lofty goal really.

 

[Tempered81]

i just read at legion hardwares 8400 review that 3.6 is obtainable "and some will go as high as 4.0 or beyond on air"

so your 4.1, 4.2 is going to be considered a "nice overclock" for those of us here with air cooling. although i don't doubt we are going to see plenty of 4.5 ghz wolfdales.

 

[The-Noid]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
i just read at legion hardwares 8400 review that 3.6 is obtainable "and some will go as high as 4.0 or beyond on air"

so your 4.1, 4.2 is going to be considered a "nice overclock" for those of us here with air cooling. although i don't doubt we are going to see plenty of 4.5 ghz wolfdales.

There are a lot of people that run benchmarks. You are going to have them stable to a high level. Try running a game for an hour or running prime.

You are confusing two different animals.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Jevon
Something to keep in mind guys is that most of these early OC's we're seeing are from Engineering Sample chips, which are basically cherry picked as best of the best. So far it looks like there are retail chips that aren't stable at 4Ghz (3.6 and 3.8)

Sounds about right. Wasn't that what happened when the C2D chips first came out? Bunch of web reviews hit at the same time with easy 3.6GHz overclocks using samples provided by Intel. Then, people started buying retail chips...

Originally posted by: jaredpace
people have done 4.7-4.9 on air cooling.

What kind of air cooling? Thermalright Extreme coolers with 150CFM pumped through them?

Originally posted by: jaredpace
so there you have it from an expert that 500 is possible.

Possible at a lower multiplier, as the same expert said. Sounds as if you are wanting 500MHz at a higher multiplier.

Good luck on that, and make sure you run Orthos overnight. That is, unless the sole purpose of your system is to run Super PI and post on forums.

 

[JAG87]

honestly, just read the article

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...el/showdoc.aspx?i=3184

45nm stops at 4 ghz for now. anything above is called forced response, and it generally craps out during load, even if it appears stable. just run prime for 1h, and you will see melt down temperatures > blue screen > reboot.

Kris says 4.25 ghz is the limit, but he has a good chip that is stable at 4.2 ghz with only 1.398v. Believe me, not all 9650s are like his, so start thinking more in the range of 450x9 or 460x9 as your 24/7 stable overclock on either wolfdale or yorkfield. you can also do 500x8 (on wolfdale), but your board better be up to the task. 500x9? LOL, not a chance.

 

[djnsmith7]

All this talk about blasting these chips into oblivion...lol...Fun stuff reading all of these back & forth messages...A few words for those of you trying to help this gentleman preserve his chip...You can lead a horse to water...Enuf said...

Hell, I'll be happy as can be if I can get both of my 8400's to run stable 24/7 at 3.5Ghz...I can't imagine trying to push them above 4Ghz for long term...

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: djnsmith7
Hell, I'll be happy as can be if I can get both of my 8400's to run stable 24/7 at 3.5Ghz...

I'll be happy at 3.2GHz passively cooled.

Oh wait, I already am! :shocked: