Originally posted by: nerp
I see a lot of saturns burning oil and leaving trails of smoke around town. Sup with that, eh?
Older ones had issues with leaking headgaskets, iirc. Wasn't just a Saturn issue though.
Originally posted by: nerp
I see a lot of saturns burning oil and leaving trails of smoke around town. Sup with that, eh?
Originally posted by: dman
Older ones had issues with leaking headgaskets, iirc.
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: dman
Older ones had issues with leaking headgaskets, iirc.
that is how my 1997 Saturn SC-1 with 192,000 miles died, it blew a headgasket
Originally posted by: pockets83
yea, they kinda live in europe dont they?
Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: dman
Older ones had issues with leaking headgaskets, iirc.
that is how my 1997 Saturn SC-1 with 192,000 miles died, it blew a headgasket
Head gasket was a different problem.
The engine just naturally consumed oil from the seals and design. Not bad though, my SL2 eats a quart every month or 2, and she still gets ~35 mpg. Paid $1100 for it and she already earned her cost in gas saved from driving my PT every day.
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
IIRC, Saturn never once turned a profit.
Pish, I know of no catalytic converter problems with the S-series cars. Perhaps the cat fails when I cross 300k, yep shame on saturn for making that unreliable a car.Originally posted by: krylon
Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: dman
Older ones had issues with leaking headgaskets, iirc.
that is how my 1997 Saturn SC-1 with 192,000 miles died, it blew a headgasket
Head gasket was a different problem.
The engine just naturally consumed oil from the seals and design. Not bad though, my SL2 eats a quart every month or 2, and she still gets ~35 mpg. Paid $1100 for it and she already earned her cost in gas saved from driving my PT every day.
No car should chew oil like that. If Saturn intentionally designed an engine that consumes oil at that rate, which eventually fouls the catalytic converter, they deserve to burn.
Originally posted by: Freejack2
My family was a Honda family for a long time but then Saturn came along and they won me over. Had a 95 SL1, 98 SC2, and the last was an 01 SL2. In 2001 I took a Honda Civic for a test drive and the Saturn SL2. The Saturn was equal or better in everything. That DOHC engine was only 124hp but that thing had torque. I drove the 01 SL2 for almost 8 years until I got into an accident in an ice storm in January.
Mind you once the car got over about 130,000 miles it started to have problems and having to replace the transmission didn't leave me thrilled. On the other hand I had an 89 civic and that thing was horrible. Every time I turned around it needed to be repaired.
Still even after the problems I had with it I would have gone back to Saturn and bought another Saturn. Only one problem, there was no fucking Saturn anymore. It was now rebadged Opels. No independent company with cars made in Spring Hill, TN. It was just a GM division selling their rebadged european cars. No thank you.
I don't think GM realized that Saturns success was because people saw it as a company mostly independent from GM. A company that made cars that were as reliable as a Honda or a Toyota and didn't have the reliability stigmatism that GM made cars had. In short GM killed Saturn years ago.
Originally posted by: FetusCakeMix
199,254 on my SL2, and still running strong.
*knocks on every piece of wood in the room*
Originally posted by: krylon
Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: dman
Older ones had issues with leaking headgaskets, iirc.
that is how my 1997 Saturn SC-1 with 192,000 miles died, it blew a headgasket
Head gasket was a different problem.
The engine just naturally consumed oil from the seals and design. Not bad though, my SL2 eats a quart every month or 2, and she still gets ~35 mpg. Paid $1100 for it and she already earned her cost in gas saved from driving my PT every day.
No car should chew oil like that. If Saturn intentionally designed an engine that consumes oil at that rate, which eventually fouls the catalytic converter, they deserve to burn.
Originally posted by: waffleironhead
my sc2 has 180k miles on it and is still going strong. It has been by far the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. Its too bad they went away from the independent designs and started making gm clones. That is what killed them imo.
[/quote]Originally posted by: krylon
Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: dman
Older ones had issues with leaking headgaskets, iirc.
that is how my 1997 Saturn SC-1 with 192,000 miles died, it blew a headgasket
Head gasket was a different problem.
The engine just naturally consumed oil from the seals and design. Not bad though, my SL2 eats a quart every month or 2, and she still gets ~35 mpg. Paid $1100 for it and she already earned her cost in gas saved from driving my PT every day.
No car should chew oil like that. If Saturn intentionally designed an engine that consumes oil at that rate, which eventually fouls the catalytic converter, they deserve to burn.
Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: FetusCakeMix
199,254 on my SL2, and still running strong.
*knocks on every piece of wood in the room*
Let's hope you're not at a sausage fest.
Originally posted by: Fritzo
They made mechanically good cars, but their styling was terrible until the last few years. The Sky is on my "want to own someday" list
On a side note, that commercial they were running where that guy said "We make cars people want to buy!" made the company sound like a whiny loser. If you are---why aren't people buying them?
Originally posted by: KevinH
Originally posted by: waffleironhead
my sc2 has 180k miles on it and is still going strong. It has been by far the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. Its too bad they went away from the independent designs and started making gm clones. That is what killed them imo.
They weren't selling squat with their own designs either.