Maybe you did not notice the 7970 and R280X results? Its much lower on HWC for what reason? Mayhaps its a system setup, drivers.. or possibly.. ingame settings?
But it is, lets just take a look at Hardwarecanucks vs Anandtech.
Even while hardwarecanucks is still not perfect. It already shows the 290X losing 10-15% performance.
But it is, lets just take a look at Hardwarecanucks vs Anandtech.
Even while hardwarecanucks is still not perfect. It already shows the 290X losing 10-15% performance.
Maybe you did not notice the 7970 and R280X results? Its much lower on HWC for what reason? Mayhaps its a system setup, drivers.. or possibly.. ingame settings?
5 months?
Probably the same ones that put warranty void if removed stickers on their cooler but still take the RMA.
Or the ones who will not accept a video card with a different cooler on it such as a water block, but will take it after you say this if you put the stock cooler back on it.
So I would say, so long as you can reflash the stock bios back, every company that isn't terrible to start with will honor your warranty if you flash the bios.
Anandtech uses a factory OC aftermarket 280X. Thats why.
The 7970GE just doesnt make sense.
Also, in case you didn't notice, you are preaching to the choir about the ineffectiveness of the 290X's cooler. There isn't anyone here defending it. Everyone is waiting for the aftermarket cooled versions.
Its a fast card, there's no doubt, but given what's happening it is clear AMD is lacking confidence. Not in their ability to produce a competitive card, but rather their ability to sell it. This is the only reason to gimp your own product to this extent, in the name of cost cutting.
Even the Uber mode starts to throttle badly. It cant even keep its baseclocks! This is a (short) benchmark only card. Outside that its performance dissolves.
No, don't try that. There are companies who specifically state they will honor their warranty as long as you return the card with the original cooler. "Probably" doesn't cut it. Just like 6-8 months is supposed to be the same as 5 months. 6-8 months ago you would have had to have bought Titan at $1000 for this type of performance. Which is exactly what I said. Just like you never counted the cost of water cooling when you were bragging about all the perf/$ your 470's offered. Posting FUD after FUD doesn't make your arguments correct. You're just typing one BS post after the other.
Also, in case you didn't notice, you are preaching to the choir about the ineffectiveness of the 290X's cooler. There isn't anyone here defending it. Everyone is waiting for the aftermarket cooled versions. Just like they would have even if AMD put an engineering masterpiece on it like nVidia did with Titan. In the end the only way nVidia sells the Titan cooler is by locking out the AIBs from releasing their own designs.
So the question is, AMD obviously knew their coolers stunk hard.. they even made some BS about "95C is safe"..
WHY? Why not folk out $10 extra on BOM for a better cooling design?
Either a) their margins are horrible as is (unlikely!) OR b) don't care, cos they see massive sales from AIB designs and not reference (as is the case for many generations)..
Because 3DVagabond says so, nobody wants reference.
All of my 470s were reference
Because 3DVagabond says so, nobody wants reference.
Well I guess that is half right, nobody wants AMD 290X reference that is pretty clear at this point.
Not all of them.
I actually went reference because all but one was purchased used, and the easiest example of people wanting reference, is the used market.
Many cards are reference on the used market, more than aftermarket in fact.
Kind of goes against the ideology that because the 290X reference cooler is pretty bad now "nobody wants reference".
Sure some people will want reference for different reasons.
People not planning on overclocking and that just want great performance out of the box, the R9 290X delivers while saving some money. It has more memory than the 780 and it has more horsepower for higher resolutions, with higher bandwidth and ROPs.
People wanting to WC them.
And was it a case of people wanting reference or a case of reference cards being offered the most and/or cheapest?
But it is, lets just take a look at Hardwarecanucks vs Anandtech.
Even while hardwarecanucks is still not perfect. It already shows the 290X losing 10-15% performance.
All of my 470s were reference
That's not what I asked. I asked when was the last time you used reference cooling. Not even a good effort on your part. Stooping pretty low to try and sneak that through. You were busted on the very next post.