R260/270/280/290/290x Review thread

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NIGELG

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Considering the 290X cant even keep baseclocks without throttle. Its simply a broken card that needs RMA.

We still have to see if an aftermarket can keep it cool without water. The 7990 is also notorious known for its overheating.

But so far, the 290X is nothing but a benchmark card that cant keep up performance in prolonged gaming.
I am not surprised that you would dump all over anything that is made by AMD.Do you even point out the good points of anything AMD?

Most impressive from AMD. Excellent performance and a pull the rug out from under pricing scheme. Anxious to see what the 290 could do and for how much.
Kudos AMD!! Well done!
You have changed:awe:!!!!!
But most critics are right about the reference cooler.It sucks badly.I haven't used reference since 9800 PRO days.I am not interested in reference coolers.

I will keep my 7970 for now but I hope the 290 X can bring some much needed competition.

Things look good for the next generation.I wonder what Nvidia will do now...
 
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$550 is absolutely awesome, but just as people said about the 680, looks like AMD pushed Hawaii to it's max to get that performance crown and good press. Thermals, powe draw, and noise is absolutely ridiculous.

Anyways, 10% faster than gtx780. Most of nvidia's products need a huge price cut.

Did you want to pay more for it for the temp to be lower and it be quieter? My guess is most people won't care enough and would rather have the ridiculous performance and relatively low price.
 

Sweepr

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Incredible performance/$. I was expecting GTX780-like performance or a little bit faster (but 5-10% slower than Titan overall). I still cant believe this thing matches/beats Titan.

Time to replace my Sapphire HD7970.
 

Genx87

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Heh AMDs Fermi. I like the price on it however. This will put pressue on Nvidia to lower prices.
 

BrightCandle

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We were all clamouring for a big die card and AMD gave it to us. The problem of course is the trade offs of big dies, power consumption which leads to a lot of heat which leads to lots of noise.

What I don't yet appreciate is why it manages to be this fast and hot. It's got a lot less transistors than the 780/titan and is quite a bit smaller die size wise and yet the end result is it produces a lot more power consumption and gets similar performance.

The other thing that baffles me is why crossfire is stuttering as it is on the pcper reviews. These cards clearly have the performance chops to do better, presumably that will be fixed with profiles in the near future.
 

Erenhardt

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I like the idea of thermal bottleneck being limiting factor when overclocking. Tweaking airflow, custom cooling, watercooling, all are great fun - much better than the chip lottery we had before.
 
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Heh AMDs Fermi. I like the price on it however. This will put pressue on Nvidia to lower prices.

I think this fermi will be much more widely accepted than nvidia's fermi. Reason being is this kicked in the front door for those that wanted high end performance but generally consider $500 to be the stopping point. Sure it's $50 more than that but I'll give a little leeway considering inflation and die prices going up. All in all I think this is giving way more value than the previous flagships that wanted $500.
 

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We still have to see if an aftermarket can keep it cool without water. The 7990 is also notorious known for its overheating.

But so far, the 290X is nothing but a benchmark card that cant keep up performance in prolonged gaming.

You have to be the most predictable poster I've ever seen on a forum :thumbsup:
 

Genx87

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I think this fermi will be much more widely accepted than nvidia's fermi. Reason being is this kicked in the front door for those that wanted high end performance but generally consider $500 to be the stopping point. Sure it's $50 more than that but I'll give a little leeway considering inflation and die prices going up. All in all I think this is giving way more value than the previous flagships that wanted $500.

That may be but the performance of Fermi was about 10-20% more than the competition at the cost of heat, power, and noise levels. Much like this beast. Funny how people tune changed since then
 
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That may be but the performance of Fermi was about 10-20% more than the competition at the cost of heat, power, and noise levels. Much like this beast. Funny how people tune changed since then

Yeah and I owned a gtx 480 so no hypocrisy from this side.
 

Sweepr

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I'm sure their VGA partners will handle the heat/noise issue a lot better than AMD's stock cooler, so I wouldnt put too much hate here. The fact that this card matches Titan is amazing. The last time we had an ATI GPU matching NVIDIA's best (same generation) was probably years ago, Radeon X1950XT vs Geforce 7900GTX?
 

GaiaHunter

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What I don't yet appreciate is why it manages to be this fast and hot. It's got a lot less transistors than the 780/titan and is quite a bit smaller die size wise and yet the end result is it produces a lot more power consumption and gets similar performance.

They are packed closer.
 

nOOky

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I'm impressed with the price/performance. But... my current 7970 is annoying enough when it's spooled at over 50% fan speed that I don't want to buy a new card that is just as noisy.

I'll wait and see what vendors with alternate cooling solutions come up with. I'm assuming that it will happen? I'd gladly pay the extra $$$ for a quieter, more over-clockable solution.

Now to wait and see what the 780ti brings to the table and it's price.
 

GaiaHunter

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That may be but the performance of Fermi was about 10-20% more than the competition at the cost of heat, power, and noise levels. Much like this beast. Funny how people tune changed since then

The GTX480 was more expensive and consumed almost TWICE the power.
It wasn't 20W or even 50W more, it was 100W more. You could run a 5970 and have 50W left.



Maybe those are the differences.
 

96Firebird

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I'll wait for aftermarket cooler reviews before coming to a conclusion on the card, but right now it runs HOT and uses some serious juice. A lot of people say, "Who cares about that extra 30W of power consumption?" Well, the thermal design engineers do, and it looks like they dropped the ball on this reference cooler. I have to wonder if they even used any FEA at all?

Performance is definitely there, especially at 4K (although I think it is a little premature to add 4K resolutions to reviews, considering the monitor cost).

I'm curious as to how the 290 will perform, and what the temperature and power consumption numbers will look for that.
 
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I'll wait for aftermarket cooler reviews before coming to a conclusion on the card, but right now it runs HOT and uses some serious juice. A lot of people say, "Who cares about that extra 30W of power consumption?" Well, the thermal design engineers do, and it looks like they dropped the ball on this reference cooler. I have to wonder if they even used any FEA at all?

Performance is definitely there, especially at 4K (although I think it is a little premature to add 4K resolutions to reviews, considering the monitor cost).

I'm curious as to how the 290 will perform, and what the temperature and power consumption numbers will look for that.

Did you not read anandtech's review? It specifically said the cooler was designed on a budget to keep the price as low as possible. If you desire a better cooler than wait for the aftermarket cards and expect to pay more for it. There is no free lunch. I love their approach honestly. A bf4 bundle adds $30 or you can do without it. A better cooler will cost more or you can deal with the noise/heat.
 

imaheadcase

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It would be wise to wait for Nvidia response before jumping on this card "just because its faster". If you don't need a card right this minute, i would wait till at least end next month.

Rumblings are already starting about nvidia doing price cuts before the 780Ti is released. I think the odd ball out is the Titan, I can see them pricing it at $550 and just cut the 780 out of the equation, and the 780Ti being around $650-700.
 
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It would be wise to wait for Nvidia response before jumping on this card "just because its faster". If you don't need a card right this minute, i would wait till at least end next month.

Rumblings are already starting about nvidia doing price cuts before the 780Ti is released.

Too late. They should have thought of the consumer long before amd brought out the titan slayer aka 290x. If anyone wants to support a company that is giving the pc gaming community fair pricing again then you should support amd. Period.
 

wand3r3r

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4K is interesting. Granted you can hardly call something forward thinking, especially until crossfire is smooth as butter, however this appears to be a better long term card than the overpriced competition. I could be wrong, but when games evolve over the next couple years I won't be surprised if this handles them better than the 780 and probably the titan (depends on RAM requirements).

I haven't bit on 4k but those $700 4k monitors on amazon have me salivating at the chance to go 4k. I suspect this card will still be relevant in a year or two when 4k drops in price (and 60Hz+ is possible).

The custom cards will likely be a lot better than a loud crusty reference cooler from the stone age, so my thoughts are mainly about them.

What were the more forward looking cards that showed their prowess beyond the competitor? Do you guys see this like that?
 

krumme

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I like the idea of thermal bottleneck being limiting factor when overclocking. Tweaking airflow, custom cooling, watercooling, all are great fun - much better than the chip lottery we had before.

This and the unique cf scaling is what makes this card special on the tech side imho.
 

imaheadcase

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Too late. They should have thought of the consumer long before amd brought out the titan slayer aka 290x. If anyone wants to support a company that is giving the pc gaming community fair pricing again then you should support amd. Period.

That makes zero sense. You do know graphics card companies are a business..high end gaming cards are NEVER about price. If you worry about price, then you should not be considering the 290x , period. But go ahead, and buy the 290x now, then next month if the 780Ti beats it be %5-10...lets hear you whine again.

Not only that, but look at the thermals of the 290x, amd can't do anything better for at least 1+ year, ever aftermarket coolers are not going to knock enough off to see them increasing clockspeeds much.
 
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krumme

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I predict no price cuts for the next year h2 until 20nm arives.
Cf scaling and especially mantle will make sure of it.

Give a non ref 290x running at 1.1 ghz 100% profile with 6.5mem and mantle at bf4. At 4k its going to be a ugly fast compared to the nv lineup.
 
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