Not sure how you got that; it's more that a handful of games don't rewrite history. I'm hoping this is a turning point and that AMD's CF is a viable choice (or better yet, the definitive choice, competition is always good). As I said, I'm looking forward to the benchmarks.I take it you don't trust Kyle's observations?
Well, I believe the 290X should have come in @ $499. Everyone said I was dumb and why should AMD give it away, but it was pretty obvious to me where the price had to be. All they did was leave a nice cozy pricepoint for nVidia to slip into underneath them. Like you, I've also said the 290 needs to be $399. We'll see if AMD can figure it out this time, or if they'll continue to price their new cards $50 to high.
So far, the only one they've got right is the 280X @ $299. But the market had already sorted that out for them with the 7970 pricing. They probably wished they could have priced it at $349.
If AMD had come in at $499 NVIDIA would have likely lowered the 780 price even further. AMD will probably drop the price on the 290X but no company is going to drop the price of its products day to day like that, I'm sure they're going to watch sales/inventory levels and adjust the price accordingly. With many places still being sold out of the 290X its too early to be screaming from the rooftops that it needs a price drop
I think what really makes the 780 a great value is the 3 games bundle - the lower power/heat is a nice bonus but I think AMD needs a new games bundle to help push the R9 290 and 290X.
As far as nVidia dropping below that price, it wouldn't be that easy. It would have a direct effect on all of the other cards in their stack. nVidia doesn't have the 290 (nonX) to slot in @ $399 either. Of course, we'll have to see what AMD does with the 290.
If AMD had come in at $499 NVIDIA would have likely lowered the 780 price even further. AMD will probably drop the price on the 290X but no company is going to drop the price of its products day to day like that, I'm sure they're going to watch sales/inventory levels and adjust the price accordingly. With many places still being sold out of the 290X its too early to be screaming from the rooftops that it needs a price drop
I think what really makes the 780 a great value is the 3 games bundle - the lower power/heat is a nice bonus but I think AMD needs a new games bundle to help push the R9 290 and 290X.
I thought game bundles were a sign of desperation? Has that changed now that NVidia is offering game bundles?? AMD doesn't need to drop prices, NVidia does. They haven't dropped the 770 near low enough, nor is the 780 at a good price. Who would want one anyway, Hawaii has far cooler tech and features. All GCN cards are in fact more desirable as Mantle gives them a big boost in at least 13 upcoming titles. Roll on APU13! Hope for NVidia's sake they have something left in the tank, but it seems pretty dry about now. AMD is just getting started.
I thought game bundles were a sign of desperation? Has that changed now that NVidia is offering game bundles?? AMD doesn't need to drop prices, NVidia does. They haven't dropped the 770 near low enough, nor is the 780 at a good price. Who would want one anyway, Hawaii has far cooler tech and features. All GCN cards are in fact more desirable as Mantle gives them a big boost in at least 13 upcoming titles. Roll on APU13! Hope for NVidia's sake they have something left in the tank, but it seems pretty dry about now. AMD is just getting started.
I thought game bundles were a sign of desperation? Has that changed now that NVidia is offering game bundles?? AMD doesn't need to drop prices, NVidia does. They haven't dropped the 770 near low enough, nor is the 780 at a good price. Who would want one anyway, Hawaii has far cooler tech and features. All GCN cards are in fact more desirable as Mantle gives them a big boost in at least 13 upcoming titles. Roll on APU13! Hope for NVidia's sake they have something left in the tank, but it seems pretty dry about now. AMD is just getting started.
I don't think game bundles are a sign of desperation. I think they simply add more value to a product. They were great for the 7xxx series of cards and I think with the 780 price drop game bundles would be great for the R9 series. I think the 780 is at a good price point, the 770/760 on the other hand are too expensive. If mantle has a significant impact on performance then it will add value to AMD cards and perhaps AMD won't have to do much in terms of price changes. The BF4 Mantle patch cannot come soon enough.
Always weird to see such extreme views from either side...
I don't get the brand loyalty mentality. Why would people even want competition to fail, causing massive price hikes that result in consumers being shafted. I mean, unless you're a shareholder, demand the best value for consumers from all these companies.
How is that for a failure:
http://videocardz.com/47607/powercolor-announces-radeon-r9-290-oc-ahead-launch
Who works there, srsly...
It is a great way to gain publicity, it provides no new information and the price is still unconfirmed :whiste:
Do people still believe these leaks are accidental?
Poor crossfire scaling in lower resolution.Can someone explain why 290X is beating soundly 7990 and 690 in low resolution, and loosing by the same margin in high res?
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/R9_290X_OC/17.html
Does it have something to do with more driver CPU load with multiGPU setup?
Poor crossfire scaling in lower resolution.
So, normal R9 290 releases today right? Where are the reviews?
SLI, same difference. Either way, poor multi-GPU scaling at lower resolutions on both teams.GTX690 doesn't support crossfire
Releases tomorrow on the 5th so the reviews should populate tonight.
Can someone explain why 290X is beating soundly 7990 and 690 in low resolution, and loosing by the same margin in high res?
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/R9_290X_OC/17.html
Does it have something to do with more driver CPU load with multiGPU setup?
=( Thought it was the 4th for some reason.