Exactly.
But people building new rigs right now still new a GPU to play games.
So, future proof or not, they need to get one.
And these are the current available choices.
Yes, hot and loud reference 290 with limited OC headroom or aftermarket 780s for $100 more with 3 games that cost 60, 60, 50 dollars.
290X isn't even an option, $150 more than the 290 with probably 5% more performance clock for clock.
Yes, hot and loud reference 290 with limited OC headroom or aftermarket 780s for $100 more with 3 games that cost 60, 60, 50 dollars.
290X isn't even an option, $150 more than the 290 with probably 5% more performance clock for clock.
As I said before, it's pretty clear the price cut on the 780 took AMD by surprise, the +7% fan speed beta 8 bios nullified any reason to have a 290X on the market right now.
Yes, hot and loud reference 290 with limited OC headroom or aftermarket 780s for $100 more with 3 games that cost 60, 60, 50 dollars.
Yes, hot and loud reference 290 with limited OC headroom or aftermarket 780s for $100 more with 3 games that cost 60, 60, 50 dollars.
290X isn't even an option, $150 more than the 290 with probably 5% more performance clock for clock.
As I said before, it's pretty clear the price cut on the 780 took AMD by surprise, the +7% fan speed beta 8 bios nullified any reason to have a 290X on the market right now.
Who pays retail prices for pc games? IF you wanted those games(I don't), within 2 months there will be a sale for them for 60% off anyhow.
There is a war between AMD and NVIDIA, and NVIDIA is running around trying to dig itself out from the debris of the R9 290 series fallout.
And after November 26th when the holiday bundle runs out and R9 290 after-market cards are out? You think November 27th 20nm cards will launch? NV's 770 and 780 will be overpriced in less than 22 days unless something changes. NV undercuts 7970 by $50 with a 680 2.5 months later and there is a huge amount of praise. AMD undercuts 780 by $250 5 months later and people focus on a cooler that can be replaced with a $75 after-market version or shortly after-market cards will be available for $0-50 premiums.
I didn't praise the mid-range $500 price point, you must be confused.Out of the box without the bundles Nvidia has a problem (which they could probably solve with a driver that increases fan speed like AMD did), overclocking looks like a different story however and the lack of aftermarket cards favors Nvidia considerably.
The story never changes with you really. You just find 1 thing to hate about a particular AMD card and keep repeating it over and over as if no solutions to the problem exist. You know there were after-market 480s, right?
You guys realize in 8/10 cases (excluding mITX and Quad CF), an open air cooler is superior?
This is akin to complaining that the reference cooler on i7 4770K is junk. Ya....that gets an enthusiast forum really far!
Who pays retail prices for pc games? IF you wanted those games(I don't), within 2 months there will be a sale for them for 60% off anyhow.
How about this perspective:
-- MSI Gaming 780 SLI was $1300 USD just weeks ago
-- Soon MSI Gaming R9 290 CF will offer similar or superior performance (at 1600P/multi-monitor and 4K) for $800 USD. I'll let that sink in for a second.
I did fine with my 7950 bundles, 780 aftermarket is faster than R290X out of the box... So you'd have worse performance today.
With 60Mhz tunning in afterburner you will make 290X defeat anything based on GTX 780.
How about this perspective:
780 SLI was $1300 and offered performance nothing from AMD competed with for five months.
I'll let that sink in for a second.
I'll just wait for a cheap 290 and put an Accelero cooler on it. I don't understand all the fuss people are making about the reference coolers. Who cares about reference coolers......they've aways been lousy(for high end cards). Also Nvidia reference coolers are a bit noisy. I want dead quiet coolers. And mostly that goes best with 120mm fans.
for $1200 you could get 3x7970GHz crossfire setup that earned more money while you are not playing.
While enjoying that great AMD pastime of stutter?
Seems overnight people are migrating in droves to mITX cases and Quad-fire/SLI. After hearing the MSI Gaming or say Asus DCUII, I don't want any reference card for air cooling.
2-3 minutes to watch that video and it's hard to imagine why anyone would want a reference R9 290/X/780/Titan except in 2/10 cases (mITX/Quad-SLI/CF) I can think of. You will also gate solid state chokes, upgraded VRMs/PCB with cards like Asus DCUII.
Pretty obvious the 780 price cuts made AMD sacrifice their 290X on the alter of fail to bring up their 290 to seem more consumer friendly. The bump from 40% to 47% fan speed while moderately increasing performance to make it seem more competitive out of the box, also had the adverse effect of making the 290 louder than the reference 480 by a few db.
My only concern is where do we stop not caring about inflating reference performance via fan speed?
With how much flack Nvidia got over the 480, which this card easily exceeds in noise and power consumption you have to wonder...
If the 780 Ti comes out at 95 temp target and 100% fan speed on a bios switch do we just talk about the performance on that setting while ignoring the obvious downsides like power and noise? I imagine if they did something like that we'd see a card 40% faster than the 290 at 1440... Would we just bow down at that point or would someone have the fortitude to say enough is enough?
I like the synthetic benchmarks.
You seem to enjoy it enough.
You seem to enjoy it enough.
While enjoying that great AMD pastime of stutter?