The 290X mem bus is actually smaller than Tahiti's. Besides offering more bandwidth. It's a win/win.
2GB 7Ghz GDDR5 is not cheap. I assume thats why they went 512bit and lower clocks with the 290/290X as well.
The 290X mem bus is actually smaller than Tahiti's. Besides offering more bandwidth. It's a win/win.
You mean in bus width? Or actual physical size? If the latter, who cares?
I really hope the 290 overclocks well. I think it will be the star on this release. Matches 780 performance for under $500 and overclocks well, it will do good I think.
From looking at the 280X reviews I haven't been impressed with their overclocks (XFX and ASUS). I know the XFX is voltage locked and the Asus is not, but it would think one the Asus would be capable of hitting 1200Mhz. Maybe this is why AMD chose to go with a lower boost frequency on the 280X? Maybe most of the chips they are using and just not up to par with the 7970 chips? Who knows.. I guess we will have to wait...
From Hardware Canucks -
With more time and access to the necessary tools, this will likely be improved but judging by our conversations with board partners, the R9 280X hasn’t been a great overclocker for their teams either. That doesn’t bode well for enthusiasts but only quality time in the hands of the public will tell if these initial impressions are correct.
From hardwarehaven-
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...card-review-power-temps-and-overclocking.html
We found our 280X DirectCU 2 Top hit a maximum overclock of 1250/1650
So at least one did hit 1200.
Although if these cards are consuming less power, they might not overclock as high.
I'm really disapointed and I don't get it why other people aren't as disapointed as I am. I mean what this is, is basically the same graphic cards from two years ago at 10% to 20% cheaper prices and with new names. I mean big deal, two years and no performance increases.
The middle of the range is still nowhere near the top of the line 7970GE is, in the past the new generation middle card selling for about $200 will have the same performance as the previous generation top of the line card that sold for $400/500.
Now the middle of the range card has the same performance that the last generation middle of the range card had at about $20 to $30 dollard cheaper, this is pretty much almost a fraud.
The new GPU's from AMD are a farce, just absolute crap, repackaged as something new. Its pretty much the same price and same performance as two years old cards.
I'm really disapointed and I don't get it why other people aren't as disapointed as I am. I mean what this is, is basically the same graphic cards from two years ago at 10% to 20% cheaper prices and with new names. I mean big deal, two years and no performance increases.
The middle of the range is still nowhere near the top of the line 7970GE is, in the past the new generation middle card selling for about $200 will have the same performance as the previous generation top of the line card that sold for $400/500.
Now the middle of the range card has the same performance that the last generation middle of the range card had at about $20 to $30 dollard cheaper, this is pretty much almost a fraud.
I wouldn't call Hawaii a farce but the R-rest a pity.The new GPU's from AMD are a farce, just absolute crap, repackaged as something new. Its pretty much the same price and same performance as two years old cards.
I'm really disapointed and I don't get it why other people aren't as disapointed as I am. I mean what this is, is basically the same graphic cards from two years ago at 10% to 20% cheaper prices and with new names. I mean big deal, two years and no performance increases.
The middle of the range is still nowhere near the top of the line 7970GE is, in the past the new generation middle card selling for about $200 will have the same performance as the previous generation top of the line card that sold for $400/500.
Now the middle of the range card has the same performance that the last generation middle of the range card had at about $20 to $30 dollard cheaper, this is pretty much almost a fraud.
The new GPU's from AMD are a farce, just absolute crap, repackaged as something new. Its pretty much the same price and same performance as two years old cards.
I guess the rebadge is a nice way of getting new positive reviews based on price/performance for an old product.
Except, in this case, the price isn't different. If the 280x was cheaper than the 7970, it would be great, but it isn't.
At least the 770 came as basically a 680 rebadge, but was $100 cheaper.
So, the 770 @ $400 is good value because the 680 was more expensive, but the 280X is poor value because the 7970 was already better value than the 680? The logic escapes me. :\
At release, the 770 was a good value in the $400 price point. It offered previously $500 performance for a $400 price.
The 280x offers $300 performance for a $300 price point. It isn't a bad card, but it doesn't have the value that should be associated with a rebadge. It should be cheaper than the card it is rebranding. Another issue is the 7970 is a good value already, so the 280X has to be a better value (which it isn't).
At release, the 770 was a good value in the $400 price point. It offered previously $500 performance for a $400 price.
The 280x offers $300 performance for a $300 price point. It isn't a bad card, but it doesn't have the value that should be associated with a rebadge. It should be cheaper than the card it is rebranding. Another issue is the 7970 is a good value already, so the 280X has to be a better value (which it isn't).
Except, in this case, the price isn't different. If the 280x was cheaper than the 7970, it would be great, but it isn't.
At least the 770 came as basically a 680 rebadge, but was $100 cheaper.
Prior to the GPU14 event, I regularly saw 7970GEs for their 400$+ pricepoint continually on newegg *and amazon.
Isn't that still the case? Just eyeballing Newegg shows the lowest price @ $349. Or am I missing something?
It looks like about half of them are 300-310$ and the other half are...priced very oddly. Not sure what's up with that.
I'm confused (nVidia user here ) - but I see standard 7970 in that range but all the 7970GE are $350 or above.