R260/270/280/290/290x Review thread

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chimaxi83

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Yeah, I still don't care about 4K though :/ Unless that somehow directly translates to lower resolutions, which I doubt.
 

tential

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all I have to say the last few posts re high res don't matter is base on what 5 year old console ports used in the benches .
come ps4-xbone for my money I think 4 k high res. is a good indication of a cards horse power that might be useful in the next gen of ports or maybe not depending on the port gods.

PS4/Xbone won't even run EVERY game at 1080p and NO games will run at a higher resolution than 1080p. I'm confused as to what you're saying though you might want to rephrase it with complete sentences, punctuation, etc.

Yeah, I still don't care about 4K though :/ Unless that somehow directly translates to lower resolutions, which I doubt.

When a 4K display hits 70-80 inches for 2k-3k USD then I'll care. Right now though, it's way out of my reach.
3.5k USD for 55 inches is just too much for me to personally spend but I'm sure SOME people will spend it. It's just we don't really have the correct tech out for 4K display connections anyway.
I do think that beginning of 2015 though we'll see people making the upgrade though. The industry REALLY wants to push 4K because people aren't upgrading their HDTVs and they're hoping this jump to 4K will be a large enough jump to sell HDTVs, new video players, etc.
 
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krumme

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Possible Crossfire performance leaked out. If true, that scaling is disgusting in its efficiency.

Imho if true that is far, far more interesting than if this gpu is 10% faster or slower than 780/titan.

Scaling like this basically mean the race for the fastest single gpu will become uninteresting. 2 leaner cores without any downsides can be economic far more effective than a huge one. This is great news if true for gamers. Man it took some years to get there. Lets hope it works in real life.
 

rgallant

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PS4/Xbone won't even run EVERY game at 1080p and NO games will run at a higher resolution than 1080p. I'm confused as to what you're saying though you might want to rephrase it with complete sentences, punctuation, etc.




one to many pops maybe

just trying to point out if I were to update my cards today for the next Ps4-Xbox1 game engines , benches showing games base off really old game engines with pc settings tact on is the best we have today ,

If the newer game engines ported to pc's come out the box more demanding on the gpu's those 4k benches could show how a gpu deals with a much greater work load just to run at 1440p.

I just see 4k res. as another stress tester for gpu's not the res. I'll be running for a long time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-wrxsFGcUs
some ps2 vs ps3 vs ps4
 

Creig

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The above is from videocardz.com

If accurate, these results mirror what many of us expected to see. The R290X trades blows with the Titan and 780 at 1920x1080 and leads both of them the majority of the time at ultra-high res. As 5760x1080 is 6.3 megapixel and 4K resolution (3840x2160) is 8.3 megapixels, I expect the R290X will increase its lead over the 780 and Titan at 4K.

It will be interesting to discover what resolution/graphics level/game the R290X is on roughly equal footing with the 780 and the Titan.
 
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3DVagabond

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The above is from videocardz.com

If accurate, these results mirror what many of us expected to see. The R290X trades blows with the Titan and 780 at 1080 and leads both of them the majority of the time at ultra-high res. As 5760x1080 is 6.3 megapixel and 4K resolution (3840x2160) is 8.3 megapixels, I expect the R290X will increase its lead over the 780 and Titan at 4K.

It will be interesting to discover what resolution/graphics level/game the R290X is on roughly equal footing with the 780 and the Titan.

Actually, it's only 1080 medium settings Titan leads most of the time. Once settings are turned up and AA is added the 290X starts to open up on Titan most of the time. You don't need HiRes for it to happen.
 

itsmydamnation

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hi rez and AA are both hitting rops and memory bandwdith, sure its a different mix of depth/colour but as we can see it has a similar effect and all that bandwidth and ROP's on Hawaii are still being put to good use @ 1080P with AA.

Would love to see some AA performance comparisons @ 1080P. could single card SSAA be viable most of the time ?
 

dmoney1980

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Update on my MSI 280x - after about a week's use, I've noticed that the GPU is emitting some coil whine that I can hear through my speakers. I checked some newegg reviews and it sounds like others are experiencing the same thing.

Might just do a return and pick up the Asus card when it's back in stock....or get a 290x!
 

blackened23

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Update on my MSI 280x - after about a week's use, I've noticed that the GPU is emitting some coil whine that I can hear through my speakers. I checked some newegg reviews and it sounds like others are experiencing the same thing.

Might just do a return and pick up the Asus card when it's back in stock....or get a 290x!

Yeahhhh. Get rid of that stupid thing. A lot of 7970s had this issue and MSI apparently didn't take the time to ensure it was fixed - I have not heard of anyone experiencing the same with the Asus 280X DC II card. It should be much better all-around.
 

krumme

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Yeahhhh. Get rid of that stupid thing. A lot of 7970s had this issue and MSI apparently didn't take the time to ensure it was fixed - I have not heard of anyone experiencing the same with the Asus 280X DC II card. It should be much better all-around.

Agree dont bother with junk for even 10 minutes. If they dont make it right get another card from another vendor straight away.
 

raghu78

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yeah asus r9 280x dcii top is the best r9 280x to get. without a doubt the quietest r9 280x cooler. very high quality custom PCB. unlocked voltage.
 

Creig

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AMD Radeon™ 290X Battlefield 4 Limited Edition

Promotion Period:

Promotion Period begins October 25, 2013 and ends on March 31, 2014. Eligible AMD Product must be purchased during Promotional Period. AMD Unique ID Codes must be used to obtain EA Origin® Product Code by April 30, 2014, after which the AMD Unique ID Code is void.

Game Release Date:

Anticipated release date for Battlefield 4™ is on or before October 29, 2013 (actual release
date may vary by country); although game releases may be delayed for reasons that are out of the control of AMD.


http://sites.amd.com/us/Documents/AMD_Radeon_290X_Battlefield4_Limited_Ed.pdf

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So I would say we'll see the NDA lift this Thursday, October 24.
 

Stuka87

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Update on my MSI 280x - after about a week's use, I've noticed that the GPU is emitting some coil whine that I can hear through my speakers. I checked some newegg reviews and it sounds like others are experiencing the same thing.

Might just do a return and pick up the Asus card when it's back in stock....or get a 290x!

If it is coming through your speakers, check the routing of any internal audio cables.

For me it was the line going to the front panel for the headphones. It would pick up noise from the fan and then output it through the speakers.

However, if it is actual coil whine, there is two things you can do.

1: Limit your FPS to ~120 or so. It typically happens when you get into the hundreds of FPS.
2: Place some electronics safe epoxy on the coils, this will stop them from whining and is very common practice.
 

dmoney1980

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If it is coming through your speakers, check the routing of any internal audio cables.

For me it was the line going to the front panel for the headphones. It would pick up noise from the fan and then output it through the speakers.

However, if it is actual coil whine, there is two things you can do.

1: Limit your FPS to ~120 or so. It typically happens when you get into the hundreds of FPS.
2: Place some electronics safe epoxy on the coils, this will stop them from whining and is very common practice.

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. That said.....

1- I'm on a 1440p monitor, so going over 120 fps is no an issue.
2. I feel that this is not something that I should have to do to a brand new card. I don't use the internal audio front panel so I doubt that is the root of the issue, plus I never had any feedback with my Radeon 5870 in there. It's sad to think that MSI did nothing to fix the issue. Apparently this coil whine has been plagueing them for 2 GPU generations now.
 

ikachu

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I got the asus r9 280x dcii top and I'd definitely recommend it. The cooler is really as quiet as everyone is saying.
 

tential

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AMD Radeon™ 290X Battlefield 4 Limited Edition

Promotion Period:

Promotion Period begins October 25, 2013 and ends on March 31, 2014. Eligible AMD Product must be purchased during Promotional Period. AMD Unique ID Codes must be used to obtain EA Origin® Product Code by April 30, 2014, after which the AMD Unique ID Code is void.

Game Release Date:

Anticipated release date for Battlefield 4™ is on or before October 29, 2013 (actual release
date may vary by country); although game releases may be delayed for reasons that are out of the control of AMD.


http://sites.amd.com/us/Documents/AMD_Radeon_290X_Battlefield4_Limited_Ed.pdf

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So I would say we'll see the NDA lift this Thursday, October 24.

Anyone else think this is kind of silly if NDA is lifted Oct 24? I'd say release it tomorrow at the LATEST, preferably today. You want to drum up some hype for a couple of days with actual performance numbers.

I feel like if I needed a new GPU right now and the NDA was lifted Oct 24th, I'd wait a couple of days to see consensus on forums/review sitse.
 

Chumster

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VC reports that the 290x NDA comes off on the 24th @ 12:01 - not very surprising. What I find boggling is that the NDA for the R9 290 won't be lifted until the 31st??

 

GaiaHunter

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VC reports that the 290x NDA comes off on the 24th @ 12:01 - not very surprising. What I find boggling is that the NDA for the R9 290 won't be lifted until the 31st??


It seems to be a normal MO from AMD recently - 5870->5850 one weak later. 7970->7950 one weak later.

But once you have solid reviews on the R9 290X estimating the performance from the R9 290X won't be that difficult.
 

Grooveriding

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chimaxi83

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Hopefully they include the new smoothness per watt per transistor per mm^2 metric.
 

blackened23

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Pretty impressive for the 290X. Anyway, any predictions for the sure to ensue trolling and goal post shifting:

Stock price?

Financials?

290X uses (OH MY GOD) 9 more watts at load during gaming?

What?
 
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