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cmdrdredd

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Not sure how that matters. Take all those numbers and average them out. It's not valid to cherry pick out the outliers. Taken as a whole it's always overall faster than the 780 and at times overall faster than a Titan or on parity. Along with costing $100 & $450 less respectively.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290X/27.html





http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/...r9-290x-im-test/5/#rating-2560-1600-4xaa16xaf


Point is...it doesn't always beat nvidia cards. If someone is playing a specific game they don't care about the other games they don't play. I'm pointing out the flaw in the argument that is "beats a 780" when it only wins in certain instances or certain games. By the same token I cannot say a 780 beats a 290x either. It is not really much different than gtx680 vs hd7970 before. Win some games, lose some games.
 

Elfear

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Did we read the same reviews? At 2560x1440 and 2560x1600 the 780 and titan both beat the 290x in various benchmarks. Notably battlefield 3 and crysis 3.

Neither one beats the other one across the board.


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Point is...it doesn't always beat nvidia cards. If someone is playing a specific game they don't care about the other games they don't play. I'm pointing out the flaw in the argument that is "beats a 780" when it only wins in certain instances or certain games. By the same token I cannot say a 780 beats a 290x either. It is not really much different than gtx680 vs hd7970 before. Win some games, lose some games.

By that same token you can't say a 780 beats a 280X either as there are games where the Radeon is faster.

Unless you're speaking about a specific game everyone bases their opinions on averages. The 780 is faster than the 280X and the 290X is faster than the 780. There is no need to make a disclaimer that in certain games the slower card is actually faster. Everyone assumes that when making statements about relative speed.
 
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GaiaHunter

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Point is...it doesn't always beat nvidia cards. If someone is playing a specific game they don't care about the other games they don't play. I'm pointing out the flaw in the argument that is "beats a 780" when it only wins in certain instances or certain games. By the same token I cannot say a 780 beats a 290x either. It is not really much different than gtx680 vs hd7970 before. Win some games, lose some games.

On average the R290X beats the 780, especially as resolution increase.
On certain instances or games the 780 beats or ties the 290X.
 

toyota

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You guys a re being ridiculous now. Ivy-Bridge and Haswell run just as hot, but nobody has a problem with that. It's only has as loud as a GTX680.

It's the Fastest single GPU around even with the crappy stock cooler. It's faster than the U$1000 Titan and half the price. It becomes even faster as the load increases. 2560x1440 and 5760x1080 it starts to make Titan and GTX780 look like lower tier cards. Crossfire scales better than anything seen before and is just as smooth as SLI. Yeah sure it uses 30-50W more than 780. But When the games and settings get demanding the performance difference is worth more than the power difference.

It's been getting awards from every site around. This is with it's worst foot forward. It will only get better in coming weeks. This Forum has really reached a new low.

Hearing loss, boiling temps, crazy power consumption. Talk about exaggeration. I guess you guys enjoy paying more for slower cards.
what the hell are you talking about? People most certainly b**** about the CPU temps and you know it. It's one of the most talked about things when it comes to those CPUs. and the 290 X is way way way louder than the 680 so don't be ridiculous.
 

Erenhardt

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http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=25174841&postcount=55

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Originally Posted by sieze2 View Post
Wow so the 290 OC is within 6% of the 290X OC (on normal firestrike). Thats amazing. When Gibbo said its performance when overclocked was "very, very, very close to the 290x" he was not kidding.
I've now got 290 Pro beating X, Titan and 780 HOF (1310MHz) in all the benchmarks I ran with Asus BIOS. EPIC Card!

There were people here claiming that AMD will not go out with big die, and will not match titan with single gpu card. Some even said they will eat their hats - did that happened? Have I missed something
 

Skurge

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Point is...it doesn't always beat nvidia cards. If someone is playing a specific game they don't care about the other games they don't play. I'm pointing out the flaw in the argument that is "beats a 780" when it only wins in certain instances or certain games. By the same token I cannot say a 780 beats a 290x either. It is not really much different than gtx680 vs hd7970 before. Win some games, lose some games.

I don't see which games the 780 does better in. I can see one where it's equal at 1920x1080 and loses in all the others. Sometimes pretty badly like in COH2, Hitman and BF3.

So which game is this where the 780 is faster than the 290X. It Looks even worse in SLI.
 

GaiaHunter

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what the hell are you talking about? People most certainly b**** about the CPU temps and you know it. It's one of the most talked about things when it comes to those CPUs. and the 290 X is way way way louder than the 680 so don't be ridiculous.

Anyone that can stand a 7970GHz can stand the R290X uber. Probably anyone that can stand the 680 will also be ok with it.

Again 40-60 dB is conversation volume. Sure, the sound produced by the fans is more annoying than conversation. If one play with a headset they will have no problem.
 

toyota

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780 is not even a contender, but the Titan manages to hang in there.




Conclusion; A Titan Slayer Is Born

let's get real. If someone is looking at the 290 X then the 780 is also a consideration especially once the price lowered. the reality is that the 780 is actually faster than the 290 X once both are overclocked which is exactly what most people do that buy those cards.and the reference cooler is a joke and who knows when the better cooler will come out.
 

Phynaz

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I think the real story is going to be the non-X version. Assuming it has the same power limit, performance when overclocked should be the same. For less $$$.
 

wand3r3r

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Point is...it doesn't always beat nvidia cards. If someone is playing a specific game they don't care about the other games they don't play. I'm pointing out the flaw in the argument that is "beats a 780" when it only wins in certain instances or certain games. By the same token I cannot say a 780 beats a 290x either. It is not really much different than gtx680 vs hd7970 before. Win some games, lose some games.

That's a pretty weak "nitpick" since reviews as shown above have it trading blows with the Titan and actually losing with uber mode.

I expect goalpost shifting but trying to cherry pick games when it's clearly losing. :whiste:
 

NIGELG

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Yeah I agree. I don't know how people can be so accepting of a gpu that operates near boiling temperatures and runs loud enough to cause hearing loss. And the excuses are pitiful "just wait, someday a third party cooler will make it tolerable" lol.

You guys a re being ridiculous now. Ivy-Bridge and Haswell run just as hot, but nobody has a problem with that. It's only has as loud as a GTX680.

It's the Fastest single GPU around even with the crappy stock cooler. It's faster than the U$1000 Titan and half the price. It becomes even faster as the load increases. 2560x1440 and 5760x1080 it starts to make Titan and GTX780 look like lower tier cards. Crossfire scales better than anything seen before and is just as smooth as SLI. Yeah sure it uses 30-50W more than 780. But When the games and settings get demanding the performance difference is worth more than the power difference.

It's been getting awards from every site around. This is with it's worst foot forward. It will only get better in coming weeks. This Forum has really reached a new low.

Hearing loss, boiling temps, crazy power consumption. Talk about exaggeration. I guess you guys enjoy paying more for slower cards.
El Nvidia fanos es mucho butto hurto

Anyhow as a 7970 owner I'm not sure if I want this....I will probably wait for a new node.

I think it will be great water cooled or with some good aftermarket air coolers.

Nvidia people and predictably Titan owners might be upset but that's what you get for paying Nvidia's premiums....
 

Elfear

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let's get real. If someone is looking at the 290 X then the 780 is also a consideration especially once the price lowered. the reality is that the 780 is actually faster than the 290 X once both are overclocked which is exactly what most people do that buy those cards.and the reference cooler is a joke and who knows when the better cooler will come out.

We're hearing conflicting reports about that. Linus says the oced 780 is faster and Gibbo says the 290X is faster. Gibbo had unlocked voltage but I'm thinking Linus had stock voltage. We need more reviews with unlocked voltage on the 290X to see which one comes out on top.

I agree with you though that the reference cooler is sub-par for overclocking.
 

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http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=25174841&postcount=55



There were people here claiming that AMD will not go out with big die, and will not match titan with single gpu card. Some even said they will eat their hats - did that happened? Have I missed something


I ate it a few days ago, taste like chicken.

I really didn't think AMD would go this big on 28nm, obviously I was wrong and their reference design isn't capable of handing it either.

Like I said, if it responds well to water the 290 could be the best card overall for overclockers this generation.

Very similar to my beloved Fermi which the AMD fanbase here tried to tear down, too much hardware to tame with air, shined under water.

But it's a steep road, good classys are capable of huge clocks as well.

I am pleasantly surprised by the 290X, had I still been in my benchmark madness phase I'd probably be all over a R290 but I seemed to have switched gears. I'm really considering selling my 6+6 7950 and just moving to single. In 1025 hours recorded on my kill-a-watt, I've used 103 kwh, 95% of that is single card, often in i-mode.

Not to detract from AMD at all, this card will have its niche. I'm just personally no longer in that phase anymore.
 
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Subyman

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I'm happy to see AMD beating the 780 handily (9% on average as reported by Anandtech) and trading blows with the Titan (99% the performance of Titan as reported by Anandtech.) I'm also happy to see 4k performance being decent on an semi-affordable single card. This will definitely become relevant over the next year as 4k monitors trickle out. The price point is killer. I can't imagine considering a Titan or a 780 (especially since Nvidia announced the TI edition.)

I hope nvidia doesn't simply up clock the 780 and keep the same price for the TI. I'd love to see them drop to $499-$549. It will be interesting to see how the R9 290 does against the 770.

I'm definitely ready to see some aftermarket coolers on the 290X. As it sits, I wouldn't personally buy one due to the heat. I've been down that road with the GF100 cards and don't want to tread in the 90C+ territory again.
 

ShadowOfMyself

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and the 290 X is way way way louder than the 680 so don't be ridiculous.

Dude, just stop it... This exact chart was posted in this page:



290X in quiet mode is ONE db louder than 680... for a 5% performance loss compared to Uber mode
This means even in quiet mode it is STILL faster than the 780 (in a few cases over 10%), while costing 100$ less

Whats your next argument?
 

Crap Daddy

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Other than the price I don't see anything particularly great about this card. And the price is in fact a correct one for a high-end card, nothing more and people should understand that it is only this $550 tag in relation with the Titan madness pricing and the overpriced 780 which makes the 290X to look good. It's been 8 months since this kind of performance, or even still better in some games, was available. It is almost five months since this kind of performance is available with aftermarket 780s for around $100 more. I don't even want to mention loud and hot. Since the 480 came into discussion, that Thermi had at least 10% over the 5870.
 

Skurge

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what the hell are you talking about? People most certainly b**** about the CPU temps and you know it. It's one of the most talked about things when it comes to those CPUs. and the 290 X is way way way louder than the 680 so don't be ridiculous.

I don't remember anyone making this big a stink about and claiming they were not going to buy it and how much AMD cpus were so much cooler. Except maybe Nvidia fans.














There is one or 2 where the 290X in its default mode is pretty loud. But overall it is not any louder than previous cards like the GTX680.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...-card-review-test-system-and-methodology.html

290X versus a custom 780. I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion the 780 is faster when both are overclocked. Yes, the stock cooler is trash, but most people I see on this forum DO NOT have reference 780s. Even with that said. The stock 290X is still as fast as custom 780s.

Don't get me wrong, I won't be getting a referenec 290X just cause It's really hot in Namibia and it's summer now and I like my PCs quiet so I feel like I would be leaving performance on the Table.
 

wand3r3r

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The R9 290X and R9 290 will support AMD's frame pacing on multi-display Eyefinity and 4K resolutions, and resolutions above 2560x1600 with the current Catalyst 13.11 Beta V5 driver. The reason why R9 290X and R9 290 support frame pacing now, while current CrossFire does not above 2560x1600, is because getting frame pacing to work on R9 290/X is actually easier to do with the new DMA engines. With the previous generation hardware, it is more complicated.

Reading the [H] review.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/10/23/amd_radeon_r9_290x_video_card_review/3
 

Erenhardt

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Don't get me wrong, I won't be getting a referenec 290X just cause It's really hot in Namibia and it's summer now and I like my PCs quiet so I feel like I would be leaving performance on the Table.

LOL, where?! I refuse you are actually living there!
Is there a cold season?
 
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