Uber mode exists in the card without user intervention.
Good luck having the card automatically open the box, install itself in the PC slot, download and install drivers.
You clearly don't know what default means.
By your "logic", every option you can set in the drivers is default mode :hmm:
Wikipedia:
Good luck with that telekinesis...but wait...that would also be user intervention. I guess you need to wait for some poor dud in a factory to make a mistake and set the uber mode. Then you can call it default.
I did a break down
Overall
14.75% faster than Titan SLI
23.25% faster than 780 SLI
We both know if the roles were reversed you'd be playing on the other side of the field.
It's like doing a 7970 vs 680 review, except Nvidia released the 680 with a 170w bios and a 240w bios with a screamer fan and reviewers didn't even bother to overclock the 7970 to compare them.
Right now Nvidia has the better coolers and the better overclocking cards because of their already to market advantage, and yet we have to go through review after review of uber bios selected and stock Nvidia products.
It was a smart move by AMD, and many reviewers are just sad. It's a good thing we have fresh blood like Linus which always tests overclocking. Sure showed a lot of people how good 7xxx series was compared to Nvidia counterparts with all their overclocked reviews.
In the Linus review at 1440p the 780 is faster, clocks are +125 +300, so not even a big overclock (netted them 1110 core), R290X was at 1050/1300 /w 70% fan speed.
Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared
We both know if the roles were reversed you'd be playing on the other side of the field.
It's like doing a 7970 vs 680 review, except Nvidia released the 680 with a 170w bios and a 240w bios with a screamer fan and reviewers didn't even bother to overclock the 7970 to compare them.
Right now Nvidia has the better coolers and the better overclocking cards because of their already to market advantage, and yet we have to go through review after review of uber bios selected and stock Nvidia products.
It was a smart move by AMD, and many reviewers are just sad. It's a good thing we have fresh blood like Linus which always tests overclocking.
Uber mode exists in the card without user intervention.
Good luck having the card automatically open the box, install itself in the PC slot, download and install drivers.
Well played by AMD, though it is becoming more and more clear why we aren't seeing OC vs OC reviews. Linus only managing 50 MHz on the core at 70% fan should be some indication of this, even stating that they could go higher but the card would just throttle and be slower.
It doesn't matter what exists, but what is selected. Default is exactly one (1) state, not two, not three, not a hundred.
It doesn't matter what exists, but what is selected. Default is exactly one (1) state, not two, not three, not a hundred.
The thing is, one can now purchase GTX 780 SC editions for less than $549 USD that will outperform Titan (let alone a stock GTX 780), all while being cooler and quieter than 290X. So the overall performance difference in SLI relative to 290X Crossfire "Uber" mode would be closer to 10% (or possibly less depending on variant).
Considering how hot, noisy, and power consuming two 290X would be in Crossfire, this added perf. may or may not be a good tradeoff. "Uber" mode is already loud with a single 290X (to the point where some reviewers felt it was nearly unbearable over extended periods of gameplay), so that becomes significantly worse in Crossfire. Same goes for power and heat too. And when benchmarked in "Quiet" mode (which is really not that quiet in the first place) Crossfire 290X vs. SLI GTX 780 SC would be basically a wash in terms of overall performance, with Crossfire 290X still being hotter/louder/more power consuming. 4K performance is relatively impressive though, but 4K gaming is realistically some ways off due to the very high cost of 4K monitors. 4K gaming at higher details would require an investment of many thousands of dollars due to a need for both monitor and multiple GPU's.
The fact is that the 290X has 2 presets settings, both under warranty, both equal to everyone.
It is not a driver setting you change, it is a flip of a bios switch.
Obviously a switch can only be in one position, but both positions are part of the card.
AMD was fairly criticized by having a preset setting in their 6990 that voided warranty. This is the opposite case.
But bios are default bios.
Or are you saying that the uber bios is not a factory default bios?
How much noise do these generate at 100% fan? Must be deafening.
dude the avg % nos at 5760 x 1080 are 15% above GTX Titan and 23% above GTX 780. 4k is even worse for Nvidia because Metro LL scaling is broken at 4K. thats a TWIMTBP game released 6 months ago. there is no reason for Nvidia to have issues after blowing the 4k horn in Sep. Without including Metro LL R9 290x is 20% avg faster than Titan and 30% avg faster than GTX 780.
Nvidia started the fight but AMD has surely settled it. :biggrin: This is a thorough and complete dismantling of Nvidia at the high end. the Titan was the poster child for high res gaming and now that goes to the new king in town - R9 290X.
few key observations.
1. 1.5 slots gap between the cards for good airflow . crucial for keeping temps under 95c and not badly affect clocks. still these cards throttle as proven by various reviewers like hardocp, hwc, computerbase etc
2. uber mode
3. the cards were still very hot.
so now how high do the GTX 780s need to clock to match R9 290X cards
LMAO...no one is going to run 290x XF mate, not without spending at less another $300 to keep them cool. Once again AMD has half completed the job, and by the time the AIBs complete it with a adequate cooler, 780Ti will be here to cement the crown...There was never any new King im afraid, AMD never gave the chip a change with that cooler.
LMAO...no one is going to run 290x XF mate, not without spending at less another $300 to keep them cool. Once again AMD has half completed the job, and by the time the AIBs complete it with a adequate cooler, 780Ti will be here to cement the crown...There was never any new King im afraid, AMD never gave the chip a change with that cooler.
The thing is, one can now purchase GTX 780 SC editions for less than $549 USD that will outperform Titan (let alone a stock GTX 780), all while being cooler and quieter than 290X. So the overall performance difference in SLI relative to 290X Crossfire "Uber" mode would be closer to 10% (or possibly less depending on variant)
LMAO...no one is going to run 290x XF mate, not without spending at less another $300 to keep them cool.
If I was 12 years old, I would run all my fans at 100% Now, I value silence so I can concentrate on what I am doing. I linked a video from YouTube showing how much noise the 290X makes in load, so I can only imagine what two at 100% would make. I imagine it is absurd.
Raw performance is great, but noise is also a performance measurement as far as I am concerned. People can try to downplay it all they want, but there is a difference between being able to hear something and then something being intolerable except to people with hearing problems.
Not hating on the raw performance of the 290X, but seriously...I can handle not having an extra 5fps on average if I don't have to put up with a 747 in my case. Reviewers can't just gloss over that because there are people out there who take those things into consideration when making purchases.
Why would you need to spend that much to keep them cool? For these resolutions you could always downclock the 290X to get a lower performance level, say to match the 780's performance, and probably undervolt/lower the fan speed. Then you'd have the extra memory which is a benefit for these types of set ups. Of course the 290x setup is more money.
But then again just a few months ago FPS didn't matter, all that mattered was 'smoothness', which again the 290X seems to pull ahead in that category.
The 290X CF set up is simply a more versatile option, but it comes at a $50/card premium when compared to the 780. Titan isn't even worth mentioning given it's price, really.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1788658
The vrm cooling on them are not up to snuff for the R9 290X though. Hoping AIB's have some better alternatives.
LMAO...no one is going to run 290x XF mate, not without spending at less another $300 to keep them cool. Once again AMD has half completed the job, and by the time the AIBs complete it with a adequate cooler, 780Ti will be here to cement the crown...There was never any new King im afraid, AMD never gave the chip a change with that cooler.
Pretty sure 3db is doubling. These things are stupidly loud in Xfire. Imo you gotta water cool them or you go nvidia. I'm all for more performance but it's no good if you can't provide a cooler that's up to the job. 95 degree temp target, [H] recommend 100% fans on a brand new dust free card in the winter, 65db noise shows the cooler can't hack it.
Psychologically I always try to think a year or two down the line - while it's the fastest thing on the planet you might almost excuse being unable to hear your game, but when it's just another 2 cards you'd think why am I trying to play next to a jet engine?