Originally posted by: 7757524
Anand didn't give us exact numbers because they don't know the final clock speed. However, they did provide us with a percentage increase over the Ti4600 and said that it is all the same settings as their other bench so you can figure it out. Different proc I think. They did give us some idea where tom's didn't. As for the comment where tom has 2. Why woudl I read that article after reading anand's? I glanced over it and there's obviously less info at tom's. No indication of performance at all.Well, actually if you read their review, it says they got two proconfigured rigs to bench, they just couldn't give us the exact numbers, which seems to be the case with Anand as well.
ATI?s drivers have always been their weakness and, unfortunately, it does not look like much has changed with the R300. On the positive side, we didn?t encounter any performance, compatibility or image quality issues with the current build of the R300 drivers during our time with it. The card and its drivers ran through our entire benchmark suite just fine; but it is obvious that a significant amount of time has been wasted by redesigning the R300 drivers and we hope that no issues crop up in other games, though it is hard to believe that they will not.
Originally posted by: Mday
sweeeeeeeet board.
I have some gripes with the way the article is written. Anand contradicts himself frequently (mostly when he talks of ati's past problems).
ATI?s drivers have always been their weakness and, unfortunately, it does not look like much has changed with the R300. On the positive side, we didn?t encounter any performance, compatibility or image quality issues with the current build of the R300 drivers during our time with it. The card and its drivers ran through our entire benchmark suite just fine; but it is obvious that a significant amount of time has been wasted by redesigning the R300 drivers and we hope that no issues crop up in other games, though it is hard to believe that they will not.
This is one example. First he says (or implied if you want) that the problems with drivers still exists with the r300, then he stated he encountered no problems. If problems do exist, he should have mentioned somethings, if no problems were encountered, then he cannot say that the drivers issue still plagues the r300 (obviously driver problems exist, it's a given for any set of drivers from any company).
Driver redesign is a very important part of a maturing product line. Any engineer who sees problems must be willing to start over from the beginning. Even if months or years of work has to be scrapped.
When ATI showed us the Radeon 8500, they promised that they would finally be moving to a Unified Driver Architecture (UDA) like NVIDIA. But after conversing with one of ATI?s software engineers, we have learned that the R300?s DirectX drivers are completely new.
For starters, they are not based off of the Radeon 8500?s DX drivers, which means that the move to a UDA back with the Radeon 8500 was never really made since the next-generation architecture cannot use the codebase from the previous generation UDA. The benefit of this is that a number of the DirectX problems ATI had in the past should now be fixed. That benefit is also a significant downside because anything that was fixed in the old drivers may now be broken in the new R300 drivers. ATI has told us that the R300?s DirectX drivers will be the basis for the next-generation UDA for future chips; all we can say to this is that for ATI?s sake, they had better be.
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Yeah screw THG, All Hail AT!!! woot!
Much as I hate to ruin the party, I am probably not the only one out there thinking nVidia is gonna see the benchmarks on this card, and start working their butts off to try and outdo it. They still have 2 and a half months before NV30 is coming out. Who thinks they WON'T make a serious effort to boost performance on their card. In fact who is to say that their card isn't already BETTER than Radeon 9700? Such is our dilemma Although upgrading from my GF2 Pro, I wouldn't mind either card, I'll prolly go for the cheaper one/better OC out there
Originally posted by: Aquaman
Didn't Anand say that the earliest the NV30 will be out is November? For Nvidia's sake I hope they get it out soon. There's nothing as good as the smooth buttery taste of competition
Cheers,
Aquaman
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Originally posted by: Aquaman
Didn't Anand say that the earliest the NV30 will be out is November? For Nvidia's sake I hope they get it out soon. There's nothing as good as the smooth buttery taste of competition
Cheers,
Aquaman
Hey, I was loading up the last 2 pages when I wrote that, I was too lazy to edit it out, so sue me :/
guess you only read the r250 article, try the r300 one and come back when you are doneOriginally posted by: Slacker
Are we reading the same article? it is slower all around than the geforce4 in all the fps tests and only 2.5% faster in fsaa?
would you get excited if your boss gave you a 2.5% raise in pay?
The Emperor has no clothes!
Originally posted by: Slacker
Are we reading the same article? it is slower all around than the geforce4 in all the fps tests and only 2.5% faster in fsaa?
would you get excited if your boss gave you a 2.5% raise in pay?
The Emperor has no clothes!