R9 280, R9 380 or gtx 960?

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Zodiark1593

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That's true of most older games now, but due to most games being console ports many games are just becoming heavy on memory. As I said, it's short-sighted to believe this because many things which affect VRAM usage have little to no effect on GPU load, such as textures. It's just safer to spend that extra money based on the direction games appear to be heading in.

I tend to agree, though the price for a 4 GB GTX 960 is seriously not worth it compared to the AMD competition. If you need CUDA and want the 4 GB, I'd really recommend biting the bullet for the 970.
 
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Techhog

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My PSU model is the Corsair CX500M, I plan to play modern AAA titles such as The Witcher 3, GTA V, Dying Light etc. And on a scale of 1-10 I would give power consumption importance a 8/9-10, It's very important to me, and if I have to sacrifice 10 fps for it, then so be it. And OC headroom should be considered as well.

Then go for the the 960 4GB. That's a good budget PSU though, and would still have headroom for overclocking almost any single GPU. OC headroom isn't a factor at all, really. Since you're concerned about power consumption, I'd guess that you don't want to overvolt so a 960 might be faster overclocked. What is the specific reason that power consumption is a huge concern to you, though?
 
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Teizo

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That's USD. His budget is $300 CAD. This is way out of that budget.

Realized that after I posted it, but I left it to counter what Russian Sensation posted for others who are viewing the thread to see.
 

Hi-Fi Man

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Man, just looked at exchange rates, why are graphics cards so much more in Canada than the U.S.?

I second the 960 4GiB though especially since you plan to keep it for awhile. Once you overclock that card it pulls ahead of the 380, 285, etc. pack and still uses less power.
 

secretagent

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Then go for the the 960 4GB. That's a good budget PSU though, and would still have headroom for overclocking almost any single GPU. OC headroom isn't a factor at all, really. Since you're concerned about power consumption, I'd guess that you don't want to overvolt so a 960 might be faster overclocked. What is the specific reason that power consumption is a huge concern to you, though?
Power over where I live is quite expensive, and I would like to keep my power-bill down whenever possible, with the heater on and such during the winter and whatnot. Speaking of overvolting, does that mean increasing the voltage of the GPU? It seems pretty obvious, but being a first time builder, I don't know much and would like some clarification. I do not feel comfortable increasing the voltage at all on my card, as I am new to this. Also, what do you mean by "In that case, it seems a bit counter-productive to overclock in the first place..." if I plan to play for 4-5 hrs?
 

secretagent

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Also, I plan to buy this card by December. Are there any cards that are planned to be released by then that would be a good choice for me, or should I wait until boxing day to buy, or will the items be sold out in the few seconds that it's in stock? (Or don't worry about either option and just buy whichever card I go with asap?)
 

rgallant

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Power over where I live is quite expensive, and I would like to keep my power-bill down whenever possible, with the heater on and such during the winter and whatnot. Speaking of overvolting, does that mean increasing the voltage of the GPU? It seems pretty obvious, but being a first time builder, I don't know much and would like some clarification. I do not feel comfortable increasing the voltage at all on my card, as I am new to this. Also, what do you mean by "In that case, it seems a bit counter-productive to overclock in the first place..." if I plan to play for 4-5 hrs?

just saying
if you have a tou meter its only 8 cents per KW 7pm to 7am
http://www.ontarioenergyboard.ca/OEB/Consumers/Electricity/Electricity+Prices

= cheap
also why need a heater as the gpu if using that many watts will add that to the room and less from the heater. no added cost from the gpu imo
 

Techhog

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Power over where I live is quite expensive, and I would like to keep my power-bill down whenever possible, with the heater on and such during the winter and whatnot. Speaking of overvolting, does that mean increasing the voltage of the GPU? It seems pretty obvious, but being a first time builder, I don't know much and would like some clarification. I do not feel comfortable increasing the voltage at all on my card, as I am new to this. Also, what do you mean by "In that case, it seems a bit counter-productive to overclock in the first place..." if I plan to play for 4-5 hrs?

Overclocking increases power consumption. As for the voltage part, typically adding more voltage allows higher overclocks; however, Maxwell GPUs are a bit weird with that so it doesn't always apply to them.
 

secretagent

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also why need a heater as the gpu if using that many watts will add that to the room and less from the heater. no added cost from the gpu imo
My house does not consist of one room, btw, unless my GPU gets so hot that it generates enough heat to vent to the rest of my house. Although that will cost me even more money, and it seems quite dangerous for my GPU, so I'd rather not, but thanks. Oh, and my family of 6 and I use quite a bit of electricity already, and I'm taking a step towards fixing this issue, starting now.
 

secretagent

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I thought overclocking without overvolting lets the GPU use the same amount of power while delivering better performance, and overvolting increased performance, but with added power consumption, I must have been mistaken, thanks for pointing that out.
 

Techhog

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I thought overclocking without overvolting lets the GPU use the same amount of power while delivering better performance, and overvolting increased performance, but with added power consumption, I must have been mistaken, thanks for pointing that out.

If you don't overvolt, the added power consumption is much smaller than if you do. However, nothing is free. That said, we're talking 15% more power consumption at worst so it shouldn't really affect you either way.
 

secretagent

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If you don't overvolt, the added power consumption is much smaller than if you do. However, nothing is free. That said, we're talking 15% more power consumption at worst so it shouldn't really affect you either way.
So if 15% is the worst without overvolting, how bad will it hit me if I do overvolt. I'd like a best case scenario and a worst, because I'd like to know with what I will be dealing with.
 

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You missed the part about the cards being too slow by the time they use more than 2gb of memory. The class of cards 285, 380 gtx960 will be running slow fps when you choose settings over 2gb of memory anyway. You might in some games have to turn down a setting or two but most of the time the cards dont have the raw gpu power to utlize 3 or 4 gb of memory.

The 290 is way overpowered, uses way to much power and runs hot as the sun.

I didn't miss it, in fact I mentioned it specifically. I just don't think you are correct. The bold is just useless hyperbole aftermarket R9 290's run very acceptable temperatures.

I recommend

1 - 290 if you get one within your price range
2 - 970 if you get one within your price range
3 - 380
4 - 960 4GB

Your i3 is fairly new, has pretty robust cores and performs very well against FX chips and even some i5 due to higher clocks. It will have no problem pushing beasts like the 290 / 970 at all.

+1.
 
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Lyfer

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Get this instead:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150706

XFX DD 280 with 3GB of RAM - $150 after MIR. Should OC decently and comes with a lifetime warranty. Other option is used 7950 but they run $120-140 you might as well pony up and get a brand new card. Good 290's are so hard to come by and go quick. Normally you can find a power color...but its power color LOL.
 

Techhog

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Blue_Max

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I wish it was just Graphics Cards...

Very true. It seems like the cost of power supplies has gone through the roof! :'(

Keep an eye on the NCIX sales, some of the Club3D-branded Radeons are VERY well priced - usually the cheapest in Canada!
 

secretagent

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Get this instead:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150706

XFX DD 280 with 3GB of RAM - $150 after MIR. Should OC decently and comes with a lifetime warranty. Other option is used 7950 but they run $120-140 you might as well pony up and get a brand new card. Good 290's are so hard to come by and go quick. Normally you can find a power color...but its power color LOL.
Actually, that price is in USD, and as Techhog and I mentioned before, I'm in Canada, and the price of that card (if it's even available in Canada) will be $290 without tax (and $330 CAD with tax) Thanks for the suggestion though!
 
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secretagent

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Very true. It seems like the cost of power supplies has gone through the roof! :'(

Keep an eye on the NCIX sales, some of the Club3D-branded Radeons are VERY well priced - usually the cheapest in Canada!
Actually more like everything in Canada! One Canadian dollar is $0.76 USD. It's madness.
 

secretagent

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How did the CAD get so weak?
I'm not too sure. It's the lowest it's ever been since 2004. It may be on purpose to get big name companies to move over here (kinda like how Burger King did) and "could lure U.S. tourists to Canada" as the financial post said, but it's not looking good so far, we appear to just be heading downhill. I do hope things change quite soon though, and for the better too.
 
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