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That may be the most expensive ferry ride in the history of ferry rides, no thank you #nevarforgetsail over Lake Ontario and pick it up.
That may be the most expensive ferry ride in the history of ferry rides, no thank you #nevarforgetsail over Lake Ontario and pick it up.
Actually more like everything in Canada! One Canadian dollar is $0.76 USD. It's madness.
Yeah, I do understand that, and I get that I can build a PC that is the same price as a console, but will perform just as well in games as a console could, and there won't be much of a gain gaming wise. Still, you have to consider things like other things a computer can do besides gaming, such as video editing, easily browsing the internet, and not to mention doing spreadsheets, typing out documents and those things. Either way, I'm more "I built a computer before you did" kinda guy than "My Graphics and fps are slightly better than yours" kinda guy, but that's not important.
Well, I kinda meant "Buy a 'good for todays standards'" 4Gb card now, and in a year, slap on another one of the same card, and make it "good for todays standards" system again, because todays standards will probably become a year ago's standards in a year. Sorry for the confusion. Now that we are on the same page, is it still a bad idea?
Great point. I'm also stuck with an i3-4170 and a 60Hz 1080p monitor for at least 3 years, so now that I look at it, it really isn't the best option for me. Seems like it's just best to go with a mid-high end single GPU option now than a multi-GPU option. Thanks!Was just saying haha. I mean you PC game for whatever reason you do.
But because you're then putting yourself into dual card issues. Since you only support CF, you're in a worse situation since you have to deal with gameworks. Ontop of that, the games that will be coming out with DX12, may not take the time to implement CF/SLI into their games as it's still something that's being worked on.
Personally, I'm going CF down the line because I already have planned out what games I will play and know they support CF. I also will NOT play a game that doesn't support the cards I'm currently using. There are tons of games out there, if you don't support my current setup, I'll wait til you do, or wait til a single card solution can run the game at the settings I want. But if you just HAVE to play a new game that comes out, and it doesn't support SLI/CF, then it really does suck if you actually play new games. I don't, so I couldn't care less.
In short, I wouldn't use it as a "value" upgrade. You either need CF/SLI, or you don't. It's not really a "Value" upgrade further down the line in that price bracket. At that point, you're better off just selling your card, and picking up a faster used card.
It does appear that the AMD cards are the outlying winners when it comes to sheer performance/price and the slightly higher power consumption doesn't justify not going with an AMD card. Then there are things like PhysX, TXAA, GSync and other Nvidia-only stuff. Are those things enough to justify going with a 960 over a 380? What does AMD have to offer that counters the Nvidia-only stuff?
Was just saying haha. I mean you PC game for whatever reason you do.
Also, a couple other questions. What is the difference between the R9 285, R9 280X, and the R9 280? I'm guessing the R9 380 is better than all of these, right? Which one would be the best purchase? What about buying used, is it a good idea? Also, would the tables turn in favor of Nvidia if I were to buy a 970 or a 290?
nVIDIA drivers have lower CPU overhead under Direct3D 11 and below
What's lower cpu overhead? Does that mean that lower end cpu's perform better with it? That would be helpful, considering I have an i3-4170
Also, a couple other questions. What is the difference between the R9 285, R9 280X, and the R9 280? I'm guessing the R9 380 is better than all of these, right? Which one would be the best purchase? What about buying used, is it a good idea? Also, would the tables turn in favor of Nvidia if I were to buy a 970 or a 290?
It's not 250W of extra power though
You're talking about features you can't use. Physx will cripple you on an i3. Gsync and freesync are both vendors... Txaa will again not be worth the perf hit and it's not like there aren't forms of aa you can use including vsr/dsr which I think is superior to anything out there (although again perf hit).I think whatever answers I get will probably decide which manufacturer I will go with.
Right. Though a 3.7GHz Haswell is not slow, like c2d or amd apu.
Are there many such games?though your CPU is only slow in games using more than 2-3 threads.
290 is cheaper and faster so no. And has a real 4gb vram. I wouldn't get a 970 even for the slightly lower power consumption (which won't help when you oc your 970 anyway).Also, a couple other questions. What is the difference between the R9 285, R9 280X, and the R9 280? I'm guessing the R9 380 is better than all of these, right? Which one would be the best purchase? What about buying used, is it a good idea? Also, would the tables turn in favor of Nvidia if I were to buy a 970 or a 290?
I never said 'extra" power......gtx960 overclocked 165watts vs 380 overclocked @ 250 watts is a big difference. Heats up your case and your room faster. For about the same price the gtx960 is the better deal especially overclocked and with a SLOWER cpu.
Are there many such games?
That isn't a slower CPU, though
Your kidding right?
Reviews use overclocked 4690's or 4790's. Look up AMD cpu driver overhead. With slower cpu's a gtx960 is faster than a r9 280, 285 or 380. When a 960 is overclocked its faster without the driver overhead anyway. They are the best overclocking card out. 99% hit 1500 core.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/GeForce-GTX-960-Overclocking-Report-13-Cards-Tested
"First, the 1576 MHz maximum Boost clock is 33.7% faster than the "typical" Boost clock of 1178 MHz on the reference GTX 960 specifications"
Second, how does the overclock actually scale in terms of performance
I added more to my post, I was editing.
Here is another reason for the gtx960. Power consumption...105 watts less when overclocked.!
"Power usage is another factor to consider with this video card. We have put together a table here showing the overclocked power results."
"The new MSI GeForce GTX 960 GAMING 2G video card overclocked still draws less power than every other video card at default power. The efficiency and power usage is simply amazing and will lessen the burden of power demand on any computer build."
"The MSI GeForce GTX 960 GAMING is an amazing overclocking machine. Custom video cards from add-in-board partners will be popular for enthusiasts looking to get the most out of their purchase"
I made my point and I don't exaggerate.
311W vs 233W = 78W difference in DX-11 games,We are using a custom retail MSI GTX 960 for testing, so these are custom card power numbers, not reference.