R9 290 or GTX780 ??

[BallaTheFeared]

Thanks to balla's reminder that I can downscale in Nvidia control panel, I've been running benches against published 780 Ti results. I'm seeing that my 780 overclocked is about 3-9% over a stock 780 Ti, probably the higher end of that in some games due to the relative ROP bottleneck of the Ti. I'm sure the 780 Ti pulls more ahead in 1080p, where it can better use its 25% hardware advantage.

That $620 780 Ti is still pretty tempting.

What clocks are you hitting?

I'm seeing a bit more than that, faster than the stock Ti, slower than the Ti GHz.

 

[jj109]

What clocks are you hitting?

I'm seeing a bit more than that, faster than the stock Ti, slower than the Ti GHz.

I'm doing 1280/6300 with an edited bios that gives me the last boost +12mv bin. I'm sure the memory speed is holding me back.

 

[Piklar]

290s and 290X are continuously in stock at or slightly above MSRP, but they go OOS very quickly. The ones in stock at absurd prices are there to catch the truly desperate.

Amazon has had Radeon 290s @ $43x.xx in and out multiple times over the past few days alone. Newegg had at least a dozen Sapphire Tri-X 290s @ $499.99 base price yesterday.

I could buy 20 290s online and have them here tomorrow if I wanted as all brands are in stock here in New Zealand including the unlockable powercolor 290. They are all reference models however. I guess the crypto coin craze has not impacted supply here yet.. To the original poster if I was in your situation Id go GTX 780>OC>be happy.. If need be SLI another down the road.

 

[el etro]

Oh christ. Let's just skew the truth here. You don't need the SKYNET bios to overclock the GK110. You don't need a different BIOS - No review website obtained a GK110 overclock with a SKYNET BIOS. Most people don't use that nonsense. I can overclock a 780 just fine without it. Review websites are getting 15-20% better than Titan performance with +38mV, which is what all GTX 780s allow out of the box. Some allow more out of the box. Which is what the vast majority of overclockers use. And it doesn't require a different BIOS. It doesn't require any tricks in Afterburner.

Techpowerup tested nearly 10 factory overclocked aftermarket 780s with all of them being 14-20.2% faster than Titan after overclocking. With +38mV. No SKYNET bios required. No afterburner tricks required. Just the +38mV which is what ALL STOCK 780s allow. Hardwarecanucks? same thing. +38mV. No skynet BIOS. No afterburner tricks. Guru3d? Same thing. I could go on here. Point is, hardly anyone uses the SKYNET BIOS except LN2 or water overclockers who are going for world records.

As far as "voltage neutered" kepler cards, that's pretty hilarious. I seem to remember nearly every GHz edition 7970/7950 being voltage locked. That definitely wasn't voltage neutered though.

I don't disagree about your claims of perfect/near perfect scaling of the 780s, i disagree about your claims of goldensampling with all GTX 780s in the retails.

Hope this topic survive one or two weeks in order to bring to it a reference r9 290 results from my friend's card.

 

[BertolomeoDiaz]

I forgot how easy it was to downsample with Nvidia.

that´s what i was selling as my most beloved nvidia feature in several posts

especially if one uses 1080p 60Hz monitor with a powerful card like 780, downsampling is almost like a must do

many people never tried it, i assume, it looks great

you just have to "create" the wanted resolution in the nvidia setup tool that can be opened with right click on desktop

 

[IEC]

I just got my Sapphire 290 Tri-X cards. In preliminary overclocking, I've hit 1200/1650 stable on the first card but only 1060/1600 on the second. Stock clocks are 1000/1300 vs reference 290s @ 947/1250. RAM is Hynix vs my XFX 290 Reference which has Elpida.

Sapphire Radeon R9 290 Tri-X @ 1200/1650 on an i5-3570k (stock) w/8GB RAM:

 

[Silverforce11]

I just got my Sapphire 290 Tri-X cards. In preliminary overclocking, I've hit 1200/1650 stable on the first card but only 1060/1600 on the second. Stock clocks are 1000/1300 vs reference 290s @ 947/1250. RAM is Hynix vs my XFX 290 Reference which has Elpida.

Sapphire Radeon R9 290 Tri-X @ 1200/1650 on an i5-3570k (stock) w/8GB RAM:

Can you check the VRM temps for us?

I'm about to grab a bunch of R290 custom models, not sure which to pick for solid mining results.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Sapphire Radeon R9 290 Tri-X @ 1200/1650 on an i5-3570k (stock) w/8GB RAM:

Glad you could join us, can't wait for you to add to our results!

That said...

Really should have gone for more vram /\

 

[YBS1]

I just wanted to point out something I've seen multiple posts comment upon. That is the warranty voiding custom 780 BIOS mods, that's not entirely true. At least with the Classified (maybe other vendor's models, maybe not), EVGA has stated running a custom BIOS in place of the LN2 BIOS will not void the warranty.

 

[IEC]

Can you check the VRM temps for us?

I'm about to grab a bunch of R290 custom models, not sure which to pick for solid mining results.

Top card (hottest card in a multi GPU setup) is 70C Core/87C VRM1/63C VRM2 last I checked. 825kH/s at 960/1300.

Bottom card is about 12C cooler on all the measurements. Note that the fans are around 2500RPM/2000RPM respectively and I believe 100% is over 3500RPM.

 

[rtsurfer]

I just got my Sapphire 290 Tri-X cards. In preliminary overclocking, I've hit 1200/1650 stable on the first card but only 1060/1600 on the second. Stock clocks are 1000/1300 vs reference 290s @ 947/1250. RAM is Hynix vs my XFX 290 Reference which has Elpida.

Sapphire Radeon R9 290 Tri-X @ 1200/1650 on an i5-3570k (stock) w/8GB RAM:

Please do more Benchmarks than that.

 

[IEC]

Glad you could join us, can't wait for you to add to our results!

That said...

Really should have gone for more vram /\

If I buy a GTX 780 and take it out of the box, will I get as good results as you?

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Anything is possible.

 

[IEC]

Please do more Benchmarks than that.

Thus the words: "In preliminary overclocking" in my post? I just got the cards, haven't had time to do more than some stability testing and Valley runs. More to come eventually, but not until after New Year's at the earliest.

 

[IEC]

Anything is possible.

With my terrible luck OCing (my 3570k won't go above 4.1GHz) I'd probably get the 780 that doesn't OC... I lose the OC lottery 9 times out of 10.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

You went 1 for 2 on your 290s, chance favors the bold!

I really failed miserably guessing the vram clocks, undershot it considerably.

Was really hoping to catch up to Grooveriding and his epic Classified.

 

[IEC]

You went 1 for 2 on your 290s, chance favors the bold!

1 for 4 including my reference 290s.

 

[rtsurfer]

Thus the words: "In preliminary overclocking" in my post? I just got the cards, haven't had time to do more than some stability testing and Valley runs. More to come eventually, but not until after New Year's at the earliest.

Sorry man.
Didnt want to rush you.

It just that I think I ve seen that Uniengine favours NVIDIA cards.

As such it was a bad preliminary result to post considering the current atmosphere of this thread.

You can take your time though.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

1 for 4 including my reference 290s.

Ohh, more details!

What were the clocks on your reference cards?

 

[Silverforce11]

If I buy a GTX 780 and take it out of the box, will I get as good results as you?

No you won't, even if you had a massive 780 OC, you need a 5Ghz Haswell... or whatever he is running it at.

 

[IEC]

Glad you could join us, can't wait for you to add to our results!

That said...

Really should have gone for more vram /\

What's your 4670k clocked at, and what's your RAM/other specs? Also, what were the clocks on your card vs stock?

I'm running a stock 3570k @ 3.4GHz with 8GB DDR3-1600 so I think that might be holding me back a bit...

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Its not, 1.5 fps at most don't let them fool you.

Single anyways, cf yeah that's a problem.

 

[IEC]

Its not, 1.5 fps at most don't let them fool you.

Single anyways, cf yeah that's a problem.

I'll be running crossfire. Any references on CPU scaling?

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Not as good as it could be unless you're going 4k or triple+.

Valley tops out for me at...

Well here you go: CPU test

 

[jj109]

I just wanted to point out something I've seen multiple posts comment upon. That is the warranty voiding custom 780 BIOS mods, that's not entirely true. At least with the Classified (maybe other vendor's models, maybe not), EVGA has stated running a custom BIOS in place of the LN2 BIOS will not void the warranty.

What's the difference between voiding the warranty through improper use (i.e. hilariously high voltages for TSMC 22nm) and voiding the warranty through improper use (i.e. custom vBIOS)?