All over europe the 290/290X are in large stocks and with MSRP or below MSRP prices (When you account for VAT.).
This is not the case in the UK, stock is starting to slowly come in but there's certainly not masses of the cards in Europe - 290's are very rare and the 290x's available are mostly the ones with reference coolers. The 290's available with custom coolers are generally being sold with a huge markup although some 290x's are creeping in now with custom coolers at normal prices. The standard prices here are considerably higher than the in the US, in some cases still higher than with current price gouging.
John
AMD isn't doing any of the reaming. The prices of the chips and PCBs have not changed. The AIB partners (Sapphire, MSI, etc.) aren't selling for higher either - it's only the retailers and e-tailers who are pricing their cards high that are profiting.
Well yeah, that's why I don't buy from etailers. Newegg especially.If you're going to hate on somebody, hate on Newegg, Tiger Direct, etc. They are the ones "gouging".
So why are prices still high on the cards months later? Saying Nvidia cards are selling out just as often as the AMD cards is pure bull; when I build for my clients I've yet to see an out of stock Nvidia card for months and I always see R9's OOS. Why? Because there really isn't any competition. You either get AMD cards and mine, or pay the same amount and get a Nvidia card for gaming. Nvidia is content with where they are at and is enjoying the 500$ a card just to beat old crap from the 500 and 600 series. AMD doesn't have a choice and lowering prices right now isn't an option.I've bought six 290s in the past two months and I didn't pay more than $20 premium for them. I have one on backorder now - paid $464 for a Sapphire Tri-X 290. Estimated backorder time was 8 days at the time I placed the order.
I'd say they have more to do with the crunch than you are understanding. For AMD, it's been months since these cards came out and they are still sold out. AMD's explanation is legit; everyone is buying up AMD cards because of cryptocurrency craze going on. Now can you explain why Nvidia has been sitting on almost the same design for 3 years now charging $500+ dollars? Again, they aren't entirely to blame but I would not be amazed if Nvidia is scaling back production to not flood the market with cheap cards. Replacing my 580 from almost 2 years ago would be a 760 and that's almost 300$. I got an amazing deal on it, but I paid under 400$ for my 580 and right now that could buy me............the performance of a 760. That's not very good compared to past series. I'd typically pay the same amount I paid for the old card on a new card, and get double my performance.
Well yeah, that's why I don't buy from etailers. Newegg especially.
So why are prices still high on the cards months later? Saying Nvidia cards are selling out just as often as the AMD cards is pure bull; when I build for my clients I've yet to see an out of stock Nvidia card for months and I always see R9's OOS. Why? Because there really isn't any competition. You either get AMD cards and mine, or pay the same amount and get a Nvidia card for gaming. Nvidia is content with where they are at and is enjoying the 500$ a card just to beat old crap from the 500 and 600 series. AMD doesn't have a choice and lowering prices right now isn't an option.
AMD is hurt by this. It gives gamers the impression that AMD cards are not a good value anymore. And at the same time, AMD is not earning any of the markup on the cards. They originally priced the cards at those MSRPs and sacrificed margins to compete against Nvidia. The fact is at the markups, the cards are not selling out, so AMD is losing potential sales. If the cards are selling out priced at MSRP and sold on Ebay for higher than MSRP but lower than e-tailer's prices, that means the e-tailers are not selling at market clearing prices.
I can go on newegg right now and load up a cart full for 290x's and 290s. Again this isn't a supply issue, it's etailers overcharging while inventory piles up. Get your information correct before spewing fud...
I'm not sure where you are getting that AMD is losing sales? Anyone who is selling for ~MSRP is back ordered (sold out). Places like Newegg have a pricing system that works purely on demand. They wouldn't have the pricing as high as they do if they weren't selling through their stocks. If they were sitting they would lower prices.
Yeah, I'm sure that's what they are doing. Actually it makes sense to price the cards so high that they don't sell and then if the mining bubble bursts they can then try to flood the market with cheap cards. (said no one)
All over europe the 290/290X are in large stocks and with MSRP or below MSRP prices (When you account for VAT.).
Where exactly are you referring to? Definitely not 'all across Europe', 290's are barely anywhere here and they're mostly well over the RRP. I've been checking some of the PC stores in France, Germany and Italy who are also showing little stock and what there is has been priced well over RRP. While there are odd cards here and there, they're certainly not in 'large stocks' nor below MSRP.
http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/gpu-amd/radeon-r9-290-pci-e-(2560-streams)
http://www.dabs.com/category/compon...d-i-o,graphics-cards/11137-55570000-498470000
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=AMD+R9+290&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3AAMD+R9+290
All out of stock or well over MSRP bar that one on Scan but I don't think it's actually available for order.
John
http://geizhals.at/?fs=290X&in=
http://www.komplett.dk/search?q=290
http://skinflint.co.uk/?fs=290X&in=
And remember to remove VAT before you compare with MSRP.
As said, they are everywhere and easy to buy under the MSRP.
Did you actually check your links before posting? They show no stock in the UK (there's a typo in your last one, shouldn't be an X) and if you check the ones that show stock, it's an error as the site itself doesn't have stock, the ones in stock on your DK links are well over RRP. You clearly didn't check any of my links which don't show a single R9 290 in stock at RRP from several of the largest computer suppliers in the UK. How you can repeatedly claim there is lots of stock under RRP when even the evidence you've posted proves you wrong (as do mine) is completely bizarre but clearly you have a very different definition of 'in stock' and 'under RRP' to the standard English definition so I'm not going to reply any further to this.
I wish what you said was true but sadly it's completely fabricated.
John
I'm not entirely buying the sold out part on the AMD cards, someone I know works at MemoryExpress and said there's PILES of the 290/290X's, however the lower cost AMD cards like the 270X are ones people have been asking for, probably due to it being capable of pairing with the new A10 7700/7850 CPU's which are also selling decently.
Meanwhile the 780 and 780Ti's are higher in demand for some funny reason, considering the GTX780 can be sold for $20-40 less than the 290.
To be honest, I really don't understand how the tech market works anymore, hard drive prices jumped double when Thailand got flooded over a year ago, and then memory prices jumped up 6 months ago due to a factory fire(?), I remember when 9/11 happened, gas stations around the USA cranked up gas prices minutes after they heard the news.
Fascinating. Excellent prices, too. Too bad I dont have a way to order from a Canadian store. I'm sure now that you've posted that, they'll sell out within a day or 2.
AMD isn't doing any of the reaming. The prices of the chips and PCBs have not changed. The AIB partners (Sapphire, MSI, etc.) aren't selling for higher either - it's only the retailers and e-tailers who are pricing their cards high that are profiting.
If you're going to hate on somebody, hate on Newegg, Tiger Direct, etc. They are the ones "gouging".
Amazon (don't count third-party merchants) and some other large e-tailers have been selling stock near or at MSRP all throughout the past two months. They sell out quickly when they are in stock but they also allow backorders. I've bought six 290s in the past two months and I didn't pay more than $20 premium for them. I have one on backorder now - paid $464 for a Sapphire Tri-X 290. Estimated backorder time was 8 days at the time I placed the order.
Your right, my fault.Check ones with Amazon.com as the seller. Can't find any 280x available but I thought we were talking about 290/290X. DirectCU II 290X can be backordered for $579.00, I'm guessing that's MSRP or below.
Check ones with Amazon.com as the seller. Can't find any 280x available but I thought we were talking about 290/290X. DirectCU II 290X can be backordered for $579.00, I'm guessing that's MSRP or below.
Asus 290X at Amazon is available for pre-order at (or VERY close to) MSRP w/free shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-R9290X-DC...ywords=r9+290x
That's the direction I finally went today since everyone seems to want that much and more for a straight 290 card. The best part is, that if I find something better, I can always cancel or return. Might as well be on the waiting list of a reputable company....
8 Asus 290's for $499.
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-R9290-DC2...9E4T9G05Z0EMJC
I've got this card for $440 from Amazon about a month ago. As long as you don't install the PoS Asus OC tool it runs great. Getting 878kh/s and not to bad at gaming as well
Give it a couple of minutes and they'll be gone. Was showing 7 when I just looked.
Not in the market as I have a DD and a TriX already.