R9 380x reviews and Specifications

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LTC8K6

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If they'd introduced it as the 285X back when, it would have the same performance today, at a lower price.

Do we have any DX12 game testing?
 

master_shake_

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i like this graph.

it's kinda interesting to see how well gcn has aged compared to kepler.

look at the 780 v 7970ghz.

remember when the titan decimated the competition?

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i am not really wowed by this card.

should i be?
 

RussianSensation

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I recommend to not link any GPU review from that site for many years to come until they show objectivity or the site's editor changes.

First, look at the performance difference between R9 280X/R9 290 and GTX960. Now, please take your time to read the conclusion in their GTX960 review on this page. What card is being recommended in this review and which cards are being neglected/ignored for price/performance and VRAM?

Second, take your time to read the conclusion in their R9 380X review. What cards are being recommended in the review now?

Have you noticed something that strikes you as incredibly odd between those reviews yet? :sneaky:

When the author of a professional review site goes out of his way to ignore VRAM limits, ignores price/performance of competing AMD cards in an NV review but then goes out of his way to recommend gamers spend more for superior price/performance cards like the GTX970, do you think this blatant inconsistency is a quality of a professional objective reviewer?

Would a professional objective reviewer remove Dirt Showdown because it highly favours one brand but then use Project CARS in reviews that highly favours the other brand (only to remove it later due to pressure from readers)? Would a professional objective reviewer spend 1.5 years using nV-developed FCAT to demolish HD7000 cards for frame times but ignore poor frame times of Fermi, and early launch Maxwell SLI frame times issues? I'll let you contemplate that.

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i am not really wowed by this card.

should i be?

You shouldn't be wowed, but if this card has $20 MIRs moving it closer to $209, it's the clear winner in the $170-220 space where NV's line-up consists of the extremely weak GTX960 2-4GB cards. Right now with $200 R9 280X and $220 R9 290, of course a $230-249 R9 380X isn't a good deal.

Remember the launch prices of R9 390/390X? They weren't a good deal vs. 290/290X but right now a $275-280 R9 390 is arguably in the top 2 of the best cards in the mid-range, along with the 970. When R9 380X drops to $180-200, GTX960 would need to drop even more, which is a win-win for consumers.
 
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master_shake_

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I recommend to not link any GPU review from that site for many years to come until they show objectivity or the site's editor changes.

First, look at the performance difference between R9 280X/R9 290 and GTX960. Now, please take your time to read the conclusion in their GTX960 review on this page. What card is being recommended in this review and which cards are being neglected/ignored for price/performance and VRAM?

Second, take your time to read the conclusion in their R9 380X review. What cards are being recommended in the review now?

Have you noticed something that strikes you as incredibly odd between those reviews yet? :sneaky:

When the author of a professional review site goes out of his way to ignore VRAM limits, ignores price/performance of competing AMD cards in an NV review but then goes out of his way to recommend gamers spend more for superior price/performance cards like the GTX970, do you think this blatant inconsistency is a quality of a professional objective reviewer?

Would a professional objective reviewer remove Dirt Showdown because it highly favours one brand but then use Project CARS in reviews that highly favours the other brand (only to remove it later due to pressure from readers)? Would a professional objective reviewer spend 1.5 years using nV-developed FCAT to demolish HD7000 cards for frame times but ignore poor frame times of Fermi, and early launch Maxwell SLI frame times issues? I'll let you contemplate that.

pcper review = grain of salt.

i like my reviews from tpu.

also i feel a 960ti is on the horizon.

gotta fill that hole between 960 and 970.
 
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RussianSensation

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Madpacket

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So close to pulling the trigger... I would be upgrading from a 6850 D: Wait..or buy

Americans so lucky

That's stupid cheap. Everyone harps on the ref cards but I loved the two I owned. Ran 24/7/365 for a year straight mining coins and still worked perfect afterwards. Blower fans last forever (as long as you dust them out once every 6 months), one even fully unlocked to 290X (the ref cards have dual bios so no risk in trying) plus the design of the VRM's allows these cards to undervolt a *lot* and the energy and noise savings are dramatic. Like up to 75-100W savings. Even at default clocks and undervolted these cards will perform admirably.

IMHO pick one of these up before they disappear altogether. Heck, you could even pickup two and crossfire them as they work well for that over non ref designs.

TLDR:

I really regret selling my reference 290's, pick one of these up before they disappear.
 
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Here is Sweclocker's new performance index. Instead of posting one-off games benchmarks, here's the full suite all in one:



Neck and neck with the 280X yet 30 dollars more expensive. Terrible value.

Also just a paltry 5% improvement over the 380 (stock to stock comparison). Even lower than my (optimistic) 10-15% suggestion.

The thing is there's no stock 380, they are all custom cards and they run at higher clocks.

The appropriate comparison is 380 custom to 380X custom.

69 -> 76 is ~10%. Which is actually spot on if you all paid attention to how GCN behaves when comparison 2nd and 1st tier SKU of each chip.

7950 -> 7970 at the same clocks, the difference is very mild, 5-10%. Same for R290 -> R290X. Same back at the 5850 -> 5870!

The cut down SKU has always been great bang for buck, there's simply no precedent to say the top SKU should offer great value.

At $229 its a decent choice between everything else, for people who can't afford higher (sale prices in US for 970, 290, 390 aren't always applicable elsewhere).
 
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Newegg has a 2-day Flash Sale on R9 290 for $180. Add a $1-2 filler, get $25 off $200 with AMEX and this card is ~$157. Even after buying an after-market AIO to cool it, still way better deal than any card in the $150-240 space right now.

You don't actually need a custom cooler, just undervolt the beast and it'll drop 50W and the blower will stay at a more sane noise profile.

That's my own experience with a whole bunch of them during the mining craze. In gaming loads with undervolt, no sweat. They only got loud whilst mining.

For perspective, R290 with undervolt uses similar power to the 380X while being much faster. $157 is insanity. They are still going for near full retail prices here, a few custom R290 left, $400 AUD, with 970s & 390 being more expensive!!
 
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RussianSensation

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So close to pulling the trigger... I would be upgrading from a 6850 D: Wait..or buy

Depends on what games you play, what CPU you have, what PSU you have, what resolution you are gaming at. Also, if you are bothered by this card operating at 95C or its high noise levels, it's not for you unless you plan on replacing the cooler. If you need more GPU horsepower and none of these things are a deterrent, I am having a very hard time expecting anything as powerful as an R9 290 for $160ish for a while.

Newegg even has some decent fillers like 32GB USB3.0 flash drive or 32GB microSDHC for $8-$8.50.
http://slickdeals.net/f/8261295-32gb-adata-dashdrive-uv128-usb-3-0-flash-drive-8-50-more

If this deal is still going tomorrow ,I'm picking one up.

Says it's until Friday, which I presume is Friday mid-night or until the deals runs out.

You don't actually need a custom cooler, just undervolt the beast and it'll drop 50W and the blower will stay at a more sane noise profile.

That's my own experience with a whole bunch of them during the mining craze. In gaming loads with undervolt, no sweat. They only got loud whilst mining.

For perspective, R290 with undervolt uses similar power to the 380X while being much faster.

I think this is one of those cards that would benefit a lot from a TIM swap. I wouldn't be surprised if good TIM knocked off 5-6*C off the temps at same fan speeds or in effect you could operate at the same 95C at lower fan speed.

Normally Sapphire makes great cards but I think they flopped with the 380X. Compared to the DirectCU TPU tested, the Sapphire Nitro R9 380X uses as much power as a 390. That's a FAIL.



vs.


http://www.techspot.com/review/1093-amd-radeon-380x/page7.html



That's why it's still very important that professional reviewers continue to do GPU SKU round-ups every generation, something I wish AT started doing regularly again.
 
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railven

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So it basically took AMD and NV 3 years to release their 2012 top tier cards for >$200?

Woof, the bottom is terrible!
 
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So it basically took AMD and NV 3 years to release their 2012 top tier cards for >$200?

Woof, the bottom is terrible!

The top is pretty terrible too, since the prices keep on going up for meager performance increases. It's the new normal.

Fully expecting mid-range Pascal or Artic Island SKUs, $750 for ~980Ti +20% performance. People will upgrade in droves for that!
 

railven

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The top is pretty terrible too, since the prices keep on going up for meager performance increases. It's the new normal.

The top was always terrible, but people buying the top aren't complaining about price / performance

Well unless you got stuck with the Overclocker's Dream.
 
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The top was always terrible, but people buying the top aren't complaining about price / performance

Well unless you got stuck with the Overclocker's Dream.

Paying that much & not caring about $ for a gaming rig, may as well go all out and get the 4K experience with multi-GPUs.
 

railven

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Paying that much & not caring about $ for a gaming rig, may as well go all out and get the 4K experience with multi-GPUs.

Both companies soured me on multi-GPU. Not going through that barrel of fun ever again.

Once one card can handle 4K, I'll join the club. For now, I'm all set
 
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Both companies soured me on multi-GPU. Not going through that barrel of fun ever again.

Once one card can handle 4K, I'll join the club. For now, I'm all set

You'll like this then: https://steamcommunity.com/app/208650/discussions/0/490124466457324535/#c485622866434485906

Shameless AAA studio abandons SLI/CF support because it's too much effort.

UE4 doesn't support multi-GPU either. If you want a single GPU for 4K gaming at ultra quality, it'll be a long wait.
 
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Normally Sapphire makes great cards but I think they flopped with the 380X. Compared to the DirectCU TPU tested, the Sapphire Nitro R9 380X uses as much power as a 390. That's a FAIL.



vs.


http://www.techspot.com/review/1093-amd-radeon-380x/page7.html



That's why it's still very important that professional reviewers continue to do GPU SKU round-ups every generation, something I wish AT started doing regularly again.

Same for the normal 380, some SKUs were very power efficient while others were horrible. Lots of variations in these brands.

Likewise for Fury, Asus's was easily 50W less power usage than the other ones giving it equal perf/w to the 980 per [H]'s review.
 

96Firebird

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Comparing power consumption across review sites with different setups and different monitoring equipment?

For shame.
 
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