R9 380x rumor and speculation thread

LTC8K6

Lifer
Mar 10, 2004
28,520
1,575
126
I hope it's full Tonga, just so I can claim that AMD heard me whining. :biggrin:
 

Shehriazad

Senior member
Nov 3, 2014
555
2
46
If it's not full Tonga (like I expected the moment I heard 380X was not a launch card) I'm gonna Riot...no...not really. But Full Tonga is the only thing that should be in that slot imho.
 

Rvenger

Elite Member <br> Super Moderator <br> Video Cards
Apr 6, 2004
6,283
5
81
I really hope Tahiti isn't making a 3rd appearance like Pitcairn. Full Tonga would be awesome.
 

Headfoot

Diamond Member
Feb 28, 2008
4,444
641
126
If its a full Tahiti chip respin, it would be the 4th time!! 7970->7970 Ghz->280X->(380x?)

I mean, it was obviously a great chip. But its even less excusable than the Pitcairn rehashes.

It really needs to be full Tonga
 

tential

Diamond Member
May 13, 2008
7,348
642
121
If its a full Tahiti chip respin, it would be the 4th time!! 7970->7970 Ghz->280X->(380x?)

I mean, it was obviously a great chip. But its even less excusable than the Pitcairn rehashes.

It really needs to be full Tonga
If it's still competitive why not? I only upgraded my 7950 because I can and it was used deal. Otherwise, those cards are still useful today.
 

n0x1ous

Platinum Member
Sep 9, 2010
2,572
248
106
If it's still competitive why not? I only upgraded my 7950 because I can and it was used deal. Otherwise, those cards are still useful today.

They should not be releasing any new parts that aren't compatible with Freesync
 

Headfoot

Diamond Member
Feb 28, 2008
4,444
641
126
If it's still competitive why not? I only upgraded my 7950 because I can and it was used deal. Otherwise, those cards are still useful today.

280x is fine as 280x. Yet another rehash of a 2012 chip in 2015 is one too many in my book
 

crisium

Platinum Member
Aug 19, 2001
2,643
615
136
What do people use as evidence that a 384-bit Tonga could possibly exist? Apple gets it at 256-bit, and I'd expect a desktop version to as well, much like the 285/380.
 

LTC8K6

Lifer
Mar 10, 2004
28,520
1,575
126
What do people use as evidence that a 384-bit Tonga could possibly exist? Apple gets it at 256-bit, and I'd expect a desktop version to as well, much like the 285/380.

Yes, why would Apple only get a 256bit card if it could be a 384bit card?

That's a 50% increase in memory BW, which with GCN1.2 probably works out to more than 50% effectively.
 

Gikaseixas

Platinum Member
Jul 1, 2004
2,836
218
106
What if 380x is full Tonga and performs at around 90% of a 390. That would be an interesting card at $239.99
 

burninatortech4

Senior member
Jan 29, 2014
677
345
136
I would love to see something like this...

Let's hope it is, and not some GCN 1.1 rehash.
I think the worry was it was a Tahiti rehash (GCN 1.0). I seriously doubt it's anything but Tonga (GCN 1.2). The memory interface (and amount) is the wildcard here.
 

RussianSensation

Elite Member
Sep 5, 2003
19,458
765
126
280x is fine as 280x. Yet another rehash of a 2012 chip in 2015 is one too many in my book

380X sounds like a full Tonga, not a refresh of a 280X.

Sooner or later 280X/290/290X will all dry up. In Canada, the UK, and as I understand it most of Europe, you basically can't even find these cards anymore. AMD will need something to compete with GTX950/960/960 4GB cards.

NV currently has a massive 50% performance gap between its 960 and 970 cards.



Without spending any $$ on GPU redesign, I can see how 370X (1.1-1.15Ghz Pitcairn) and 380X (Fully unlocked Tonga) can find buyers.

TechPowerup was one of the few sites that had the b*lls to state what many people have been saying since GTX960 launched in Jan of 2015:

"NVIDIA simply cannot get the pricing of its sub-$300 lineup right and continues to offer nothing compelling until the $310 GeForce GTX 970. The company may yet make a ton of money with their mid-range line-up, but that's only because of its better sales-force." ~ TPU

AMD should have taken advantage of NV's horrible price/performance and product positioning in the sub-$300 space but they were asleep at the wheel for the last 9 months, just waiting until all the 285/280X/290/290X cards sell out. These cards have long sold out in some worldwide markets but AMD hasn't provided a proper replacement in the $200-300 space.

If a full Tonga with higher clocks can get 125-130% on that TPU chart at 1080P, NV will have to introduce a 960Ti or lower prices on 960 4GB to compete. The crazy part is R9 285 Tonga came out September 2, 2014 and it's been more than 12 months but AMD still wouldn't launch a full 2048 shader Tonga with 4GB of VRAM. Talk about dropping the ball.

I can't see how prioritizing the full Tonga for Apple was a great move because most of those products sell in small numbers vs. the $200-250 desktop discrete GPU market segment which probably gets 20%+ of all GPU sales.
 

Elixer

Lifer
May 7, 2002
10,371
762
126
If a full Tonga with higher clocks can get 125-130% on that TPU chart at 1080P, NV will have to introduce a 960Ti or lower prices on 960 4GB to compete. The crazy part is R9 285 Tonga came out September 2, 2014 and it's been more than 12 months but AMD still wouldn't launch a full 2048 shader Tonga with 4GB of VRAM. Talk about dropping the ball.

I can't see how prioritizing the full Tonga for Apple was a great move because most of those products sell in small numbers vs. the $200-250 desktop discrete GPU market segment which probably gets 20%+ of all GPU sales.
I don't think there is anyone here that can understand why there never was full tonga being sold. Even if it was a timed-exclusive to Apple, Apple isn't known to pay top dollar for that, so, you know that AMD just had bragging rights, and that was it, doubt they made any profit over the deal.

I am not even sure it was a full tonga for Apple, from what I have read, the Radeon R9 M295X was made for mobile scene, so, it most likely was throttled.
Here are the results for Farcry 4, ultra settings @1080

So, if they actually unleash a full tonga, then, it could very well tie the 290 in some things, or within 1-4fps.
 

gamervivek

Senior member
Jan 17, 2011
490
53
91
Feb 19, 2009
10,457
10
76
Does it matter if its 384 or 256 bit bus? It's bandwidth compression tech and fast GDDR5 is ample for the performance target, potentially 380 + 15%? That can't be a bandwidth limited scenario.

AMD launching it finally means volume on Apple has slowed down where they have enough for the PC market.

Is Apple updating its lineup for Skylake? Nano would be a great option.
 

Glo.

Diamond Member
Apr 25, 2015
5,802
4,776
136
Last edited:
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |