R9 390X Cooling

[james1701]

It would be nice if they made adjustable fittings so you could hook it up to existing water cooling and do away with the AIO rad.

Looks like case manufacturers are going to have to catch up and design cases for gpu's with AIO's and the ability to have 2 or 4 of them in a system without modification.

 

[el etro]

So, the rumors of AMD building a bigger chip seems to be right...

 

[ShintaiDK]

It would be nice if they made adjustable fittings so you could hook it up to existing water cooling and do away with the AIO rad.

Looks like case manufacturers are going to have to catch up and design cases for gpu's with AIO's and the ability to have 2 or 4 of them in a system without modification.

That would be very nice. Because water could make the system more silent as well. And we wouldnt have to worry so much about where the heat output was. But as it stands today, its just too troublesome for some. And not an option at all for some cases.

 

[Maximilian]

That looks sexy!

I don't find it similar to the GTX Titan/780 cooler at all.

It will probably be another bad reference cooler. (Maybe not )

I think it is quite similar, maybe not in looks but in overall design. Its got that solid industrial look the titan cooler has.

Besides, if you're gonna copy someone copy someone who did it right. This definitely beats the tacky plastic looks of the previous gen.

 

[Vesku]

If the 390X does share similar cooling to the 295 but in the $500-650 range will we see that as universally praised as the 290X cooling was panned?

Personally, I'd like to see this kind of cooling also available in the second highest single GPU SKU, $350-450, as well. It means whichever settings I personally decide to run at, the card should be quieter than a purely fan based cooling method. Should also be better for overclocking.

 

[jpiniero]

I'm starting to get a little concerned that this is starting to smell like the FX 9 Series. We'll see.

 

[tviceman]

I'm starting to get a little concerned that this is starting to smell like the FX 9 Series. We'll see.

Haha! 10% more performance for 100 watts more power draw!!! I hope not.

 

[monstercameron]

Haha! 10% more performance for 100 watts more power draw!!! I hope not.

I though all we wanted was more and more powerful gfx carrds despite physics?

 

[dn7309]

they can make the shroud look as nice as they want, unless they change their vapor chamber design (does the r9 290x reference had one?) and the fan, it gonna have the same problem.

 

[Silverforce11]

Water is cost, bulkyness etc. Benefit is cooling.

I dont like water either, but its also so hard to fit in MiniITX ^^

I had a few mITX setups, with SUGO SG5/6 from Silverstone, now I also have a Bitfenix Prodigy. You can definitely do AIO water for mITX, they often always have a 120mm radiator slot, use it as exhaust and all that GPU heat = out your case, plus the advantage of an exhaust fan. Win win.

The Prodigy can even fit a proper water cooling setup with 240mm radiator on top. It's quite hilarious how much power you can pack in those cases.

 

[Silverforce11]

Haha! 10% more performance for 100 watts more power draw!!! I hope not.

If all they did was made Hawaii 20-25% bigger, there's already the performance there.

But obviously its not all they did, bandwidth efficiency is boosted, imagine a beefed R290X with better bandwidth usage and more ROPs, a pair of these will be great for 4K and a single one will be more than enough for 1440/1600p.

 

[Rvenger]

But is ROPs a bottleneck on Hawaii cards now?

 

[3DVagabond]

That would be very nice. Because water could make the system more silent as well. And we wouldnt have to worry so much about where the heat output was. But as it stands today, its just too troublesome for some. And not an option at all for some cases.

how many cases don't have a spot to mount a 120mm fan and how hard is it?

 

[Alatar]

Asetek press release says shipping of the AIOs will start in H1 2015 for the GPU deal.

So 2 months or so into 2015 is probably the very earliest possible launch. My 2c would be that at that point it's more likely to be competing against GM200. Or if it's not it will be very shortly after.

 

[MathMan]

The R295X2 cooler is very good at what it does, and this one will be too, I'm sure.

The problem is: it's way more expensive than regular cooling solutions, and I don't see a company do one unless it's strictly needed. If a ~420mm2 gm204 based GTX980 can run within a 170W power envelope, then a smaller than, say, 600mm2 gm200 followup should be able to run in an envelope of 250W. Exotic cooling solution not required.

That >500mm2 die from AMD may still not have the power efficiency improvements that it desperately needs.

 

[james1701]

how many cases don't have a spot to mount a 120mm fan and how hard is it?

It's more about how many people run more than one GPU. Sure it would not be a problem for a single card. It's been over 5 years since I have ran just one card.

 

[Shmee]

Perhaps there will be good aftermarket coolers, like the vaporX, for those who want crossfire solutions. You are right though that for crossfire that may be too many 120mm fans

 

[biostud]

While a AIO adds to the price, the total price of top tier cards does not have to increase much, if you look in percentages and compared to OC editions of the top cards. If a better cooling increases price by ~10-15%, but also allow for ~10-15% better clock rate and lower noise I think it's a good trade-off.

 

[Jacky60]

For some reason a lot of end users frown on water cooling. I guess it's more out of fear of a failure. Seems pretty simple to implement and very little risk if done correctly.

Back when I was using real water I only had one failure. A XSPC bay reservoir that decided to leak from the seam. The rig survived just fine as I would only run distilled water w/silver coil anyways.

I think you're right, I am perfectly happy to install a factory sealed unit but the prospect of fiddling with a load of water pipes in a rig that cost thousands of pounds checking for leaks etc would fill me with dread. What's more the tedium of having to take it all apart to upgrade or swap parts makes it a no no for me.

 

[Martrox]

I've got a pair of R9 290's with Kraken G10/AIO's in a modded NZXT Source case. The CPU is also cooled by an AIO. Both R9 290's draw through the front, CPU draws from back. 2 - 140's draw air out on top of case. It's not that hard, people........

 

[Silverforce11]

It's more about how many people run more than one GPU. Sure it would not be a problem for a single card. It's been over 5 years since I have ran just one card.

Water cooling is even more of an advantage for users who run multi cards. Having open designs dump 250-300W each card into your closed case is not a good idea, requiring a lot of case fans and it becomes too noisy. The top card often always chokes and is not stable with OCs.

With an AIO water setup, all that heat = out your case.

 

[Kenmitch]

It's more about how many people run more than one GPU. Sure it would not be a problem for a single card. It's been over 5 years since I have ran just one card.

My Arc Mini could suck up a pair in Xfire and still allow me to keep my H100i.

 

[Kenmitch]

I think you're right, I am perfectly happy to install a factory sealed unit but the prospect of fiddling with a load of water pipes in a rig that cost thousands of pounds checking for leaks etc would fill me with dread. What's more the tedium of having to take it all apart to upgrade or swap parts makes it a no no for me.

Real water cooling isn't too expensive unless you go for the bling. It's all the fancy fittings etc. that increase the cost. No bling and no desire for crazy low temps a person could probably get a duel GPU loop including the CPU for around $600 US or so. Bling looks nice but isn't a requirement.

 

[sxr7171]

Looks like I may have to go AMD next gen.

 

[SolMiester]

LOL, its the Titan industrial design with red team colours.....Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery