The only issue I see is that the Democrats grandstanded with political theater loaded questions and Ross quite arrogantly and unethically dodged answering them.
The only issue I see is that the Democrats grandstanded with political theater loaded questions and Ross quite arrogantly and unethically dodged answering them.It's already been explained what the issue is and what the census bureau's findings were. You've failed to address it and I'm positive you've ignored it purposefully.
Voter fraud is a political myth.It's the reason behind it.
Do you think Trump's voter fraud commission was inherently wrong?
The federal government is not responsible for the financial repercussions of misguided local sanctuary policies. This census question is only controversial because Trump has made immigration central to his political rise and survival.
There is nothing inherently wrong. It is a simple demographic data point.
Chicken and egg argument. Urban centers have high demand for cheap exploitable labor, either to support local services or as part of the supply chain that provides the goods they purchase. Our nation initially satisfied this demand with slavery. We abolished slavery and replaced that demand with exploitable cheap labor from the poorest parts of Europe. When those immigrants started to unionize and organize, we replaced them with labor from China, Mexico and Latin America.Deflection & dishonesty. Sanctuary city status has nothing to do with it. It's about the apportionment of political power. Neither LA nor Houston have the power to enforce immigration law but both have large illegal populations. Most illegals live in the largest metro areas. Both have the obligation to provide services to the people who live there. Both receive federal funds on a per person basis.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/03/11/us-metro-areas-unauthorized-immigrants/
If the GOP can manipulate the census to show fewer people then their share of federal benefits is reduced.
Chicken and egg argument. Urban centers have high demand for cheap exploitable labor, either to support local services or as part of the supply chain that provides the goods they purchase. Our nation initially satisfied this demand with slavery. We abolished slavery and replaced that demand with exploitable cheap labor from the poorest parts of Europe. When those immigrants started to unionize and organize, we replaced them with labor from China, Mexico and Latin America.
The federal government should not subsidize poor policy. It should create a manageable guest worker program. Texas and California should pay a price for accomodating and perpetuating this cycle.
Chicken and egg argument. Urban centers have high demand for cheap exploitable labor, either to support local services or as part of the supply chain that provides the goods they purchase. Our nation initially satisfied this demand with slavery. We abolished slavery and replaced that demand with exploitable cheap labor from the poorest parts of Europe. When those immigrants started to unionize and organize, we replaced them with labor from China, Mexico and Latin America.
The federal government should not subsidize poor policy. It should create a manageable guest worker program. Texas and California should pay a price for accomodating and perpetuating this cycle.
They may be powerless to enforce immigration law, but they can certainly undermine it. A demographic question does not undermine the census.More dishonesty. You didn't even click the link. State & local govts are powerless to enforce immigration law. The people who live there don't deserve to be punished for failures of the federal govt. Attempting to manipulate the Census to do so is utterly shameful & un-American.
What am I saying? I keep forgetting that the leadership of the GOP has no shame, no sense of decency at all. It's reflected in most everything they do.
I was in the military. I also lived abroad in countries and societies that don’t face the immigration dilemma that we face, and who were also more restrictive about granting citizenship.You were in the military correct?
Maybe you can explain why the military does not find and deport illegal immigrants?
The military has its own police, transportation, and is supposed to defend the US from foreign invaders.
Is it because they benefit from illegal immigrants joining to try and obtain citizenship? Or is there a more legitimate reason the military doesn’t become involved with deportation?
Once you ponder the answer to those questions consider whether some of the answers might specifically or generically apply to state and local governments as well.
They may be powerless to enforce immigration law, but they can certainly undermine it. A demographic question does not undermine the census.
I was in the military. I also lived abroad in countries and societies that don’t face the immigration dilemma that we face, and who were also more restrictive about granting citizenship.
If called upon, the military would do the things you suggest, but it is not their core mission, nor is it for the military to decide how its civilian leadership chooses to deploy it.
Yes it does if it leads to an undercount which according to the government this question will.A demographic question does not undermine the census.
The only reason there is the risk of an undercount is because Democrats have linked the census question to fear of deportation. It is a data point, nothing more. If facts have a liberal bias, Democrats should be proactively encouraging participation in the census, unless of course they fear the political implications of what those numbers truly are.Yes it does if it leads to an undercount which according to the government this question will.
Yes it does if it leads to an undercount which according to the government this question will.
This is your feels and not the facts as determined by the cenus bureau.The only reason there is the risk of an undercount is because Democrats have linked the census question to fear of deportation. It is a data point, nothing more. If facts have a liberal bias, Democrats should be proactively encouraging participation in the census, unless of course they fear the political implications of what those numbers truly are.
When we talk about racism we usually talk about white people hating the black, brown, yellow etc people but never the other way round, why is that? Surley racism works both ways. I mean take parts of deepest Africa, why is it they only (according to the pictures) eat only white meat, I mean people?
It certainly is a mixed up world...............
The only reason there is the risk of an undercount is because Democrats have linked the census question to fear of deportation. It is a data point, nothing more. If facts have a liberal bias, Democrats should be proactively encouraging participation in the census, unless of course they fear the political implications of what those numbers truly are.
They may be powerless to enforce immigration law, but they can certainly undermine it. A demographic question does not undermine the census.
My feelings are irrelevant.I'll take a citation to your obvious feels.
Man youre slow. No. My point is they have every right given to them under the constitution to ask their immigration status. And should. Or are illegal immigrants not people?
My feelings are irrelevant.
Democrats: Don’t answer the racist census question that is a deportation trap!
Hysterics ensue
Democrats: The census is going to under represent our districts!
And now, blame the Democrats for what the GOP is trying to accomplish.
I mean, WTF do you think? That undocumented residents can't figure it out for themselves?
"Fill out this govt form to tell us where you live & that you're illegal. Nothing bad will come of it. Forget all that hateful raving from the Supreme Leader, OK? It don't mean nuthin'."
They should not ask the question, this is common sense. Research clearly shows that asking that question drastically lowers response rates in those communities, making the census less accurate. Since the purpose of the census is to count people and not citizens, making it less accurate is bad. End of story.
The reason the Trump administration wants to ask it is obvious, they WANT lower participation from those communities because they tend to live in areas that vote democratic. Lower the counts, lower the representation.
This is also why they are getting in trouble for lying to Congress and others, you can’t come out and say your plan is to purposefully make the census worse to help you politically.
And a truly lame double down. It goes like this-
Illegals: I'm not participating in the census because it might help them deport me.
GOP: That's the way we want it!
You forgot the rest of the convo:
Illegals: I refuse to answer!
GOP: thats fine, you'll still be counted.
The full truth changes your talking point significantly.