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Lifer
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Sorry, but while that may be true, that shouldn't apply to the situation in your OP. Every passenger had the freedom to get off, and the driver had the freedom to kick the idiot woman off too. There should have been zero laws broken. Saying what you want when you want, no matter how stupid, should be a right anyone and everyone has. If you say something stupid you have to deal with the reactions on your own.

It was absolutely childish for the government to step in.

We disagree, in the UK we have laws that prevent people from shouting hate speech. We like it that way, it works, I don't really get why everyone should be able to say anything. They plainly shouldn't.
 

Bulk Beef

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It's different over here. We value freedom from things aswell.
That really is the difference. We value the right to be offended. You value the right to not be offended.

Although, way too many people here don't seem to understand the difference. Fortunately for the rest of us, they seem to be concentrated in the Bay area.
 

Broheim

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Sorry, but while that may be true, that shouldn't apply to the situation in your OP. Every passenger had the freedom to get off, and the driver had the freedom to kick the idiot woman off too. There should have been zero laws broken. Saying what you want when you want, no matter how stupid, should be a right anyone and everyone has. If you say something stupid you have to deal with the reactions on your own.

It was absolutely childish for the government to step in.

Then why isn't that allowed in the US. Since you americans seem to think of yourselves as the champions of free speech.
 

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Lifer
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That really is the difference. We value the right to be offended. You value the right to not be offended.

Although, way too many people here don't seem to understand the difference. Fortunately for the rest of us, they seem to be concentrated in the Bay area.

That's exactly it, perfect explanation.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Sorry, but while that may be true, that shouldn't apply to the situation in your OP. Every passenger had the freedom to get off, and the driver had the freedom to kick the idiot woman off too. There should have been zero laws broken. Saying what you want when you want, no matter how stupid, should be a right anyone and everyone has. If you say something stupid you have to deal with the reactions on your own.

It was absolutely childish for the government to step in.

Feel free to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater or make comments about blowing up the @#$%! aircraft on your next flight.
 

DayLaPaul

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Sorry, but while that may be true, that shouldn't apply to the situation in your OP. Every passenger had the freedom to get off, and the driver had the freedom to kick the idiot woman off too. There should have been zero laws broken. Saying what you want when you want, no matter how stupid, should be a right anyone and everyone has. If you say something stupid you have to deal with the reactions on your own.

It was absolutely childish for the government to step in.

Yes, but even free speech has it's limits. The popular example cited here in America is yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater. It appears that Britain puts racist speech on that same level.

Of course, I don't feel that racism is something that can be legislated out of existence, but that's another story.
 

Beev

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Then why isn't that allowed in the US. Since you americans seem to think of yourselves as the champions of free speech.

Endangering other people by pretending there's a real threat is different than being a racist bigot. Shouting racist remarks hurts no one. Again, I fully agree the woman is a moron, but she flat out should not have been arrested.

And trust me, I don't give two turtle shits about America. I just live here.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Endangering other people by pretending there's a real threat is different than being a racist bigot. Shouting racist remarks hurts no one. Again, I fully agree the woman is a moron, but she flat out should not have been arrested.

And trust me, I don't give two turtle shits about America. I just live here.

You would be incorrect again. People aren't born racist, they are taught it. Gee, I wonder how they're taught it...
 

Beev

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You would be incorrect again. People aren't born racist, they are taught it. Gee, I wonder how they're taught it...

...incorrect about what?

Do you mean the part where I said shouting racist remarks hurts no one? What, you think racism would disappear if people simply weren't allowed to be racist in public? Then it would just be worse at home and the kids would be just as bad. No change.
 

CFP

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Racism. I've met prejudice and racism, covert and overt respectively, my whole life.
 
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BoomerD

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He's probably talking about English, and American *ism towards the Irish. It still goes on today in England. Not so much in America I don't think. We like the Irish now. I do anyway.

I like the Irish...great bunch of drunks.
 

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He's probably talking about English, and American *ism towards the Irish. It still goes on today in England. Not so much in America I don't think. We like the Irish now. I do anyway.

Yeah we take the piss out the irish... and the french... and the welsh. But it's not racism.
 

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We disagree, in the UK we have laws that prevent people from shouting hate speech. We like it that way, it works, I don't really get why everyone should be able to say anything. They plainly shouldn't.

OK . Does it go something like this . GOD save the Queen . Thats cool right . But down with the imperialist queen Thats jail time or worse . Screw that, and the britts.
 

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Lifer
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OK . Does it go something like this . GOD save the Queen . Thats cool right . But down with the imperialist queen Thats jail time or worse . Screw that, and the britts.

This is the third post you've made in this thread where I have literally no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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...incorrect about what?

Do you mean the part where I said shouting racist remarks hurts no one? What, you think racism would disappear if people simply weren't allowed to be racist in public? Then it would just be worse at home and the kids would be just as bad. No change.

Are you truly 2 dimensional or, do you only play a cartoon online?
‘For evil to triumph, all it takes is for good men to do nothing’.
Laws are made to curb behavior not, to control thought. Laws will not curb racism but, they will keep acceptance from well meaning sheep from creating an environment which promotes racism.

The danger in racism is not that a particular group may become 2nd class citizens or worse. The danger lays in the predominate society thinking there may be some value or acceptability in their dogma.
 
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