Radeon 5700 Reviews Thread

[BFG10K]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt/
https://www.computerbase.de/2019-07/radeon-rx-5700-xt-test/
https://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-and-rx-5700-review
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx_5700-rx_5700_xt,6216.html
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-rx-5700-and-5700-xt-review,1.html

No more driver crossfire support. Good move, and I'm not surprised. Glad AMD's not wasting precious resources on such garbage. Should be the final nail in the coffin for multi-GPU in general.

 

[PhonakV30]

my god , 92'c ?!! so you can't put 220w on 7nm 251mm2, it's just hard cap.

 

[amrnuke]

That's hot.

But FPS/$, power efficiency all look good.

I'll be anxiously awaiting 3rd party cards.

 

[tviceman]

The 5700 XT wins decisively in Strange Brigade and BFV, everything else is largely trading blows vs. the RTX 2060 S and RTX 2070. Power consumption is higher than the RTX line, which is disappointing given that it's a much smaller chip a full node ahead. At $399, it's a toss up between the 2060 S and 5700 XT. If you play Strange Brigade or BFV heavily, the 5700 XT is the much better buy. If you want ray tracing, better thermals, lower noise, and lower power consumption the 2060 S is the better buy. Interestingly, the 2070 and 2060 S gain at 4k. In the past, it was usually AMD that gained ground as resolutions went up.

The 5700 does a better job of beating the vanilla RTX 2060 and with good power consumption. At that battle, the 5700 is the better buy unless someone absolutely needs RT. The 5700 is still absurdly loud though.

Navi has absolutely zero overclocking headroom.

 

[fleshconsumed]

I've got three monitors and it's disappointing to see multi-monitor idle twice as high as nVidia. Funny to see much hated Vega56 provide better performance per dollar too. I loathe the midrange price creep so I'll be waiting till the end of the year to see if there are any sales.

 

[The Alias]

my god , 92'c ?!! so you can't put 220w on 7nm 251mm2, it's just hard cap.

You forget it's a blower card.

 

[mopardude87]

Not sure why but the second i saw this thread this song popped right into my head

 

[tviceman]

I've got three monitors and it's disappointing to see multi-monitor idle twice as high as nVidia. Funny to see much hated Vega56 provide better performance per dollar too. I loathe the midrange price creep so I'll be waiting till the end of the year to see if there are any sales.

Previous generation cards often offer better perf/$ when they're on the way out. Navi is giving better perf/$ than what Vega 56 and 64 were at release, and ultimately that is what should be compared vs. last gen - the starting lines for each product.

 

[The Alias]

12% slower than rtx 2070s dead stock before the overclocked models come in which will inevitably have more oc headroom. This is a stellar position for AMD to be in. I wouldn't be surprised if we see an OC model come really close to a 2070s.

 

[mopardude87]

Holy heck those TPU BF5 numbers are hot. Would it be fair to assume there will similar performance gains in BF4/ BF1? I play BF4 mainly and occasionally some BF1. Its those titles and GTA V that will drive my decision yet no one is giving away GTA V numbers yet. Guess i will go and check out power consumption and temp numbers while i wait for more reviews to crop up. I kind of just went right for performance numbers lol.

 

[crisium]

I'll post it here too. Good for quick at a glance comparison to contemporary cards. These are average performance indexes at TPU, Sweclockers (DX11 only), Computerbase at 1440p:

 

[mopardude87]

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...-review-head-to-head-with-nvidia-super?page=2 Has my BF1 numbers with included video. Its keeping up with the 2070 Super at 4k at least while being cheaper.

 

[ao_ika_red]

A little reminder that custom card will be available around August. So until then, 5700 sales number won't be good. Thanks to ref. blower cooler and noise-optimised fan curve.

 

[Bouowmx]

Anybody can find a review using AIDA64 GPGPU? I want to see if Navi has full-rate INT32 throughput.

Also, Radeon RX 5700 is broke as hell: fan profile broken (fan speed decreases with higher temperatures!) and no dynamic voltage-frequency (every frequency is running at ~1.0 V)

 

[mopardude87]

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-rx-5700-and-5700-xt-review,21.html GTA v numbers! About time too.

 

[Mopetar]

The 5700 looks like a reasonable card. Still at least $50 more expensive than I'd like, but hopefully the increased competition drives prices down further once the third party cards hit shelves.

The GTA V numbers that @mopardude87 posted are certainly interesting. At 1440p the RX 5700 has almost the exact same performance as Radeon VII. I think more than anything else, Navi just shows how bad of a card that thing was or how badly AMD needed a new architecture.

 

[mopardude87]

The 5700 looks like a reasonable card. Still at least $50 more expensive than I'd like, but hopefully the increased competition drives prices down further once the third party cards hit shelves.

The GTA V numbers that @mopardude87 posted are certainly interesting. At 1440p the RX 5700 has almost the exact same performance as Radeon VII. I think more than anything else, Navi just shows how bad of a card that thing was or how badly AMD needed a new architecture.

The 1080p 5700 numbers are broken though, quite a bit slower then the 1070. Kind of hoping these are horrible day one drivers cause even the 5700XT at 4k is slightly slower then the 2060 Super. Given this is the title i play that needs a boost over anything else the most, these numbers are looking VERY bad.

 

[exquisitechar]

Equal to Turing FLOP for FLOP, nice. Why is 4K performance so bad, though?

 

[JDG1980]

Both Navi cards appear to adhere to their rated TDP. But it's pretty clear that the 5700 is closer to what this chip was really designed to do, and that the 5700 XT is a factory-overclocked card (as we've come to expect from AMD). The 5700 XT perf/watt numbers are truly shameful - beaten by some Nvidia Pascal cards despite that not even being Nvidia's newest architecture, and AMD being one full node ahead.

Also, multi-monitor power consumption is terrible (probably a driver/firmware issue), and according to TPU, the drivers are bad and immature. Will RTG ever learn?

Crossfire is dropped, which no one cares about, but if they're aggressively dropping what they consider "legacy" technology, then OpenGL support (which matters a lot for emulators) is probably not any better than on Polaris/Vega and may well be worse. But we'll need to see testing to confirm this.

The CPU division keeps hitting it out of the park; the GPU division continues to disappoint.

 

[amenx]

Seems temps are all over the place.
Guru3d: 76c: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_rx_5700_and_5700_xt_review,8.html
Compterbase.de: 85c https://www.computerbase.de/2019-07/radeon-rx-5700-xt-test/3/#diagramm-temperatur
TPU as noted 92c.

 

[mohit9206]

Noisy, poor overclocking and no backplate is a tough sell. Aftermarket cards will fix this but will also cost more. 5700 should have been $329 or $299 for AMDs reference card and good quality aftermarket cards should have come in at slightly higher price. I don't think anyone should be buying the reference card for 349.

 

[coercitiv]

Aftermarket cards will fix this but will also cost more.

I wouldn't bet much on that, the higher cost... not the fixing.

 

[mohit9206]

I wouldn't bet much on that, the higher cost... not the fixing.

I don't think cards like Gaming X and Strixx will come in at Msrp. Sapphire Pulse might though. Don't know about other brands. Amd could really do with a Navi+Ryzen combo right now.

 

[Shivansps]

Performance is all over the place, the RX5700XT is sometimes beating the 2700S and in anothers is below the 2060s.

The power numbers on 5700XT are telling the whole story here, they pushed that card too hard to target the RTX 2070 and justify the price increase. We need to see AIB prices because no one will be getting those blower ref cards. $350 while overpriced is borderline aceptable for the RX5700, $400 for AIB is not. And is not about going to buy Nvidia instead, is about not buying anything at these prices.

 

[coercitiv]

I don't think cards like Gaming X and Strixx will come in at Msrp.

MSRP is as volatile as global temps nowadays, let's wait and see what Nvidia makes of AMD blower cards threatening their dual fan FE counterparts.