Radeon 5700 Reviews Thread

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GodisanAtheist

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AMD launches, always so much fun! Everything that follows is meant to be read with a **** eating grin, not out of true anger or frustration:

First and foremost, the launch was good in the sense that this is a respectable showing in metrics (Performance/Power) at the worst case scenario we're going to get for the Navi arch and we have nowhere to go up but up.

On the other hand, I completely agree with Railven: WTF is AMD doing with its launches. Who handles these things, a pack of mentally challenged clowns? Again we're dealing with garbage tier blowers (I actually bought the AMD line regarding the dent and better airflow and lower noise and blah blah blah). Do *I* care, personally? No, I'm never going to buy a card with a blower and there will be options down the line. However, AMD is just 290x'ing itself again here and all anyone is going to remember is that the 5700 series runs hot and loud even after AIBs bring it under control. Some QC in this department would be greatly appreciated.

Conspiracy theorist time: AMD's AIB's are on lifesupport after the last couple years of AMD launches and they're pushing for crap cooling on launch cards to make their options look better by comparison

And then the drivers. A couple of the reviews I read hit on the shoddy driver point, and it was apparently bad enough that some like TPU and Anandtech went out of their way to dedicate a couple paragraphs to the issues. I mean, are you ****ing me? While it doesn't sound like the drivers really affecting the games much (although there were some mentions of weirdness in some games) maybe It would have been better for AMD to just flat out disable overclocking in the launch drivers (with a blurb about the uncapped boost) and include some notes about drivers not being ready for compute (with some blurb about Navi being a gaming focused arch) than launch the drivers with portions being unstable. Might have been the result of new drivers dropping right in the middle of the launch testing, resulting in some rushing on the part of the testers, but still you never hear about that kind of thing during NV launches.

Overall, looks like we got some good cards and a solid new arch out of AMD... if you sift past the SOP crapfest launch that AMD is so fond (I guess?) of putting on at this point.
I eagerly await the upcoming AIB launches, as well as small Navi and the further on "big" Navi. Exciting times.
 

amenx

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Steve does the benchmarks for Techpowerup as well, so essentially he sends them the results he gets and he is the only reviewer to get such absurdly high temperatures. The highest temperature ANY of the other reviewers got was 85C, most getting around 75-80C for the RX 5700XT. This leads me to conclude that Steve's card/s might have been slightly damaged during shipping, leading to the thermal paste losing a bit of connectivity between the cooler and gpu.

So hardware unboxed and techpowerup use the SAME results, its essentially the ONLY review that has such high temperatures.
First time I hear this. TPU is a major site and do not think they would outsource their reviews. Source of info?
 

guachi

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On the plus side, I wear headphones while gaming. I have a blower 480 and it doesn't really bother me but I expect better from a 5700XT that costs $160 more.

I'll just pretend that AIB cards will also cost $400 (lol) because at $400, a fully functional 5700XT is a dynamite card.

It's great at 1440 and good enough at 2160 many could save $100 over the 2070S.
 

railven

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Digital Foundry noted for BF5 it took their test system with 5700 XT 3+ minutes to load a level versus the RTX 2060 taking only 1+ minute.


Wonder what could cause this, if it's even card/driver related. I have come across a bunch of reddit posts regarding texture issues with AMD cards and some Frostbite engine games. Wonder if AMD fixed this and the result is longer load times.
 

extra

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Navi looks...okay.

AMD really dropped the ball on the launch it looks like. Temps look okay other than those two reviews (which someone here says is really just the one amazing guy sending his results to TPU as well and I have no reason not to believe them). Noise looks annoying though. Yuck.

Buggy release drivers though which is bad as AMD will be stuck with that reputation even after they improve.

As for the benchmarks...what I got from it is that Navi is incredibly spastic.

Sometimes it's as good as a 2060 and sometimes it's as good as a 2080. So I guess it does average about 2070 performance which is about right but still. It seems like the silicon really can do it, the drivers are holding it back. But being a new architecture I won't hold my breath for how long it will take AMD to fix the drivers up. Could be next week. Could be 15 months. I won't be upgrading from my 1070. I wouldn't buy Nvidia's currently overpriced stuff either for what it's worth. Just underwhelming all around, but I guess at least Nvidia gave us new features.
 

Guru

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First time I hear this. TPU is a major site and do not think they would outsource their reviews. Source of info?
sorry, my bad, confused techspot and techpowerup. It is indeed two different reviewers.
 
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Picked up a 5700XT, alongside a Ryzen 3600. I think it's the first time I've ever picked up any hardware on launch day, and it's at a point in my life where I probably care far less than I used to. But I've been meaning to upgrade from my ivy bridge/RX480 4GB setup, and Microcenter's Ryzen 3000/Mobo/Navi combo deal was too good to pass up, especially at a time where DDR4 RAM prices are finally falling to reasonable levels. $100 off the combo sucked me in.

Not super thrilled about the blower, but with headphones I suspect I'll be alright. Hopefully AMD gets its shit together to iron over all the release issues for both Ryzen AND Navi.
 

EXCellR8

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...Not super thrilled about the blower, but with headphones I suspect I'll be alright.

They aren't that bad. Certainly louder than AIO but AMD blowers have improved a bit since the HD and R9 series. They still aren't great but unless it's running >70% duty you're likely to not notice it too much.
 

Udgnim

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was there any review that actually focused & tested the Navi features like Radeon Image Sharpening or Anti-Lag beyond the marketing info provided by AMD?
 

mohit9206

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From the hardware Unboxed video, the most interesting thing to me was the 5700XT being just 9% slower on average than the RTX 2080. Just to remind you again, that was an $800 card last year. I imagine 2080 owners are not feeling too happy right now.Sorry for rubbing salt on your wounds 2080 owners but you had it coming.
 

guachi

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The 2080 Super needs to actually be good and/or cheap. Wonder if it'll be too good/cheap for the Radeon VII to compete with. Heck, I wonder if the Radeon VII can even compete with the 5700XT. Compared to that the Radeon VII should be $550-600.
 

Head1985

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Nobody noticed that AMD locked 5700 so nobody can oc it?Wow just WOW.This most anti consumer move i have seen in dacade.I think it is locked to 1800mhz max.
 

railven

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Nobody noticed that AMD locked 5700 so nobody can oc it?Wow just WOW.This most anti consumer move i have seen in dacade.

I thought I had mentioned that (here? some where? Perhaps to the wife). Yeah, it's tied to the power restrictions that Steve was asking about. AMD is going hard on the product segmentation. I don't blame them though. But as Steve pointed out, odd how on their CPU side they're more than happy to let you OC a CPU to beat a more expensive one.

Me thinks the GPU side is being held responsible to make more monies. IE, the CPU side doesn't want to have to carry them.
 

coercitiv

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Nobody noticed that AMD locked 5700 so nobody can oc it?Wow just WOW.This most anti consumer move i have seen in dacade.I think it is locked to 1800mhz max.
The 5700 XT shouldn't exist as reference (blower) card. RTG needs a cold shower, hope consumers deliver.
 

Head1985

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I dont care about blowers(aib cards are better).But with locked 5700 there is no point in AIB 5700 because it cant be oc at all.How the fuck almost nobody notice this?This is most anti-consumer thing in GPU space of all time.First locked GPU ever so you need buy more expensive one just like intel K CPUs to be able oc it.
 
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psolord

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Wtf , that's exactly what I wanted to ask. I didn't see any 5700 OC results. Boooo AMD.

I really hope they rectify this for the third party cards.
 

DarthKyrie

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Some initial thoughts.

Things I love:

- Plain 5700 at MSRP $349 beats the MSRP $499 Vega64.
- Plain 5700 trades blows with (but is ultimately probably about 5-7% slower than) the 2060 SUPER that costs 15% more.
- The $399 5700XT is <10% slower than the Radeon VII, and about 15% slower than the 2070 SUPER which costs 25% more.
- The $399 5700XT vs the $399 2060 SUPER has a clear winner, and it isn't Nvidia.

Things I hate:

- The noise.
- The heat.

Once we get some products from EVGA, Sapphire, etc I think things are looking really, really good. I'm personally most excited for a potential 5600 line. If they can bring in a 5600 at $249 that beats the 1660 Ti, my money will then be AMD's money. But honestly, the 5700 is a really, really nice value where it sits right now.

If you're waiting on EVGA to make an AMD RX 5700XT you might die before that occurs or we'll have flying cars.
 

kastriot

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i think this card has potential but still immature drivers not utilising new architecture but then again time will tell how things will go.
 

Qwertilot

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Are we sure they’re not going to let AIB versions overclock? For these reference cards with rubbish coolers, you can more or less imagine it.

Also looking at the AT review it looks like the XT already is overclocked as far the power limit on the card will go. As per the comment above you have to think that’s something that shouldn’t have shipped as reference with this cooler.

Harder to imagine locking the AIB cards though when the competition isn’t & does ship faster than reference.
 

IntelUser2000

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And then the drivers. A couple of the reviews I read hit on the shoddy driver point, and it was apparently bad enough that some like TPU and Anandtech went out of their way to dedicate a couple paragraphs to the issues. I mean, are you ****ing me?

Nvidia always had better drivers. Eventually, they become close to the point where its negligible, but the quality of the drivers at launch tells you how good it is.

I had problems with Polaris launch.

I don't think its AMD sucking, its just Nvidia has a really good driver development team.
 

DarthKyrie

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Nvidia always had better drivers. Eventually, they become close to the point where its negligible, but the quality of the drivers at launch tells you how good it is.

I had problems with Polaris launch.

I don't think its AMD sucking, its just Nvidia has a really good driver development team.
It helps that nVidia has probably at triple the number of software people.
 
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