Radeon 5700 Reviews Thread

[IntelUser2000]

It helps that nVidia has probably at triple the number of software people.

The trick is getting the people to do it right. Numbers help, but only if they are organized and focused.

 

[amrnuke]

I think their website makes it fairly clear.
http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/

But that links to TechSpot not TPU.

TPU is a different thing isn't it?

 

[Auer]

From the hardware Unboxed video, the most interesting thing to me was the 5700XT being just 9% slower on average than the RTX 2080. Just to remind you again, that was an $800 card last year. I imagine 2080 owners are not feeling too happy right now.Sorry for rubbing salt on your wounds 2080 owners but you had it coming.

LOL..buying a GPU somehow qualifies people for "had it coming"?

I doubt normal ppl regret owning a RTX card for close to a year now. I know I don't.
Tech moves on, it always does.

If one worries about depreciation, maybe this hobby aint the right one for one's broke ass.

 

[amenx]

I think their website makes it fairly clear.
http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/

A few posts prior:

sorry, my bad, confused techspot and techpowerup. It is indeed two different reviewers.

Yep, Techspot and Hardware Unboxed (not Steve @ GN).

 

[Stuka87]

LOL..buying a GPU somehow qualifies people for "had it coming"?

I doubt normal ppl regret owning a RTX card for close to a year now. I know I don't.
Tech moves on, it always does.

If one worries about depreciation, maybe this hobby aint the right one for one's broke ass.

People that bought 2080's, most likely not. People that bought 2060's that have not even been out for 6 months yet, most likely are. The 2080 being out for roughly 9 months means people are kind of expecting something better to come out after a year. But the fact remains that people that did buy 2080/2070/2060 regardless of how they feel about the cards, got duped by nVidia. But thats already been discussed so will leave that be.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Picked up a 5700XT, alongside a Ryzen 3600. I think it's the first time I've ever picked up any hardware on launch day, and it's at a point in my life where I probably care far less than I used to. But I've been meaning to upgrade from my ivy bridge/RX480 4GB setup, and Microcenter's Ryzen 3000/Mobo/Navi combo deal was too good to pass up, especially at a time where DDR4 RAM prices are finally falling to reasonable levels. $100 off the combo sucked me in.

Not super thrilled about the blower, but with headphones I suspect I'll be alright. Hopefully AMD gets its shit together to iron over all the release issues for both Ryzen AND Navi.

Picked the same combo at newegg, nearest microcenter is 9hrs away, minus mobo, since I will be using a AORUS Elite B450 for now. It has been ages since I bought anything at launch either. I even made the justification about wearing cans too. I will be putting it in a Thor V2 that has a 230mm fan blowing directly on it, so I expect my temps will be improved over what has been reported thanks to the extra active cooling. I have used a blower style 1070 and RX470 in it with good results, so some fan curve tweaking, maybe undervolting? thrown in, should mitigate most the blow dryer effect as it has with past cards.

I weighed the opportunity cost, and I will get a hundred hours or more of use in before the new cards are probably available. I can always eat $50-$75 at that point, and buy the better models. Heck, we spend that on dinner out. Everyone is a Ferengi about hardware prices, but will not blink to spend that money on dinner and a movie. I get far more entertainment from the hardware personally. It is all perspective, and that is mine right now.

 

[ozzy702]

From the hardware Unboxed video, the most interesting thing to me was the 5700XT being just 9% slower on average than the RTX 2080. Just to remind you again, that was an $800 card last year. I imagine 2080 owners are not feeling too happy right now.Sorry for rubbing salt on your wounds 2080 owners but you had it coming.

Meh, that's typically been the case for tech. The 2080 has been out for almost a year now and was a top tier GPU at release, not to mention the crypto-influenced GPU prices throughout 2017 and 2018. It's nice to see some competition in the space for sure but early adopters of top tier tech have always paid the price.

 

[PhonakV30]

AMD really doesn't give a F about Temp.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1148113823137533952

67'c with R9 290 Heatsink.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1148026906991833088

r9 390 Visiontek = under 65'c

 

[IAteYourMother]

I weighed the opportunity cost, and I will get a hundred hours or more of use in before the new cards are probably available. I can always eat $50-$75 at that point, and buy the better models. Heck, we spend that on dinner out. Everyone is a Ferengi about hardware prices, but will not blink to spend that money on dinner and a movie. I get far more entertainment from the hardware personally. It is all perspective, and that is mine right now.

Yep.... When I joined these forums I was in high school. Now that I'm an old man, who knows how much time I have left on this earth

 

[Qwertilot]

It was always going to be thus. The actual power draw - esp on the 5700 - isn't all that large.

So put a good cooler on and you'll get a fairly quiet card.

 

[mopardude87]

The 2080 Super needs to actually be good and/or cheap.

Cheap nope, ahead of everything else but the 2080ti absolutely. Worth the price? Unlikely but its a option i am looking at. Not thrilled with Guru3d or Anandtech with their GTA V results and that game is where i am focusing on maxing out the performance i want to get. At least if i had $400 or less for a gpu Navi looks like a clear choice. Tried for a bit to think of anything else to conclude how i feel personally about Navi as a product to me and all i got atm is" you get what ya pay for" . Keep in mind its my own personal opinion.

Given what i play the TPU really did interest me with these numbers for BF5 but they are the only ones who even bothered to do DX11. I respect they decided to run settings that the mass majority of people do and i give them props. I would like to think these carry over to BF1 which i play quite a bit more then BF5

 

[swilli89]

Picked the same combo at newegg, nearest microcenter is 9hrs away, minus mobo, since I will be using a AORUS Elite B450 for now. It has been ages since I bought anything at launch either. I even made the justification about wearing cans too. I will be putting it in a Thor V2 that has a 230mm fan blowing directly on it, so I expect my temps will be improved over what has been reported thanks to the extra active cooling. I have used a blower style 1070 and RX470 in it with good results, so some fan curve tweaking, maybe undervolting? thrown in, should mitigate most the blow dryer effect as it has with past cards.

I weighed the opportunity cost, and I will get a hundred hours or more of use in before the new cards are probably available. I can always eat $50-$75 at that point, and buy the better models. Heck, we spend that on dinner out. Everyone is a Ferengi about hardware prices, but will not blink to spend that money on dinner and a movie. I get far more entertainment from the hardware personally. It is all perspective, and that is mine right now.

This x 1000! Our hobby, compared to things like cars or drones is super cheap! You spend a few hundred and are locked in (hardware wise) for a few years. Its incredible people agonize over $300 vs 350 when most will putting hundreds or even thousands of hours of their time into it. And like you said, people will go out for drinks or dinner and spend $100 easily, yet turn around and spend hours researching if RAM that is $20 more expensive is worth it.

 

[IntelUser2000]

And like you said, people will go out for drinks or dinner and spend $100 easily, yet turn around and spend hours researching if RAM that is $20 more expensive is worth it.

Maybe you got that wrong. We go for drinks and dinner every week and spend $100 on it, therefore we have to save money on computer parts.

 

[mopardude87]

This x 1000! Our hobby, compared to things like cars or drones is super cheap! You spend a few hundred and are locked in (hardware wise) for a few years. Its incredible people agonize over $300 vs 350 when most will putting hundreds or even thousands of hours of their time into it.

Its not only about that, sometimes it about if you can currently afford the next level up or not as well. I could certainly afford either Navi next month after i pay my bills as it stands. If i i sold off a spare motherboard i got and a power supply i could afford a 2070 Super. If i put my spare cash from August into savings then anything from a 2080 Super downwards will be in my budget in September and i wouldn't even have to sell off my spare parts. Not that i need the spare stuff its going to sit among the hundreds of cords, 775 mobo+ C2D and other odd and end parts. I rather it gone then sit.

Will see how 2080 Super performs, i haven't considered anything over $500 since i purchased the $650 GTX280 in 2008. Luckily i got $150 back on that deal. Someone got fired over there at Frys in Oxnard, Ca for sure. I had the GTX280 in my system a week before reviews even debuted. I went there to buy a 8800 Ultra which was still $700?

 

[Mopetar]

From the hardware Unboxed video, the most interesting thing to me was the 5700XT being just 9% slower on average than the RTX 2080. Just to remind you again, that was an $800 card last year. I imagine 2080 owners are not feeling too happy right now.Sorry for rubbing salt on your wounds 2080 owners but you had it coming.

Did anyone even buy a 2080 though? I feel that if you were in the market to spend that much money, you probably just splurged on the 2080 Ti instead. Neither the 2070 or the 2080 were good value for money so I think people generally avoided them.

The 2080 Super needs to actually be good and/or cheap. Wonder if it'll be too good/cheap for the Radeon VII to compete with. Heck, I wonder if the Radeon VII can even compete with the 5700XT. Compared to that the Radeon VII should be $550-600.

The Radeon VII is already a bad value compared to both the 2070 Super and the 5700 XT. It really shouldn't cost more than $500, but there's no way AMD can sell it for that. It was a miserable product trotted out so they had something to show at CES.

The 2080 Super will probably come in at $700 and just based on the increased cores and clock speed should be 10% better than a 2080. The memory clocks will also be ~10% higher so it shouldn't have any obvious bottlenecks. AMD doesn't have anything to compete against NVidia at that level so it's doubtful that prices will come down as much as they should.

Maybe you got that wrong. We go for drinks and dinner every week and spend $100 on it, therefore we have to save money on computer parts.

I think it's also that researching computer parts and building out systems is fun. Hell, some people probably spend dozens of hours researching this stuff when they won't even actually build a computer.

 

[Janooo]

Forza Horizon 4 is crazy...
https://www.io-tech.fi/artikkelit/testissa-amd-radeon-rx-5700-5700-xt-navi/

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Its not only about that, sometimes it about if you can currently afford the next level up or not as well. I could certainly afford either Navi next month after i pay my bills as it stands. If i i sold off a spare motherboard i got and a power supply i could afford a 2070 Super. If i put my spare cash from August into savings then anything from a 2080 Super downwards will be in my budget in September and i wouldn't even have to sell off my spare parts. Not that i need the spare stuff its going to sit among the hundreds of cords, 775 mobo+ C2D and other odd and end parts. I rather it gone then sit.

Will see how 2080 Super performs, i haven't considered anything over $500 since i purchased the $650 GTX280 in 2008. Luckily i got $150 back on that deal. Someone got fired over there at Frys in Oxnard, Ca for sure. I had the GTX280 in my system a week before reviews even debuted. I went there to buy a 8800 Ultra which was still $700?

Point taken. And for myself, I have to contend with the wife acceptance factor too. I would have bought a 1080ti when they came out and called it good for years, but then the Mrs. would be able to return fire so to speak, and I am not letting that genie out of the bottle. My others interests cannibalize upgrade funds as well. First world problems....

Anyways, I did indeed sell some parts, so I can hide some of the cost, since it is paypal money. </sneaky> I have some more parts to sell too, and it is a positive thing since they find good homes where they can live on.

Anyways, the 5000XT and 3600 should keep me happy for quite a while. I will add a new mobo and faster ram down the line. My WD Black NVME is plenty fast for now, so not going to a new PCIe 4.0 model until much later than the rest of the kit.

The performance and stability look to already be getting improved, so the weeks to come should be a greatly accelerated AMD fine wine technology meme.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Forza Horizon 4 is crazy...
https://www.io-tech.fi/artikkelit/testissa-amd-radeon-rx-5700-5700-xt-navi/
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I think it was Paul's Hardware that showed similar results. I am very interested to know what it is about that game that results in that kind of performance boost.

 

[PontiacGTX]

just wondering, anyone has seen an aida64 benchmark on RX 5700 XT?

 

[Bouowmx]

just wondering, anyone has seen an aida64 benchmark on RX 5700 XT?

I haven't seen one yet. The most relevant search result is me asking the same question

 

[mopardude87]

Point taken. And for myself, I have to contend with the wife acceptance factor too. I would have bought a 1080ti when they came out and called it good for years, but then the Mrs. would be able to return fire so to speak, and I am not letting that genie out of the bottle.

Been married,know all about those approved purchases. Luckily during those years of marriage, the purchases i made were fairly sensible. Same time though cards like gtx570/660/970 made so much more sense then anything else so i had no problems picking those over the top tier stuff.

 

[PontiacGTX]

I haven't seen one yet. The most relevant search result is me asking the same question

I wanted to check if amd had finally improved the 32 bit integer performance

youtu.be/IrKUZoEzAfY?t=385
youtu.be/IrKUZoEzAfY?t=423
youtu.be/IrKUZoEzAfY?t=459

 

[Mopetar]

I think it was Paul's Hardware that showed similar results. I am very interested to know what it is about that game that results in that kind of performance boost.

Probably just a title that's heavily optimized for AMD hardware, which makes a certain amount of sense given it's an Xbox game. But for every game like that which runs really well on AMD hardware, there's one like Ace Combat 7 that runs awful:

There even the Radeon VII (not that it's a great card in general, but point still stands) runs worse than a 2060. That's just how it goes with some titles.

 

[tamz_msc]

Probably just a title that's heavily optimized for AMD hardware, which makes a certain amount of sense given it's an Xbox game. But for every game like that which runs really well on AMD hardware, there's one like Ace Combat 7 that runs awful:

There even the Radeon VII (not that it's a great card in general, but point still stands) runs worse than a 2060. That's just how it goes with some titles.

That's because Ace Combat 7 is an Unreal Engine 4 title. AMD optimization for UE4 has historically been piss poor, unless the game utilizing it is something popular like Fortnite or PUBG. NVIDIA slaughters AMD when it comes to indie titles using UE4, in shooters like Squad/Insurgency Sandstorm or survival games.

 

[gk1951]

DAPUNISHER, my wife of over 45 years and I deal with it this way. She doesn't look at my Newegg bill and I don't look at her Talbot's bill!