In a different thread he said a 290X will beat SLI Titan's in BF4 with Mantle. But, it is clear, he is such an AMD fanboy, even saying Titan must hurt for him.
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290x + Mantle + Bf4 = Ridicule the Titan.
Ridicule = ???
Doubt its 2x
Riducule = Interesting choice of words.
In a different thread he said a 290X will beat SLI Titan's in BF4 with Mantle. But, it is clear, he is such an AMD fanboy, even saying Titan must hurt for him.
I firmly believe that at the maximum settings Titan is capable of running in BF4, two in SLI will be beaten by a single 290X running under Mantle. I have absolutely zero to back that up, it's simply an educated guess. You should be scared though as I don't make these "guesses" lightly.
We don't know the amount of Mantle exploitation BF4 will have. I'm thinking all in fully optimized useage to show the power of GCN/Mantle.
SiliconWars, you really have no idea what you are talking about. So this will be the last post for me on this subject. The following is from an article posted on Nasdaq's website. You may have heard of them:
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/nvidia-will-see-quicker-growth-ahead-on-pc-market-recovery-cm233004
Few highlights:
-Nvidia posted record revenue in fiscal 2013 with a 7% annual increase.
-Nvidia is the market leader in GPUs and we believe its revenue from the PC market will continue rising due to a revival in the PC market,
-Discrete graphics remain the preferred choice for gaming applications, and Nvidia is the market leader in both the discrete desktop and discrete notebook GPU markets
-Nvidia's GeForce is the gamers' choice of GPU by a margin of almost 2:1.
-Accounting for 80% of the market, Nvidia remains the dominant player in professional GPUs.
In summary, any nonpartisan viewer should easily be able to see, that Nvidia is the current market leader in discrete GPU sales by a very comfortable margin.
You're guesses aren't educated. You've yet to post any real Mantle numbers, just marketing PR garbage. Unless you have any real proof of anyone who has seen the Mantle API and worked with it, you are doing nothing but being a fanboy. Your "omg Mantle will give 2x the performance from a slower card than the fastest" is complete garbage.
The problem with believing everything you read on the internet is that most of it is complete and utter bull. At best they are just copying what the read elsewhere or using back of toilet paper math.
I've given you the numbers, I've given you the reasons why. It's up to you whether or not you choose to believe what the ignorant/corrupt financial press tells you or what the actual numbers and reasons are.
AMD sells more gaming-class GPU's than Nvidia. Right now it's very close, by the end of the year when consoles kick in AMD will have a clear lead. This is an absolute fact and not one person can show me the numbers otherwise, or they'd have done so already.
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I'm excited about Mantle's potential but it's not much of a selling point until we see some actual results.
"The problem with using numbers other than I've provided is they can be utter bull; of course mine are 100% accurate." Good argument!
I think the problem with Mantle being a selling point is right after the Mantle slide, you had people in this section claiming Mantle was going to make 7870s get 120 FPS in games Titans are getting 60 FPS.
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Who said that? All these strawmen about mantle is pathetic. If a new game engine from ea can give 20% its a gamechanger. Imagine that amd had 10% profit of their gpu business instead of just 0 like they have had for years. That accounts for a huge difference in this market.
It's a sad, sad indictment of the tech press that none of them even thought to check how much of Nvidia's discrete sales were APU-level before proclaiming Nvidia as the "discrete graphics leader". Well yeah, if your "discrete graphics" are on par with your competitors APU's, what else is gonna happen?
SiliconWars just said a 290X with Mantle will beat Titan SLIs in BF4.
The mantle API is the deciding factor for me, regardless of it living up to the proposed perf add. I like that they are at least trying to address limitations in the PC gaming architecture, where I feel Nvidia is more interested in selling you a second card....which doesn't scale for 80% of games, even if they announce a fancy new profile to download.
Worst case, you'll get just as bad performance on Amd as Nvidia.
But they are basically addressing the "limitations" of the pc gaming by introducing the next glide. If they succeed, they basically lock you into purchasing their cards because Mantle doesn't benefit any other video card architectures but their own. So you get faster speed but only on their cards, if this isn't in the interest of selling you a card, then what is it?
That 7870 to Titan reference was a direct quote from someone on these forums. Sadly, there were quite a few Mantle threads and I'm not sure where the post is, but it was said. SiliconWars just said a 290X with Mantle will beat Titan SLIs in BF4.
I agree a 20% increase in performance is huge, but hitting 20% across the board is a HUGE task.
Worst case, you'll get just as bad performance on Amd as Nvidia.
The point is, selling me a card with some outside of the box thinking is better than selling me a card without. It shows me effort towards advancing the gaming experience. We both know each side is a shareholder motivated institution.
But that's the thing, this is not outside the box thinking. It's a reintroduction of glide, an introduction of a mechanism to lock you into their products. Every company wants to do this if they could, there's no fresh thinking in this. Though I will admit, they were very clever in bringing it about, if it works.
The limitations in the PC gaming architecture you mentioned it earlier? That's the ability to use peripherals from different vendors. They are not advancing the gaming experience, the are advancing the AMD gaming experience. That's a big difference. If it works, that's great for AMD, it was a bold move. But don't make it into something altruistic or noble, it's vendor lock in.
But that's the thing, this is not outside the box thinking. It's a reintroduction of glide, an introduction of a mechanism to lock you into their products. Every company wants to do this if they could, there's no fresh thinking in this. Though I will admit, they were very clever in bringing it about, if it works.
The limitations in the PC gaming architecture you mentioned it earlier? That's the ability to use peripherals from different vendors. They are not advancing the gaming experience, the are advancing the AMD gaming experience. That's a big difference. If it works, that's great for AMD, it was a bold move. But don't make it into something altruistic or noble, it's vendor lock in.