Radeon8500LE@ 250/275 3.3ns ram for 99$! (CRT+DVI only!)

[Ruined]

well the nice thing about the radeon vs the gf3s is the radeon supports dual monitors , that's worth the extra 4 dollars if you ask me (95 for gf3 vs 99 for 8500le).

 

[jackwhitter]

they r back in stock... hmm. i think i may get one.

 

[Solarium]

they're definately worth it I finally ordered one, but it's not gonna come until thursday next week T.T doh!

For an ATI brand (not OEM), 3.3ns ram 8500LE that's better than almost all other 8500's and easily overclockable to 285/315... it's damn worth 99 bucks.

 

[crazyjoekuta]

Can this card do CRT+CRT w/ the adapter?

Not sure from teh product description...

 

[helpme]

Ordered one, hope that I get it soon.. They usually ship from near by me, so I get things next day... but with the holiday I probably won't get it until wensday

 

[Hessakia]

Originally posted by: Solarium
they're definately worth it I finally ordered one, but it's not gonna come until thursday next week T.T doh!

For an ATI brand (not OEM), 3.3ns ram 8500LE that's better than almost all other 8500's and easily overclockable to 285/315... it's damn worth 99 bucks.

315 is not an "easy" overclock by anymeans--with ram rated at 3.3ns, the theoretical speed of the memory would be 1000/3.3 or 303.03. but still with a card that is 99 dollars and can be overclocked well passed retail radeon 8500 speeds (275/275), this is a great deal.

 

[Password]

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I think the Ti200/500 is a very nice card, but I perfer ATI, so it basically all boils down to preference now that the prices are similar.
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Doesn't the ATI have better picture quality?

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: Password
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I think the Ti200/500 is a very nice card, but I perfer ATI, so it basically all boils down to preference now that the prices are similar.
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Doesn't the ATI have better picture quality?

well the ATI has many advantages over the nvidia. one its faster than a ti500 with the newest drivers. even john carmack said that the core architecture in theory is faster than a gf4 at doom3. just the memory subsystems arent quite as good. this also has dvi out which most cheap geforce cards dont. and dual head. and the 2d is better. this is a great deal, my friend just got his, and i feel kinda screwed since i just bought a 250/250 radeon 8500 LE ati made for $99 also, ... coulda got better memory darn

 

[zsouthboy]

For clarification,

Radeon Retail and AIW Radeon 8500(NOT DV)--->275/275
Radeon LE and most 3rd party 8500's--->250/250
Radeon LELE--->230/230
Radeon 8500DV--->230/190

Hope that clears everything up for you guys.

zs

 

[helpme]

The DV is 190 ram?

 

[DaveF]

Hows does the DDR Radeon (7200?) compare to the 8500? Worth an upgrade?

 

[SupaCh1nk]

clicking the "chipset info" link reveals that this card is rated at 250/230 mhz, so technically you can not hold newegg at fault if u don't get a 250/275.

 

[JameyF]

Originally posted by: SupaCh1nk
clicking the "chipset info" link reveals that this card is rated at 250/230 mhz, so technically you can not hold newegg at fault if u don't get a 250/275.

Read my earlier post. I believe you can fault them if you don't get the 250/275 based on their written policy on their review page. The review page is used as product information also.

 

[amheck]

Can anyone confirm that they are still shipping the "good" 250/275 cards?
I am thinking about ordering one today.

Aaron

 

[idfubar]

How do you test the clockspeed/memory of the card? I recently got one and would like to share the results (another data point), but need to know if there's an app that I can run to test the speed of the card? Any apps for overclocking within windows?

Also, does anyone have a recommendation on drivers? Should I use tweaked drivers or the newest ones from ATi?

 

[thuned]

Originally posted by: SunshineDaydream
How do you test the clockspeed/memory of the card? I recently got one and would like to share the results (another data point), but need to know if there's an app that I can run to test the speed of the card? Any apps for overclocking within windows?

Also, does anyone have a recommendation on drivers? Should I use tweaked drivers or the newest ones from ATi?

first, take out your card and look at it. if it says 33 at the right end of the ram, then the ram is rated at 3.3ns, which means it can go up to 303mhz (606ddr). then, search rage3d on google and download it. it is a windows overclocking utility.

 

[SupaCh1nk]

Originally posted by: JameyF
Read my earlier post. I believe you can fault them if you don't get the 250/275 based on their written policy on their review page. The review page is used as product information also.

no i don't think so. "... all purchase decisions should not be solely based on the customer review." - from review page.

 

[wesman]

The customer opinion reviews are used at the discretion of Newegg.com as a marketing device for positive and constructive ways to share the benefit of the product

I think that's a pretty open and shut case. They acknowledge that they moderate the reviews. So if they don't remove false statments and use those false statements as "a marketing device" I think they are in trouble. It would be a very blatent case, since the majority of reviews focus on the fact that these cards are 250/275 with 3.3 memory. It's not like one or two bad reviews slipped thru.

Also the disclaimer says the custumer shoud not base their purchasing decisions "solely based" on the reviews. Meaning the information can be used as part of the decision. Also notice the disclaimer does not state anything to the affect of "all statements are the opinions of the review", instead it states:

customer comments in regards to their experience with said products are the opinions of the user.

Which appears to excludes statments regarding product specifications, and in fact, states:

Newegg.com is not a forum for product reviews... Newegg.com is a private site that conducts the business of selling computer hardware and as such, any specifications and information posted by Newegg.com regarding products for sale must be factual.

Not that I expect to press the issue. I'll return the card if it's not what I expect, and mention that they should correct the reviews, but I'm not going to make a big stink about it.

 

[alm4rr]

Hi Guys!
wow great to see this topic!
I JUST bought a new 128 meg Radeon 8500 for my computer this weekend.
I just couldnt take my 4 meg pci vid card anymore =)

bought it for $180 w/MIR at BB.

I havent overclocked it or anything, but ive bene playing JK2 like a kid hooked on crack for 3 days now and it looks great (but by comparison, damn near everything does =)

no more 11FPS in CS for me!!!!

 

[JameyF]

Originally posted by: SupaCh1nk

Originally posted by: JameyF
Read my earlier post. I believe you can fault them if you don't get the 250/275 based on their written policy on their review page. The review page is used as product information also.

no i don't think so. "... all purchase decisions should not be solely based on the customer review." - from review page.

SOLELY is the key word there. You must use that with other statements. If the product desription and the reviews differ, I would look at the most current reviews as testiment to what is shipping BECAUSE in their words,

"The customer opinion reviews are used at the discretion of Newegg.com as a marketing device for positive and constructive ways to share the benefit of the product...Therefore, the Newegg.com site is moderated to remove any unproven biased negative comments."

They ARE clearly claiming to use the reivews of such products as a marketing tool so they, by their own statements, are only posting such statements they deam correct and/or beneficial to selling their product. If a different product was shipped (in my non-legally educated opinion), they would be liable for false advertising. Once Newegg makes the statement that they moderate and post only statements they wish, Newegg claims resposibility of the reivews being an accurate discription. Kinda like here at AT when they claim to moderate and let Staples coupons stay up, they are claiming responsibility for the posting of them....hmmmm? If they don't moderate and remove posts, it's much harder to prove an active participation.

However, I do see your point, and that would be for lawyers to argue in court, but my feeling is they are claiming a product is something by posting those reviews. Stating don't trust that statment shouldn't release a company from making the statement unless they are going to state product reviews may be inaccurate. They do the opposite and say they "remove any unproven biased negative comments." Of course, there is a grey area they, and they could hide behind the fact they are posting unproven positive information, but hey, isn't that false advertising?

I wouldn't take them to court over it, so all this is kinda irrelevant due to their excellent return policy. I would argue they would be responsible for return shipping if I got a slower card.

FYI, I just received my card, and looking at it briefly I believe it is the faster memory. The memory chips are labeled ending in 33.

 

[Hessakia]

if you goto Price Watch and look up the Radeon 8500 you will see it listed for $99 at newegg, and in the detailed description, it says the card is 250/275. along with the description, it also has a newegg part number, which matches up to the card in question--so i guess that would solve any problems anyone would have on the speed of the card.


look into the problem more before you try to understand all the fine print.
hessakia

 

[idfubar]

Besides, what do you have to lose? Set aside all the principle stuff: If you don't like the card's memory/clock speed, RMA it, and worse case scenario, you lose $15...

P.S. Thuned, thanks for the advice - I'll post what the ram says when I get home this evening.

 

[JameyF]

I had forgotten that the pricewatch description was mentioned earlier. Thanks for reminder for all of us. Mine is indeed 250/275. I don't know if it's worth trying to get more out of it. What a great value this is for those who like gaming.

 

[SupaCh1nk]

i'm taking the plunge, came out to be $114 to california ouch.

is this card on par with gf3 ti500 or gf4 ti4400?

 

[Hessakia]

its comparable to a Geforce 3 Ti500 on certain benchmarks, but for the money at $100 you really can't go wrong.