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Elganja

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it's so simple to fix, and relatively inexpensive.

should not cost more than $1500 to get done
 
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Darwin333

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it's so simple to fix, and relatively inexpensive.

should not cost more than $1500 to get done

Considering that this will be in his master bedroom and 2nd living room I couldn't agree more but being a complete radon idiot, evidently we don't have to deal with that shit around here, that is a rather cheap insurance policy against cancer.
 

OverVolt

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You do know that you are exposed to radiation all the time from the earth right? not my opinion, its SCIENCE!.
Yea its almost like there must be millions of people who suffer from diseases, crazy.

Humans don't actually possess good DNA repair mechanisms especially against inflammation.

The bioburden is going to be cumulative.
 
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So Im trying to buy a newer home and the home inspection results showed that it had some mild radon issues, 4.6 against an EPA recommendation of 4.0. Has anyone ever had to deal with getting it remediated? If so how did the process go? What were the costs? I've been looking online but ive been seeing some pretty wild differences in estimates.

Radon remediation in my area costs around $1500 guaranteed to get the result under 4.0
It’s not a complicated thing, there is piping a fan or two and a vent going up to the roof.

There is good evidence we should all try for under 2.0
 
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Dr. Zaus

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Radon remediation in my area costs around $1500 guaranteed to get the result under 4.0
It’s not a complicated thing, there is piping a fan or two and a vent going up to the roof.
There is good evidence we should all try for under 2.0
It's a continuous variable; we should have as much radon as we do smoke - none.

Baring that, most outside air is 0.4; which sounds reasonable to me.
 
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Literally not what your link says.

Even a 1.6 increases cancer risks noticeably.

Define noticeably while framing it with the fact that getting the level under 2.0 in a home is "hard".

Your stating that it is a noticeable increased risk at a level of 1.6 when the baseline according to the EPA is essentially 2.0?
 

RadiclDreamer

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So my quote came back at around $2500 to install a system start to finish. I think we will be looking to install one in the next year or so. We are only at 4.6 so im not insanely worried about it.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Define noticeably while framing it with the fact that getting the level under 2.0 in a home is "hard".

Your stating that it is a noticeable increased risk at a level of 1.6 when the baseline according to the EPA is essentially 2.0?

Yes, the politically expedient number is different from the optimal number.

Government advice is given to optimize the whole system - and someone didn't want to make housing or home-sales more expensive and create a major windfall for radon abatement. They valued that more highly than lung cancer reduction.

There is no safe level of radon.

That's a rock fact.

 
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So my quote came back at around $2500 to install a system start to finish. I think we will be looking to install one in the next year or so. We are only at 4.6 so im not insanely worried about it.

Holy crap. We did our system, about 10 years ago for $700..... And that's in CT where things always cost more.

You might want more estimates.

It's literally drilling a 4" hole into slab. Punching a hole into the side of your house. And running a stack. The installer was at our house for 3-4 hours. I'll be generous and say $250 for labor. There is no way the material costs is $2250. It's literally PVC pipe, some sealer (say two tubes of caulk) and the fan/wiring.

Listen, go here:
https://www.homeadvisor.com/cost/environmental-safety/remove-radon-gas/
 

paperfist

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Shouldn't be a problem to get the sellers to cover this, pretty standard practice in my area. Radon is ubiquitous here in Eastern PA. My house had a level of 68 before remediation. Sellers took care of it before close and I have had a meter running down in the basement since, never breaks 1 now.

How long did those people live there and what ill effects did they suffer?
 

TheVrolok

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How long did those people live there and what ill effects did they suffer?
They lived here for 12 years. None that I'm aware of, radon, however is not necessarily something that has an easy correlatable harm. The risk is that its heavy and will sit in your lung bases for many years decaying and causing damage leading to lung cancer in some people (second most common cause of lung cancer per the EPA).
 
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Red Squirrel

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I often hear about radon but yet never heard of anyone here talk about it or implementing any kind of mitigation. Is this just a problem in the south?

Do people really have air tubes sucking air out 24/7? That seems like it would be really inefficient, is there not a better way, such as using a HRV?
 

paperfist

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I often hear about radon but yet never heard of anyone here talk about it or implementing any kind of mitigation. Is this just a problem in the south?

Do people really have air tubes sucking air out 24/7? That seems like it would be really inefficient, is there not a better way, such as using a HRV?

North East. I think it has something to do with all shale deposits we have.

The ones I've seen were 2" PVC and they use a centrifugal fan like you see in a bathroom that sucks it out. In the basement they dig a pit to below the concrete slab and they cement the pipe in there. Half way up the pipe is some kind of bubble meter.

They button up any cracks you have in your slab.

I don't understand how it's effective either as you're pulling from one point in the slab which can be pretty large.

They lived here for 12 years. None that I'm aware of, radon, however is not necessarily something that has an easy correlatable harm. The risk is that its heavy and will sit in your lung bases for many years decaying and causing damage leading to lung cancer in some people (second most common cause of lung cancer per the EPA).

Interesting.

My neighbor just sold her house and the new owner with a pregnant wife had the old owner install one. I don't know how high the reading was but that must mean my house has it. I've lived here 20 years though so not sure what the point would be installing one now.
 
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I often hear about radon but yet never heard of anyone here talk about it or implementing any kind of mitigation. Is this just a problem in the south?

Do people really have air tubes sucking air out 24/7? That seems like it would be really inefficient, is there not a better way, such as using a HRV?

They’re low speed fans kind of like you computer case fan but it moves much slower.
To my understanding Radon is everywhere in the continental US. I know the North East has a higher concentration
I’m a realtor in MA, systems typically cost $850-$1500. Sellers sometimes pay for them but not too often in our current market.
 
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North East. I think it has something to do with all shale deposits we have.

The ones I've seen were 2" PVC and they use a centrifugal fan like you see in a bathroom that sucks it out. In the basement they dig a pit to below the concrete slab and they cement the pipe in there. Half way up the pipe is some kind of bubble meter.

They button up any cracks you have in your slab.

I don't understand how it's effective either as you're pulling from one point in the slab which can be pretty large.



Interesting.

My neighbor just sold her house and the new owner with a pregnant wife had the old owner install one. I don't know how high the reading was but that must mean my house has it. I've lived here 20 years though so not sure what the point would be installing one now.

I was told by a radon remediation guy that a 4.0 is roughly equal to standing near someone smoking a cigarette once or twice per day.
I think near was within 10 feet but I’m not sure about that figure.
There definitely is a danger it’s just not immediate danger.
 
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