Calling out or disliking Obama, even personally, isn't racism, no matter how much you like him. Racism is the belief that one race is inherently superior or inferior to another. Insisting that Obama not be subject to the same sort of criticisms as are other politicians comes perilously close to racism, implying that he is "special" and cannot stand up to the same treatment as can white politicians.
I don't know why Obama is even relevant to this thread. I have no problem with people calling out Obama if they genuinely disagree with him.
There is a lot of rage and hate generally against Hispanics. The whole "speak English" thing and constant railing against "illegal immigrants" is little more than code-speak for people's desires to eliminate Hispanics from our nation.
You twits always try to suggest there is racism at play when for most of us race and/or hate has exactly ZERO to do with it.
I happen to live in the real world, and I see every day the tension between hispanics and whites in the town nearby.
I hear people saying that the "government" is going to change the street signs to Spanish. Talk about those "weird guys". Complain that telephone help menus when you call the bank have a Spanish option. See how the store clerks talk down to the day laborers.
You can tell from the demeanor and tone of voice how people view each other. I'm not stupid. I see this for what it is.
As will you.
lol, I too live in the real world and most of us seem to get along just fine.
However, you will see what you want to see as that's what victimhood peddlers do. Are things perfect? hell no but to try to suggest anyone who is for English to be spoken here or against ILLEGAL aliens is racist is utter BS.
I don't care what color you are or where you came from as long as you are here legally and learn to speak the language we speak here. That goes for ANYONE, not just Hispanics.
Meh, this isn't really the topic of the thread...
lol, I too live in the real world and most of us seem to get along just fine.
However, you will see what you want to see as that's what victimhood peddlers do. Are things perfect? hell no but to try to suggest anyone who is for English to be spoken here or against ILLEGAL aliens is racist is utter BS.
I don't care what color you are or where you came from as long as you are here legally and learn to speak the language we speak here. That goes for ANYONE, not just Hispanics.
Meh, this isn't really the topic of the thread...
Getting along fine doesn't mean shit about racism. Just because there isn't any blatant violence or words thrown doesn't mean shit.
There is a lot of rage and hate generally against Hispanics. The whole "speak English" thing and constant railing against "illegal immigrants" is little more than code-speak for people's desires to eliminate Hispanics from our nation.
Yep, because I can acknowledge that things aren't perfect without going to the extremes like you victimhood types go to.
I don't know why Obama is even relevant to this thread. I have no problem with people calling out Obama if they genuinely disagree with him.
There is a lot of rage and hate generally against Hispanics. The whole "speak English" thing and constant railing against "illegal immigrants" is little more than code-speak for people's desires to eliminate Hispanics from our nation.
"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
so you don't think there's a problem with literally TENS OFMILLIONS of illegal immigrants in the US?
i don't care what people speak in their homes. but when you come to this country, you are expected to adopt its culture. that includes speaking english. if i were to move to any other country in the world - france, germany, russia, china, japan, etc. i'd be expected to learn their languages and speak them. no different here.
Sure it's a problem. But what I am talking about is the use of the code-phrase "illegal immigrant" to mean "anyone of Hispanic descent".
I seriously do not understand the hostility towards immigrants who move here and do not speak English, or speak it badly. I have Indian neighbors (Hindi speakers) who are elderly and speak little English beyond very basic phrases. But their children and grandchildren who live with them speak English just fine. The people who move here inevitably assimilate within a generation.
The notion that America is going to be taken over by non-English speakers is utter nonsense. It's a scare mongering tactic used to incite nativists who are afraid of the changing demographics in this country.
ummm, yes it does... if you have no 'blatent violence' or 'words thrown' for a couple generations - for whatever reason - things get better... see 'usa'...
Utter non-sense my ass. Have you been to California? Texas? Florida?
And there is no such thing as "nativists", unless you're talking about the Native Americans.
As for equating illegal immigrants to those of Hispanic descent, that is only a logical association. What, did you think USA gives Mexican "immigrants" Visas willy nilly to come to the USA to work and play for... what exactly, it can't be the high education levels, the ability to speak English, or niche skills right?
It is fact that most Hispanics today are either the descendants of illegal immigrants, or illegal immigrants themselves. Only a small percentage of Hispanics arrived legally.
Bullshit. Whites are now the minority therefore Spanish should rightfully be the dominant language.
Many towns have already converted everything to spanish. If you don't like it you are free to leave. Comprendo?
You twits always try to suggest there is racism at play when for most of us race and/or hate has exactly ZERO to do with it.
"...most of us..." :hmm:
I don't know why Obama is even relevant to this thread. I have no problem with people calling out Obama if they genuinely disagree with him.
There is a lot of rage and hate generally against Hispanics. The whole "speak English" thing and constant railing against "illegal immigrants" is little more than code-speak for people's desires to eliminate Hispanics from our nation.
Your contention is evidently that no one can genuinely disagree with Obama except where you too disagree with him, with all other attacks on him or his actions attributed to "widespread racism, distrust & open hatred of fellow citizens".Perhaps here in P&N, the true nature of where we stand as a nation is revealed: widespread racism, distrust & open hatred of fellow citizens, disdain for the less fortunate.