RAID-0

[t3h l337 n3wb]

If you buy 2 drives and put them in RAID 0 as opposed to buying 1 big drive, you'll be 1 step closer to being able to run RAID 5 in the future. That's what I did. I bought 2 drives and put them in RAID 0, and as soon as I can afford another drive, I'll put them in RAID 5. Anyways, what's the chance of a hard drive failing on you? None of the computer my family have owned have ever had a hard drive die. Also, if you back up regularly, it should be fine... You can even like back up every night or something. It's not that time consuming...

 

[bob4432]

to the op, if speed is what yout want, get a 1 gen old 15krpm u320 scsi hdd. newegg has them for ~$100 refurbed, but the refurbed have a 5yr warranty so if you get a dud you can rma it. this will give you want, a crazy fast drive with ultra low seek times. also look in fs/ft section for a adaptec 19160, 29160, 39160, 29320 or lsiu160 card and cable and you should be good to go scsi for ~$150. only downside is it 36GB, but works awesome for a system drive.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: trader869

your friend is lying, there is no way you can do a fresh install in 8 minutes, the fastest i have seen is ~20mins using a stripped xp disc that had just the bare essentials

Im not saying you FOS....but i can guarantee you that i install XP pro in 14 minutes,easily. Thats with one 80G WD. When I used Raid0 on my other pc, it installed in 12 minutes. And that was repeated time after time when i tested that setup.

not saying you are fos, but could you video tape it and then compress via divx... i would really like to see a 12min install.

my setup was done using a stripped xp disc with xp2 already installed and all the user and key info already put in via nliteos.

 

[trader869]

Im not gonna waste my time making a video to prove it to you. Mine also was an Nlite stripped Xp Pro SP2,185mb disk. Put disk in, boot from CD and it does its own thing. Go to MSFN forums(which im sure you already have ) and ask how long it takes some of those guys. Stripped Unattended CD's work great. Plenty of those guys installing in under 15 minutes.

 

[SuperSix]

Why not a Raptor as a boot drive, then a big 2nd drive for storage?

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: trader869
Im not gonna waste my time making a video to prove it to you. Mine also was an Nlite stripped Xp Pro SP2,185mb disk. Put disk in, boot from CD and it does its own thing. Go to MSFN forums(which im sure you already have ) and ask how long it takes some of those guys. Stripped Unattended CD's work great. Plenty of those guys installing in under 15 minutes.

i wil definately poke around the msfn forums, maybe i can lean my xp disc out even more...

 

[Gamingphreek]

Everyone already said RAID-0 isn't worth it, however if you are copying huge files around on your drives, then you will notice a difference. Other than that... pretty much no difference.

-Kevin

 

[Azarx]

Everyone stop putting each other down raid 0 does offer some speed increase key word some but not that much, but really people how often does a hard drive fails stop worrying about if. If you do a raid 0 make sure you get good drives maxtor or western digital i have had drives for 4 years without failing. Raid 5 is better if you really want backup files. Pretty it boils down to how much you willing to spend and if you want speed and large storage capacity. My recomendation is to get one raptor in sata and another big sata drive as stated before me.

 

[Gamingphreek]

make sure you get good drives maxtor

Haha... yeah you go ahead and follow that mentality.

My recomendation is to get one raptor in sata and another big sata drive as stated before me.

Raptors dont offer a huge noticable increase either. If you are spending all this money than you might as well go SCSI in which case you will see an improvement.

RAID-0 offers (for the most part) 0 improvement in all of your everyday tasks like i said the only thing in which you might see an improvement in (avg consumer) is large file writes.

-Kevin

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

make sure you get good drives maxtor

Haha... yeah you go ahead and follow that mentality.

My recomendation is to get one raptor in sata and another big sata drive as stated before me.

Raptors dont offer a huge noticable increase either. If you are spending all this money than you might as well go SCSI in which case you will see an improvement.

RAID-0 offers (for the most part) 0 improvement in all of your everyday tasks like i said the only thing in which you might see an improvement in (avg consumer) is large file writes.

-Kevin

^^^^^^^^^^
exactly what kevin states, and you don't need to go sata, unless you like the small cables, there are no other benefits with current hdds.

go 15k u320 scsi, either current gen or 1 gen old and the seek times will make a noticeable improvement (which you can usually pick up a 1 gen old 36GB 15k u320 hdd refurbed from newegg and pick up a u160 card on the fs/ft forum for less than a 74GB raptor)

obviously gamingphreek has never had a hdd fail, but he will...it is just a matter of time

 

[Gamingphreek]

obviously gamingphreek has never had a hdd fail, but he will...it is just a matter of time

Why do you say that?

Obviously i agree with myself however you might have misunderstoof me, SATA is starting to have a slight advantage over IDE nowadays. Nothing to big, and might only be noticable in large file transfers/writes, and synthetic benchmarks, but it is starting to become more pronounced. I just needed to explain that, otherwise, i personally dont think the Raptors are really worth it either.

-Kevin

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

obviously gamingphreek has never had a hdd fail, but he will...it is just a matter of time

Why do you say that?

Obviously i agree with myself however you might have misunderstoof me, SATA is starting to have a slight advantage over IDE nowadays. Nothing to big, and might only be noticable in large file transfers/writes, and synthetic benchmarks, but it is starting to become more pronounced. I just needed to explain that, otherwise, i personally dont think the Raptors are really worth it either.

-Kevin

because maxtors have about the worst failure rate. personally i have had a drive from every manf fail but if you read enough the maxtors have a higher failure rate than the others, albeit by a small margin.

also, the sata advantages you are talking about i would assume be more toward the sataII options or platter density.

 

[t3h l337 n3wb]

Dunno about you guys, but I love the small cables They're so neat and tiny, and they look a lot better in a case with a clear window

 

[Azarx]

Yes sataIO and better denisty also the best failure of hard drives crown was held by IBM hard drives very fast but failed miserably in quality and durability

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Azarx
Yes sataIO and better denisty also the best failure of hard drives crown was held by IBM hard drives very fast but failed miserably in quality and durability

that was with the deathstars, form the reports i have read, they seem to have fixed whatever problem they had

 

[ironique]

Oh they fixed it alright, they sold off their HDD manufacturing section to Hitachi!

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: bob4432

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

obviously gamingphreek has never had a hdd fail, but he will...it is just a matter of time

Why do you say that?

Obviously i agree with myself however you might have misunderstoof me, SATA is starting to have a slight advantage over IDE nowadays. Nothing to big, and might only be noticable in large file transfers/writes, and synthetic benchmarks, but it is starting to become more pronounced. I just needed to explain that, otherwise, i personally dont think the Raptors are really worth it either.

-Kevin

because maxtors have about the worst failure rate. personally i have had a drive from every manf fail but if you read enough the maxtors have a higher failure rate than the others, albeit by a small margin.

also, the sata advantages you are talking about i would assume be more toward the sataII options or platter density.

In case you didn't catch what i said.

You said "buy a good HDD like maxtor". I laughed and said yeah you do that. Meaning you were completely wrong and i was making fun of you.

-Kevin