US military officials are investigating an image of 16 black female cadets in uniform with their fists raised, which some say is a political act associated with African-Americans' quest for fair treatment under the law in the United States.
Do me a favor and provide a link. I'll gladly take a look at it.
Do me a favor and provide a link. I'll gladly take a look at it.
Do me a favor and provide a link. I'll gladly take a look at it.
https://youtu.be/JPJP4qDQrSI
White Panthers.
The link was provided in the Vice article, linked in my OP.
Starts at just before the 1:00 mark.
https://youtu.be/JPJP4qDQrSI?t=60
Smart/Cowardly/Lucky cadets as I fully believe their action was politically motivated and that the cadets themselves backed down and gave some other excuse that it was not political after being threatened with punitive actions.
Choose the adjective you believe fits best.
Problem with that is "Army Strong" is also the raised fist. The only way one can conclude that these young women were necessarily making a proscribed political state (I am assuming here that "Army Strong" is not prohibited free speech) is to conclude that a black raised fist inherently has a different meaning from a white raised fist, making some animals just more equal than others. Unless there have been similar investigations of white cadets anyway.It's not about offense at all, military people are subject to discipline for exercising their free speech rights while in uniform if it creates even the appearance of impropriety. Even the stupidest buck private in the Army knows that when you're in uniform and in public, you don't offer up unsolicited political statements or anything that can be interpreted as one if you don't want the Uniform Code of Military Justice hammer to be brought down upon you. This stuff ain't no joke either, as any veteran can tell you or you can just read about stories like this one.
That being said the punishment should reflect the relatively tame nature of what they did; a letter of reprimand is probably too harsh but is likely what they'll get as a verbal warning won't have the desired deterrent effect for others.
Problem with that is "Army Strong" is also the raised fist. The only way one can conclude that these young women were necessarily making a proscribed political state (I am assuming here that "Army Strong" is not prohibited free speech) is to conclude that a black raised fist inherently has a different meaning from a white raised fist, making some animals just more equal than others. Unless there have been similar investigations of white cadets anyway.
A good rule of life behavior is that when an action has two plausible motivations and one of those is offensive, grow a pair and don't automatically get offended.
Werepossum, out of curiosity, can you provide me a link of a raised fist depicting 'Army Strong' explicitly? It's something I've never seen or heard of so I'm curious about it.
See stlc8tr's vid.Werepossum, out of curiosity, can you provide me a link of a raised fist depicting 'Army Strong' explicitly? It's something I've never seen or heard of so I'm curious about it.
I'd argue that the Nazi salute is a LOT less universal than a raised fist.Like I said in other posts, motivation and context matters. You can be pretty sure these cadets would have likewise been questioned had they made a gesture that might have "two plausible motivations" yet looked like it might be a Nazi salute or any kind of overtly political speech whatsoever. It's unfortunate when someone does something innocently yet it gets blown up into a scandal like this, but it wasn't some sort of witch hunt either.
Thanks.
Problem with that is "Army Strong" is also the raised fist. The only way one can conclude that these young women were necessarily making a proscribed political state (I am assuming here that "Army Strong" is not prohibited free speech) is to conclude that a black raised fist inherently has a different meaning from a white raised fist, making some animals just more equal than others. Unless there have been similar investigations of white cadets anyway.
A good rule of life behavior is that when an action has two plausible motivations and one of those is offensive, grow a pair and don't automatically get offended.
I agree that this is the world we live in. My point is that when you see someone do something that could be innocuous but might possibly be something political or offensive, don't get offended.This is the world we live in. Words, phrases, and actions are, regardless of context or intent, only okay for some races to use.
There wouldn't be an investigation it white cadets using what could possibly be a politically motivated black power symbol. But, they wouldn't be an investigation into a group of black cadets calling another black cadet the n word either.
I'm generally not one to want everything to be PC, but when a group of military members could be construed as doing something possibly offensive, it should be looked into. They represent the military as a whole, regardless if they mean to or not, and represent our country to the outside world.
I certainly don't agree with these cadets receiving anything more than a reminder their actions reflect upon everyone though.