I wonder what is the power dynamics behind the scene - did marketing and PR choose the "over promise" route or Raja?
Either way, RTG have no answer for nvidia's pascal or the upcoming Volta which is just sitting there waiting for release.
Poor Volta or the stupid rebellion commercials comes to mind.....
Or Fury X marketing slides that presented the card like it was 30% faster in gaming than 980Ti...
Raja and RTG have been overhyping and underdelivering ever since it was founded.
The whole reason RTG was founded was to give them more control of the product development and to have more funds to make better products.
Of course someone had to take the consequences of all the stupid stuff they did
I wonder what is the power dynamics behind the scene - did marketing and PR choose the "over promise" route or Raja?
Either way, RTG have no answer for nvidia's pascal or the upcoming Volta which is just sitting there waiting for release.
Called it -
Thing is Vega was an utter failure, I know people will defend it, but its just way too forward thinking, some of it features might not end up being properly utilized or utilized at all for years. Maybe in 2 years time Vega 64 will destroy the 1080ti in every single Vulkan and DX12 game, but by that point it won't matter.
We've seen in Wolfenstein 2 that Vega 64 is faster than the 1080ti when many of its features are properly utilized, but this is just one game out of the hundreds released each year. AMD needed at least 10 AAA games that utilize their technology properly to even stand a small chance.
Vega 56 is faster than the 1080 in Wolfenstein 2, we see the potential, but again the design is way too forward looking and not many developers are going to start over on their engine development to accommodate for AMD's two graphic cards.
So the decisions they've taken have been wrong, they should have focused more on the here and now and less about the future.
@ryanshrout said:I just confirmed that Raja Koduri @Rajaontheedge will in fact be going to work at Intel.
Koduri will expand Intel’s leading position in integrated graphics for the PC market with high-end discrete graphics solutions for a broad range of computing segments.
Allright here you go !
Raja Koduri Joins Intel as Chief Architect to Drive Unified Vision across Cores and Visual Computing
https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/raja-koduri-joins-intel/
It specifically mentions computing so no one should get their hopes up (or dread) that they're going to make rasterizing gaming GPUs.Also AT says that Intel is going to develop discrete GPUs?
It specifically mentions computing so no one should get their hopes up (or dread) that they're going to make rasterizing gaming GPUs.
It specifically mentions computing so no one should get their hopes up (or dread) that they're going to make rasterizing gaming GPUs.
anandtech said:Reading between the lines, it’s clear that Intel will be going after both the compute and graphics sub-markets for GPUs. The former of course is an area where Intel has been fighting NVIDIA for several years now with less success than they’d like to see, while the latter would be new territory for Intel. However it’s very notable that Intel is calling these “graphics solutions”, so it’s clear that this isn’t just another move by Intel to develop a compute-only processor ala the Xeon Phi.
To that end, I’m going to be surprised if Intel doesn’t develop a true top-to-bottom product stack that contains midrange GPUs as well – something in the vein of Polaris 10 and GP106 – but for the moment the discrete GPU aspect of Intel’s announcement is focused on high-end GPUs. And, given what we typically see in PC GPU release cycles, even if Intel does develop a complete product stack, I wouldn’t be too surprised if Intel’s first released GPU was a high-end GPU, as it’s clear this is where Intel needs to start first to best combat NVIDIA.
Doesn't Intel have a cross license with both Nvidia and AMD? But I get your point; Intel will have to have to be careful not to intrude on Nvidia's or AMD's patents and/or work out a new cross licensing agreement that let's them develop their own GPUs.Intel developing GPUs headed by the former graphics guru at AMD has legal minefield written all over it.
...that they're going to make rasterizing gaming GPUs.
Of course, although many of the details have never been disclosed. Intel is going to have to be careful what they do they've already been on the hotseat enough for their business practices. If Raja accidentally on purpose starts using patented AMD tech this will not end well for Intel.Doesn't Intel have a cross license with both Nvidia and AMD?
Kyle from HardOCP predicted this quite a while back - https://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility
Probably for the better. Doesn't leave me with much hope for Navi, though.
It was cool. Hardocp is far worse today than they used to be. At this point I don't think they bring much to the table. I stopped giving those reviews any traffic they are just poorly done. I think I said this the last gpu release just how poor the reviews were in comparison to other review sites.I've been out of the loop for awhile, though I'm not surprised that they no longer invite Kyle to their launch events. I like a lot of things about his site, and his testing methods are pretty cool and different from the norm, but he's about as unbiased as Fox News.