RAMBUS is pure evile

[jsm]

There are more reasons to despise RAMBUS besides the fact that their memory is latency ridden. They also have been planning to screw over the entire memory industry for quite some time now. There is a really good story I found about this right here.

There are so many reasons why I never bought machines with RAMBUS memory.. this is just one more reason never to buy anything RAMBUS ever makes.

 

[chuckieland]

not news here
it is human standard that Rambus is bad

 

[BaTTo]

Rambus is Evil and Intel is eating off their hand.

 

[esung]

well, Rambus probably convince Intel that their technology will be better, and Intel believed it too much, probably invest in them too much, so if Rambus died, it'll drag down Intel as well. and of course all those screwd tactics are necessary to gain money, and since IP patend itself is in a real mess.. maybe I ought to patent the "+" sign or the "add" concept.... j/k

 

[Leo V]

What are you talking about? RAMBUS is pure good, they just need more leibensraum. RAMBUS is my Führer! RAMBUS über alles! Zieg heil!
(sike! )

 

[KpocAlypse]

Don't we remember the movie Spaceball's..."Evil will always defeat good, cuz good is dumb.." Even though the company sucks, they will probally stay around for a while. Allway trying to out smart the other manufactures by legal manuvering and under the table deals.
Hey it goes to show that if one has enough lawyers, one can try to control the DRAM market, who care's if the technology works well or not..

And correct me if i'm wrong here, but doesn't DDR Also have a higher lantency? Though not as high as RDRAM.. I will admit though, i do like the rambus design, but they Business Ethics, not to mention the wayyy to expensive price, need real real help..

 

[Leo V]

I see DDR vs. RAMBUST as follows:

Industry-accepted open standard vs. royalty-based, forced proprietary standard.

 

[jsm]

KpocAlypse, you may want to read these little articles regarding the latency of Rambus memory.

Rambus Latency Article 1

Rambus Latency Article 2

 

[KpocAlypse]

Kinda like the RWT article, always liked there reads. Can't stand Tom no more, so not even touching that one.

Still, just a question, what the average Lat. of DDR?

Personally i think the serverworks idea in the HEsl, (Low Lat. Twice the bandwidth) is perferred over both, but, that idea will probally never work its way down to Home PC's.

 

[esung]

PC2100 runs at CAS 2.5 I think..

Rambus is here to stay.. PS2 use them, and Alpha EV7 also has intergrated Rambus controller on chip, which means it can only use Rambus..

 

[cpumaster]

esung:
>>Rambus is here to stay.. <<

FOREVER? FOREVER EVER FOREVER EVER?
Sorry Miss Jackson it ain't gonna happened,
Rambu$ s*ck$, hope they d!e a slow and horrible death

 

[Czar]

RDRAM is only good in computers that need little memory and lots of bandwith, like the PS2.

RDRAM will never be used in servers because the more RDRAM you have the higher latency.

RDRAM is 16bit serial Vs. SDRAM,DDRAM,QDRAM 64bit paralell.

DDRAM has the same latency as SDRAM, while RDRAM has about 10 times higher latency.


annnd....

RAMBUS IS EVIL, BURN

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RMBS&amp;d=5d
See, their stock is going down, muhhahah

 

[KpocAlypse]

RAmbus as a product might be here to stay, Because it is a useable memory alternative, mostly with the p4, which is designed to use its added bandwitdth, and deal with its downfalls. However RAMBUS as a company is in trouble.. There is something that one learns in a business college that Rambus has tended to miss, this is called &quot;ETHICS&quot;. You don't go around bulling competitors around, nor do you try to push your product on any one platform, this tends to get people slighty pissed and determined to bury you..

 

[esung]

cpumaster: I didn't say Rambus will stay forever.. nothing will.

KpocAlypse is correct that the technology certainly has it's advantage, put aside the crummy sneaky business the company conducts.
EV7 also have 8 channel integrated controller build into the chip, so it can cut down the latency (overall) some what.. besides PS2 and EV7, I think some other embeded network peripherals are going to use Rambus as well...

Personally I favors DDR, but I'm not saying that the technology is evil because the companies that evolves around it is evil.

 

[LickEmSmack]

Rambust is coming to my school (UC Berkeley) to do an &quot;infosession&quot; March 1... There will be a presentation and such... I am thinking I may go to protest their business practices and such. Do you guys have any suggestions on what I should do? I am open to anything.

 

[esung]

LickEmSmack: instead of protest, why not asking them questions they can't answer? performance issues and other stuff. That's what I did in Comdex.. (in '99 they had some real big screw ups on media and other things in Comdex.. plus there's always performance issues.)

 

[LickEmSmack]

esung: Give me some examples of quextions to ask them... I want not just technical stuffs, but also their business practices.

 

[esung]

you probably want to do a search on the web for the Qs. I can only think a few on top of my head.

They were giving away stock shares to whoever produce the most Rambus RAM, (which is to seduce RAM maker to make RAM instead of supply-demand).. I think NEC won the shares, but almost immediately announce cutting back on production on RAMBUS RAM citing low demand.

Also you can check the web for the newly release Rambus internal memo's on the sneaky way they plan to do business.

Another one is about Rambus's filed suit against a company and later
withdraw it, and the Judge feel that Rambus is trying to shopping for the Judge(find a one that's Rambus friendly).. and he made some statement that further Rambus lawsuit in that district must come
under him...

 

[esung]

Also go to Rambus's site, in the develop section there's a few PDFs you can use it for your ammo..

and please check around for the web for all the details about the stuff I've posted.

and I don't have to repeat the tech related problems on Rambus.. those are well known.