rant by a lady who isn't too impressed with metrosexuals

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Zysoclaplem

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
this whole thread is full of ass hats... well at least a couple. the whole metrosexual thing started as people breaking stereo-types.

So I guess that makes it good? Not always. Let's break some stereotypes and make a Volvo that's dangerous, a Porsche that handles like a 1983 Cadillac, and an airliner that doesn't fly. It's breaking stereotypes, it must be good.

Hey, I have another great idea. Let's make a man act like a eunuch and call it "metrosexual". He can be a sissy, a real nancyboy... great idea.

Luckily that way of thinking, that mindset, is going the way of the Dodo.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem


Luckily that way of thinking, that mindset, is going the way of the Dodo.

Again, the typical response used by a lesser man with an inferiority complex. Would you ever expect a lame D&D playing loser to claim that he's a loser? No, he'll claim that he's in the "cool group", but that other people aren't capable of seeing it. Of course he can't defend this stance, but he'll try. And how come whenever someone holds a position that they cannot defend, they make vague claims about their way "taking over", or "things are changing"? Sort of like when a company releases abysmal income results, they always add a spin at the end:

"Sales were down 200% the last quarter, but we believe it's changing for the better. Our competitors should be concerned". Or for the lame Star Trek watching D&D kid, "This style is taking over and the jock look is going the way of the Dodo"

But in reality, it's not. Let me break it down for you:

Women don't want an unmanly, unattractive man. That does not mean that the only alternative is a wife-beating, NASCAR watching hick with a mullet. You can be a clean, intelligent MAN, and still act like a man. Acting like you're hiding something by being metrosexual doesn't exactly improve your standing with women. Using the not-so-clever excuse of "being comfortable with your sexuality" does not mean that people will believe you when they see you wearing a pink shirt and sporting shaved legs.

There is a huge difference between being a clean, intelligent MAN, and a skinny, hairless, androgenous metrosexual. And I find it very disappointing that the younger generation can't identify a fad for being a fad. I bet you also had people claiming that disco was the future and was here to stay. But history proved otherwise.
 

Zysoclaplem

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem


Luckily that way of thinking, that mindset, is going the way of the Dodo.

Again, the typical response used by a lesser man with an inferiority complex. Would you ever expect a lame D&D playing loser to claim that he's a loser? No, he'll claim that he's in the "cool group", but that other people aren't capable of seeing it. Of course he can't defend this stance, but he'll try. And how come whenever someone holds a position that they cannot defend, they make vague claims about their way "taking over", or "things are changing"? Sort of like when a company releases abysmal income results, they always add a spin at the end:

"Sales were down 200% the last quarter, but we believe it's changing for the better. Our competitors should be concerned". Or for the lame Star Trek watching D&D kid, "This style is taking over and the jock look is going the way of the Dodo"

But in reality, it's not. Let me break it down for you:

Women don't want an unmanly, unattractive man. That does not mean that the only alternative is a wife-beating, NASCAR watching hick with a mullet. You can be a clean, intelligent MAN, and still act like a man. Acting like you're hiding something by being metrosexual doesn't exactly improve your standing with women. Using the not-so-clever excuse of "being comfortable with your sexuality" does not mean that people will believe you when they see you wearing a pink shirt and sporting shaved legs.

There is a huge difference between being a clean, intelligent MAN, and a skinny, hairless, androgenous metrosexual. And I find it very disappointing that the younger generation can't identify a fad for being a fad. I bet you also had people claiming that disco was the future and was here to stay. But history proved otherwise.

Don't tell me what women in general want. I am sure I know more about that than you.

Stubborn can be a good thing, and a bad thing. And the truth that times are changing, and people are different now can be scary. The factor of traditional societal roles are shifting.
You can grasp onto whatever strings of what used to be you like, but that's the plain and skinny of it.
And metrosexuality is not a fashion craze imo. Fashion changes everyday. It's more or less a realization that you don't have to be what society expects you to be.
If you want to look good and smell nice and get rid of absolutely unecessary body hair, you can. But there will always be those people who are afraid of change, and afraid of what their friends will think of them.
It's the same mentality of gay-bashers. A good percentage of them are gay themselves, but are willing to go to extreme measures to prove to their friends and to society that they aren't. Overcompensation, insecurity, and denial. Defensive denial. I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but there is a reason for it.

 

91TTZ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem


Don't tell me what women in general want. I am sure I know more about that than you.

Stubborn can be a good thing, and a bad thing. And the truth that times are changing, and people are different now can be scary. The factor of traditional societal roles are shifting.
You can grasp onto whatever strings of what used to be you like, but that's the plain and skinny of it.
And metrosexuality is not a fashion craze imo. Fashion changes everyday. It's more or less a realization that you don't have to be what society expects you to be.
If you want to look good and smell nice and get rid of absolutely unecessary body hair, you can. But there will always be those people who are afraid of change, and afraid of what their friends will think of them.
It's the same mentality of gay-bashers. A good percentage of them are gay themselves, but are willing to go to extreme measures to prove to their friends and to society that they aren't. Overcompensation, insecurity, and denial. Defensive denial. I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but there is a reason for it.

LOL, your entire post is so typical of your type, I wish I could have copied some other posts I've read by people like you- they're almost identical.

Here's the common theme:

"I'm not considered manly or attractive today, but times are changing and soon I'll be all the rage while you will go the way of the dodo.".

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. Women never want an oversensitive, incapable man who lacks manly attributes and confidence. Keep dreaming of a future that will never come, where people like you are considered good examples of "men".
 

91TTZ

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By the way, post a picture of yourself so I know what kind of "man" (I use that term loosely) that I'm dealing with. Let's see you in all your metro glory.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. Women never want an oversensitive, incapable man who lacks manly attributes and confidence.

Yes, they do but not to breed with.
 

Zysoclaplem

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem


Don't tell me what women in general want. I am sure I know more about that than you.

Stubborn can be a good thing, and a bad thing. And the truth that times are changing, and people are different now can be scary. The factor of traditional societal roles are shifting.
You can grasp onto whatever strings of what used to be you like, but that's the plain and skinny of it.
And metrosexuality is not a fashion craze imo. Fashion changes everyday. It's more or less a realization that you don't have to be what society expects you to be.
If you want to look good and smell nice and get rid of absolutely unecessary body hair, you can. But there will always be those people who are afraid of change, and afraid of what their friends will think of them.
It's the same mentality of gay-bashers. A good percentage of them are gay themselves, but are willing to go to extreme measures to prove to their friends and to society that they aren't. Overcompensation, insecurity, and denial. Defensive denial. I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but there is a reason for it.

LOL, your entire post is so typical of your type, I wish I could have copied some other posts I've read by people like you- they're almost identical.

Here's the common theme:

"I'm not considered manly or attractive today, but times are changing and soon I'll be all the rage while you will go the way of the dodo.".

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. Women never want an oversensitive, incapable man who lacks manly attributes and confidence. Keep dreaming of a future that will never come, where people like you are considered good examples of "men".


You can tell me about my "type" and what women want for as long as you like, but at the end of the day, I'm not the one concerned about what a man should and shouldn't be.
This isn't a problem with me, or "metros", this is a problem with you and how you adapt to change within society and within yourself. Sorry.
 
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Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: aidanjm

Most heterosexual people are stupid, ignorance, whatever. I think that gay people are better than heterosexual people, in general.

heterophobic? what makes you any different than a homophobe?

I seem to recall you also posted about hoping that the Pope John Paul II would die soon... :disgust:
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Tell her sorry, but all us real men are taken.

QFT.. my two sis's mid 30's having a bitch of a time.
 

maziwanka

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damn. im surprised this thread is still alive....

however, i imagine somewhere along the line the thread topic changed direction, but i dont have the patience or interest to see what's going on.
 

Wadded Beef

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
I'm no metro, but this skank doesn't sound like the kind of quality woman that I'd date. She sounds like trailer trash.

rgr that...she desires hairy mullet wearing camaro driving rednecks, gross.
 

sxr7171

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Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
yeah this chick sounds like a real winner. she wants a guy with a mullet who listens to def leppard? i wasn't aware metrosexuals dated trailer trash.

That's the first thing I noticed. Who the hell listens to a trailer trash skank bitch?
 

sxr7171

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
I just can't wrap my brain around the fact that men are deliberately tossing away their gender intrinsic liberties. Simplicity the best part about being a guy, why piss that away?

i've been accused of being a metrosexual. but rest assured i don't own any hair products. a straightedge razor, shaving cream, a toothbrush, bar of soap. that's all. i just tend to dress better than the camaro driving mullet heads this hairy-twatted woman is after.

I'm not so sure I believe her twat really is hairy, tho. I sort of wonder how much of the article is real, and how much is exaggerated to make it "funny". She doesn't look like she's have a hairy twat from the picture.

It's just a way for her get attention and maybe get read. It looks like it worked.
 

DeeKnow

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
I'm no metro, but this skank doesn't sound like the kind of quality woman that I'd date. She sounds like trailer trash.


you said it

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Wadded Beef
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
I'm no metro, but this skank doesn't sound like the kind of quality woman that I'd date. She sounds like trailer trash.

rgr that...she desires hairy mullet wearing camaro driving rednecks, gross.
Not any grosser than some malnourished pimple faced geek with glasses.

 

91TTZ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

You can tell me about my "type" and what women want for as long as you like, but at the end of the day, I'm not the one concerned about what a man should and shouldn't be.
This isn't a problem with me, or "metros", this is a problem with you and how you adapt to change within society and within yourself. Sorry.

Man, if you told me that you came from a factory that produced the same type of juvenile twit I argued with before, I'd believe you, since your responses sound so typical and pre-canned.

Your flawed reasoning always revolves around "change" and how things are changing to the way you like. Young people often cannot see that they are consumed in a fad; in their eyes this is the way of the future. Although I bet in 10 years, you'll look back at this and realize, "oh man, that was embarrassing", just as your parents probably did with disco.

Proponents of this fad say that it's all about being clean, or looking good, but in reality when I go out and look around, what I see more closely resembles the South Park episode on this subject, or that jeans commercial posted the other day. I don't see manly men dressing metro, it's usually the 18-23 year old skinny 140 lb punks that do this. These are guys that aren't going to be considered desirable regardless of the fashion, that's why people like that are always coming up with lame new ways to rebel against society.

Trust me on this- metrosexuality is not the way of the future. It's a fad, a lame one at that, and people who are a little more mature can identify this and decide to let this fad pass. We're not going to be consumed in something which is just ridiculous.

 

skace

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Since I am too lazy to read this entire thread (got to page 2), I am just going to put down some realizations that often get ignored.

Metrosexual is the sum of a guy changing his appearance to impress a woman. This includes tanning, working out, eating healthy, dressing expensive, shaving, fragrances, steroids, expensive cars, and perfect teeth.

When the term metrosexual gets brought up, you always hear it likened to a scrawny geek with a popped collar who shaves everywhere. You never hear about the brad pitts that every woman swoons over. The guys who do steroids and are fvcking jacked. It would be like if everytime you heard the word athlete it was someone referring to a 40 year old man with a gut who talks about his days on the highschool football team instead of Jordan. This doesn't mean I think steroids are the cool thing to do or that I do them, but they are as much a part of the club scene or the metrosexual image as shaving is. These metrosexuals that are getting tons of women arn't weak or small.

That is reality. And I am a geek, my reality is that I am pale, weak, and lacking in dates. And reality for this lady is that she is retarded, hypocritical and a walking joke.
 

Zysoclaplem

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

You can tell me about my "type" and what women want for as long as you like, but at the end of the day, I'm not the one concerned about what a man should and shouldn't be.
This isn't a problem with me, or "metros", this is a problem with you and how you adapt to change within society and within yourself. Sorry.

Man, if you told me that you came from a factory that produced the same type of juvenile twit I argued with before, I'd believe you, since your responses sound so typical and pre-canned.

Your flawed reasoning always revolves around "change" and how things are changing to the way you like. Young people often cannot see that they are consumed in a fad; in their eyes this is the way of the future. Although I bet in 10 years, you'll look back at this and realize, "oh man, that was embarrassing", just as your parents probably did with disco.

Proponents of this fad say that it's all about being clean, or looking good, but in reality when I go out and look around, what I see more closely resembles the South Park episode on this subject, or that jeans commercial posted the other day. I don't see manly men dressing metro, it's usually the 18-23 year old skinny 140 lb punks that do this. These are guys that aren't going to be considered desirable regardless of the fashion, that's why people like that are always coming up with lame new ways to rebel against society.

Trust me on this- metrosexuality is not the way of the future. It's a fad, a lame one at that, and people who are a little more mature can identify this and decide to let this fad pass. We're not going to be consumed in something which is just ridiculous.

You can tell me I am wrong, and that my logic is flawed, until the cows come home. It doesn't matter. I'm not wrong, we just have different opinions on the subject.
You are focused on the physical aspect for some odd reason (skinny, punks, androgenous, unmasculine, thick black rimmed glasses wearing, too-tight shirt wearing etc etc), I am focused on the fact that it is changing the way people think and feel about who they are.
You no longer have to be what, wear what, and act like everyone else thinks you should.
If you wanna shave your chest, do it. If you want to wear very nice clothes and style your hair, that's cool. The only people who mind are those who are insecure with themselves, otherwise there is no reason to take an interest.

 

Phokus

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Why on earth would any woman want a neanderthal? Do you women really want a flabby, hairy guy with a mullet? That's disgusting.

I've been working out recently so i can get that toned, rippling muscle look that lots of metrosexuals have

 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Why on earth would any woman want a neanderthal? Do you women really want a flabby, hairy guy with a mullet? That's disgusting.

I've been working out recently so i can get that toned, rippling muscle look that lots of metrosexuals have

Let me dispel a couple of myths:

Myth1: If you're not a metrosexual, you're a flabby NASCAR watching hick.

False. You can be a well groomed man whose behavior allows no mistaking his identity as a man. No manicures, no pink shirts, no crying when watching Seabiscuit.

Myth2: If you hate metrosexuals, you hate gay people.

False. We hate imposters to purposely hide their identity as man. Why lessen your male characteristics by become skinny, shaving your hair and making your skin feel like a woman's?. In addition, just because someone is gay doesn't make them less of a man. Someone could even be the NASCAR watching hick and still be gay. If Brett Favre one day claimed he was gay, would that make him less manly? No. Gayness is sexual preference, it's not lame a fashion style. Besides, a fashionable gay dude is liable to laugh at a metro for their bold yet poor fashion sense.

A woman wants a man in the relationship, she doesn't want to marry a guy who acts like her sister.
 

Zysoclaplem

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Phokus
Why on earth would any woman want a neanderthal? Do you women really want a flabby, hairy guy with a mullet? That's disgusting.

I've been working out recently so i can get that toned, rippling muscle look that lots of metrosexuals have

Let me dispel a couple of myths:

Myth1: If you're not a metrosexual, you're a flabby NASCAR watching hick.

False. You can be a well groomed man whose behavior allows no mistaking his identity as a man. No manicures, no pink shirts, no crying when watching Seabiscuit.

Myth2: If you hate metrosexuals, you hate gay people.

False. We hate imposters to purposely hide their identity as man. Why lessen your male characteristics by become skinny, shaving your hair and making your skin feel like a woman's?. In addition, just because someone is gay doesn't make them less of a man. Someone could even be the NASCAR watching hick and still be gay. If Brett Favre one day claimed he was gay, would that make him less manly? No. Gayness is sexual preference, it's not lame a fashion style. Besides, a fashionable gay dude is liable to laugh at a metro for their bold yet poor fashion sense.

A woman wants a man in the relationship, she doesn't want to marry a guy who acts like her sister.

Let me dispel a couple of myths:

Myth 1: Body hair.

If you shave your hair off your arms, legs, chest, ass, etc...that doesn't mean you want your skin to look or feel like a womans. It could mean that you don't like body hair, or feel that is is unnecessary.

Myth 2: Being a man.

Being metro makes you less of a man, right? Wrong. A man is the male of the human species. Do you know what the difference is between a man and a woman? That's right, a man has a penis, and a woman has a vagina and breasts.
So therefor, if you have a penis, but shave your chest, you are still as much as a man as someone who doesn't shave his chest, because you have a penis.

Myth 3: What a woman wants.

Women don't like guys who shave their legs and arms and chests and nether regions. Women want men that are all natural, body hair and all. Wrong again.
I know plenty of girls who like men who take care of themselves and keep things nice and trimmed. Men who are self aware, and in touch with themselves. And I don't mean by scratching their asses every 5 minutes.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Let me dispel a couple of myths:

Myth 1: Body hair.

If you shave your hair off your arms, legs, chest, ass, etc...that doesn't mean you want your skin to look or feel like a womans. It could mean that you don't like body hair, or feel that is is unnecessary.

Myth 2: Being a man.

Being metro makes you less of a man, right? Wrong. A man is the male of the human species. Do you know what the difference is between a man and a woman? That's right, a man has a penis, and a woman has a vagina and breasts.
So therefor, if you have a penis, but shave your chest, you are still as much as a man as someone who doesn't shave his chest, because you have a penis.

Myth 3: What a woman wants.

Women don't like guys who shave their legs and arms and chests and nether regions. Women want men that are all natural, body hair and all. Wrong again.
I know plenty of girls who like men who take care of themselves and keep things nice and trimmed. Men who are self aware, and in touch with themselves. And I don't mean by scratching their asses every 5 minutes.

It's nice to see that you can imitate my post. From reading your replies, it's evident that you're not anything that could be mistaken for a manly man. That's abundantly clear. You are definitely part of generation that must go against the grain to "express yourself". Everything you write hints at naivety and inexperience, inferiority, and a boy always on the defensive.

Do you even have a girlfriend? How long do your relationships last? One thing's for certain- you're in touch withyourself all right. In touch with yourself every morning because you can't find a woman who likes a guy that acts like a spineless wimp. You're a pushover. I bet in social situations you are always on the defensive, afraid of more physically dominant males. Thus you must find an identity.
 
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