Rant: Do you speak the language of your country?

[divinemartyr]

I live in Texas, and it's a common thing for people in Texas to not know English. I don't want to stereotype anyone, so I'm not even going to name races. Tonight my girlfriend and I are in KMart, because Martha Stewart has cool decor stuff (plates, towels, etc) and it's not too expensive. So we can't find this one item that we KNOW they stock, so we go up to one of the employees and spend about a minute describing what we're looking for, and she looks at us and says "Uhm... no I don't know...". Well, from the look on her face, she looked as if I'd asked for her first born. She had NO clue what I said, yet she has a job in this country, and I don't. Go back to your home country and learn English before you come back!

I'm sorry if I offended anyone, I'm hoping by leaving any descriptions out, that this is left as a simple rant about learning the language.

dm

 

[Sluggo]

I concur

 

[GL]

<< yet she has a job in this country, and I don't >>



Hey don't get mad, that's capitalism If she can't speak English (you don't know for sure) she's probably in demand for speaking another language because it brings in money from clientele that prefer to speak that language. If you're that upset just don't shop at the store

I think you'd throw a fit if you saw a McDonald's menu in Chinese I have...in Canada!

Of course, you could start regulating the language in which private organizations do business. Then you end up with the Quebec Language Police

 

[pillage2001]

I'm......partially offended.

 

[DaejangNim]

it is the mexicans most of the time in the lower states bordering mexico, i live in socal, there is no denying that it is mexicans who make up most of the of people who don't know english. i have yet to meet an asian/middle eastern/euro/african/other who lives in the US, came from another country and still doesn't know english. i think the ones that know english should stay, the ones that dont, leave

 

[Linh]

so what does that say about you that you've been born and raised in this country yet can't find a job?

 

[Sluggo]

 

[SSP]

i think the ones that know english should stay, the ones that dont, leave

Land of the free indeed.

She had NO clue what I said, yet she has a job in this country, and I don't. Go back to your home country and learn English before you come back!

I'm sure they'll hire you if you are willing to work for a low paying jobs like a lot of these immigrants do. It's very hard to learn another language when you get older. But they should at least try to learn a bit of English. If it bothers you that much, you should complain to the management. You have that right as a paying customer.

 

[divinemartyr]

<< so what does that say about you that you've been born and raised in this country yet can't find a job? >>



Well it says two things. Number one that I've been unemployed less than 2 weeks first of all. I didn't say I could not FIND a job, just saying I don't have one currently.

The SECOND thing it says, is that I'm not settling for just any job this time. The last 2 jobs I've had, I've been recruited for, this time I am going to pick who I work for. I want something I'll enjoy for a long time and will stay at.

dm

 

[CattyKathy]

i agree, but not on the job thing, I mean, people should know the language if they're gonna live in that country, or at least try to learn it...

 

[Jfur]

who said English was the official language of the US?

 

[hans007]

you know i am from another country and i dont know the language there (filipino), english also happens to be one of their national languages. Now for the job thing, i dont agree with you. I think everyone should try to learn english, but had i not been from a country with english as one of the primary languages, my parents would probably have been in the same situation. I work at a PC company's refurbishment plant. There are probabaly 300 some employees, and i'd say 98% of them are mexican outside of the chinese management. Most of themn speak not very good or no english, but they get the job done . And they do a good job and they work really hard. They deserve to keep the jobs they have english speaking or not.

 

[divinemartyr]

<< Most of themn speak not very good or no english, but they get the job done . And they do a good job and they work really hard. They deserve to keep the jobs they have english speaking or not. >>



I'm talking about jobs where you have to help out customers. This employee was placed on KMart's floor to help customers and doesn't speak the primary language of this country. It's embarrassing.

dm

 

[gopunk]

who said English was the official language of the US?

excellent point.

you all need to listen to GL. don't like it, don't shop there, it's that simple. and contrary to what you may think, the world doesn't revolve around you. just because some worker wasn't able to answer your questions does not mean she should pack up all her belongings and move back to wherever she came from to learn english. that's recockulous.

divinematyr: i don't see your point when you write, &quot;She had NO clue what I said, yet she has a job in this country, and I don't&quot;. linh brought up the issue of why you don't have a job, and you talked about how you're in control of the situation and you're just being picky. well if it's your own fault that you don't have job, you shouldn't blame your unemployment on others.

and you're just going to shoot yourself in the foot, because when you stop allowing immigrants in, you're going to decrease the supply of unskilled workers, and raise prices for the things you buy.

 

[CattyKathy]

<< who said English was the official language of the US? >>

I dunno, aren't we speaking/typing in Japanese right now?

 

[gopunk]

I'm talking about jobs where you have to help out customers. This employee was placed on KMart's floor to help customers and doesn't speak the primary language of this country. It's embarrassing.

your beliefs will be hard to implement. people will have a problem when you start defining what types of jobs people are allowed to have based on the language they speak. this should be at the sole discretion of the employer.

 

[Ameesh]

you and your gf are insensitive bigots. i hope one of those immagrants has you cleaning their toliet one day.

 

[kingink]

<troll>out of a job for only two weeks and already shopping at kmart?
Also, since when is anything related to martha stewart cool? (she did drink a forty on conan o'brien, so giving her props for that action.)
</troll>
dm: do you speak any other languages than english? please don't forget that texas and most of the western united states was stolen from the Mexican people? Ever wonder why alot of the places have Spanish names?

who are you calling an immigrant, pilgrim?
(couldn't resist, it's on a poster on my wall.)

DaejangNim



<< . i have yet to meet an asian/middle eastern/euro/african/other who lives in the US, came from another country and still doesn't know english. i think the ones that know english should stay, the ones that dont, leave >>



haha, come to the esl class that I tutor.

 

[kingink]

haha, right on ameesh! and people wonder about the message in planet of the apes. sheesh.

 

[gopunk]

hey don't diss on k-mart though, they carry dickies (it's a brand...)

 

[divinemartyr]

<< dm: do you speak any other languages than english? please don't forget that texas and most of the western united states was stolen from the Mexican people? Ever wonder why alot of the places have Spanish names? >>



Fluently I only speak English, but then again I don't hold a job in a country whose primary language is English.

I had a feeling there might be a few differences of opinions here. My whole point was, if she was working there to help me, or anyone else that spoke English for that matter, then she should be able to speak English. If she didn't, she should work a job which doesn't require her to do so, until she has a better grasp on it.

You may disagree, that's your protected opinion to disagree, but that's how I feel.

dm

 

[pillage2001]

<< i agree, but not on the job thing, I mean, people should know the language if they're gonna live in that country, or at least try to learn it... >>



How do you know they're not learning??

 

[Ameesh]

<<

<< i agree, but not on the job thing, I mean, people should know the language if they're gonna live in that country, or at least try to learn it... >>



How do you know they're not learning?? >>




he doesnt know, cause he's simple white trash.

 

[kingink]

i agreed with you before ameesh, but name calling gets us nowhere. he is pissed at his own inadequacies and lack of compassion and understanding for others situations and humanity. Let us not reinforce it.

 

[j0lly]

<< I live in Texas, and it's a common thing for people in Texas to not know English. I don't want to stereotype anyone, so I'm not even going to name races. Tonight my girlfriend and I are in KMart, because Martha Stewart has cool decor stuff (plates, towels, etc) and it's not too expensive. So we can't find this one item that we KNOW they stock, so we go up to one of the employees and spend about a minute describing what we're looking for, and she looks at us and says &quot;Uhm... no I don't know...&quot;. Well, from the look on her face, she looked as if I'd asked for her first born. She had NO clue what I said, yet she has a job in this country, and I don't. Go back to your home country and learn English before you come back!

I'm sorry if I offended anyone, I'm hoping by leaving any descriptions out, that this is left as a simple rant about learning the language.

dm >>



After reading your post several times, I realized that you jump to conclusions. According to you, she said, &quot;Uhm... no I don't know...&quot; Sounds like English to me. How in the world did you conclude that she does not speak English? Maybe she is just a rude employee who didn't feel like helping you. $20 says, had she been a caucasian, you would have been ranting about the 'oh so bad service' they have at KMART. You should lighten up. :|