rant: New Hockey Rules!!!??? (POLL)

[Alex]

wtf !!! read this short article...

like honestly this is so ridiculous am i the only person around here that thinks hockey is fine as it is? i mean sure sometimes you have ties, (rarely scorless ties) and sometimes you have blowouts and sometimes you have regular 1-2 goal wins... whats wrong with that??
i mean honestly if its a good game i dont care if it ends 1-0 you know what i mean?

am i the only one? whats the skill in scoring goals if they put all these changes through... like wtf it would just be stupid and make goaltenders expendeble in the sense that i mean whats the point of having a stud goalie on the payroll like brodeur, turco or belfour if you know they will let in at least 2-3 goals per night anyway? so what shutouts aren't allowed anymore???

this fsckin sucks. :disgust: :|

 

[Aquaman]

I agree with the changes except the goalies not being able to handle the puck & shoot outs

The other stuff seems fair.

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Alex]

that is the worst... goalies not being able to handle the puck...omg

 

[mugs]

That's idiotic... goalies can't go behind the goal to get the puck? What's he supposed to do, just watch the other team skate up and take it? The smaller pads isn't AS bad...

Expanding the neutral zone isn't a bad idea... same with the 3 foot wide lines they were trying out to allow more breakaways.

 

[Viperoni]

I think they should have just moved the nets back but still allowed goalies to handle the puck.
I don't mind the skinnier goalie pads though.

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

I don't know about the goalie pads, I'm not a goalie nor do I know any. Goalies not handling the puck might be a bad thing to get rid of. Moving the nets back is a wonderful idea, it was idiotic to move them out in the first place. Getting rid of points and a shootout might be a dumb idea...though it would end each game with a definitive result rather than a "that was dull" feeling. I also don't know about the "tag up" rule, that was hockey before my time.

I still like Bobby Smith's idea of 6 foot wide center and blue lines though.

The problem with olympic sized rinks is you have to tear out seats in a ticket-revenue run league. If you widen the rink, you tear out several rows of the most expensive seats in the building. That could be tens of thousands of dollars lost per game, depending on the team. I like the idea of widening the rink, I just don't think it will ever happen.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: franguinho
wtf !!! read this short article...

like honestly this is so ridiculous am i the only person around here that thinks hockey is fine as it is? i mean sure sometimes you have ties, (rarely scorless ties) and sometimes you have blowouts and sometimes you have regular 1-2 goal wins... whats wrong with that??
i mean honestly if its a good game i dont care if it ends 1-0 you know what i mean?

am i the only one? whats the skill in scoring goals if they put all these changes through... like wtf it would just be stupid and make goaltenders expendeble in the sense that i mean whats the point of having a stud goalie on the payroll like brodeur, turco or belfour if you know they will let in at least 2-3 goals per night anyway? so what shutouts aren't allowed anymore???

this fsckin sucks. :disgust: :|

Scoring is way way down, over the past decade. The NHL is in for some tough times. Their TV viewership is way way down, from an already anemic level. Theres also going to be a strike next season.

There needs to be away to create some more scoring. You would still want a stud goalie because non stud goalies would still allow more goals.

IMHO, they dont need to prevent goalies from handling the puck, but they do need to make changes.

Making the pads smaller.
Using Olympic sized rinks.
No centerline/no two line pass.
OT till the score is no longer tied.

 

[Alex]

Originally posted by: Viperoni
I think they should have just moved the nets back but still allowed goalies to handle the puck.
I don't mind the skinnier goalie pads though.

but if you move the nets back you eliminate scoring plays from behind the net ... which are a good part of goals... i dunno i guess it could go either way... 4-4 so far hmmm

 

[Furyline]

I agree with the pads being smaller, and moving the goal back.
I think that goalies should be allowed to play puck behind the net, but I think they should make goalies fair game out of the crease. They should keep OT how it is, I think 4 on 4 for five minutes makes for some of the most exciting hockey of the regular season. I know I'm in the minority when I say I hate the idea of a shootout to break ties.

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

Originally posted by: franguinho

Originally posted by: Viperoni
I think they should have just moved the nets back but still allowed goalies to handle the puck.
I don't mind the skinnier goalie pads though.

but if you move the nets back you eliminate scoring plays from behind the net ... which are a good part of goals... i dunno i guess it could go either way... 4-4 so far hmmm

Don't forget Gretzky's famous "office" behind the net was just ten feet, not thirteen.

 

[silverpig]

It's odd cause they just moved the nets away from the boards a few years ago... Now they want to move them back.

Leave the goalies alone. Maybe make their pads smaller, but they damn well should be able to come out to play the puck.

The day the NHL institutes shootouts to decide games is the day I knock on Bettman's door and whoop his ass.

 

[ibintegra]

Goalies not being able to handle the puck is a horrible idea. Smaller pads are a good idea and I like 4on4 OT. Eliminating the neutral zone trap type defenses, all neutral zone interference, and having hurry up line changes/faceoffs should all be considered.

 

[JediJeb]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: franguinho
wtf !!! read this short article...

like honestly this is so ridiculous am i the only person around here that thinks hockey is fine as it is? i mean sure sometimes you have ties, (rarely scorless ties) and sometimes you have blowouts and sometimes you have regular 1-2 goal wins... whats wrong with that??
i mean honestly if its a good game i dont care if it ends 1-0 you know what i mean?

am i the only one? whats the skill in scoring goals if they put all these changes through... like wtf it would just be stupid and make goaltenders expendeble in the sense that i mean whats the point of having a stud goalie on the payroll like brodeur, turco or belfour if you know they will let in at least 2-3 goals per night anyway? so what shutouts aren't allowed anymore???

this fsckin sucks. :disgust: :|

Scoring is way way down, over the past decade. The NHL is in for some tough times. Their TV viewership is way way down, from an already anemic level. Theres also going to be a strike next season.

There needs to be away to create some more scoring. You would still want a stud goalie because non stud goalies would still allow more goals.

IMHO, they dont need to prevent goalies from handling the puck, but they do need to make changes.

Making the pads smaller.
Using Olympic sized rinks.
No centerline/no two line pass.
OT till the score is no longer tied.

I'm with most here on the pads maybe could be smaller but lets not mess with things just to get scores up, then Hockey will become what Pro basketball has become, boreing, not that scoreing is boreing but I dont want it to become like watching a tennis game where you go score in a minute then go the other way and score a minute later then back again. To me it is really about the competition not making some kind of spectacle like professional wrestling or something. As for the TV viewership being down, one easy remedy for that is to put games back on network TV instead of making us buy pay per view packages, if you dont have a top name cable provider or satalite you can't even get hockey games anymore that is my real gripe. I know many guys who love hockey but can't afford anything but an antenna or basic cable and they are just out of luck.

 

[Alex]

Originally posted by: TheBoyBlunder

Originally posted by: franguinho

Originally posted by: Viperoni
I think they should have just moved the nets back but still allowed goalies to handle the puck.
I don't mind the skinnier goalie pads though.

but if you move the nets back you eliminate scoring plays from behind the net ... which are a good part of goals... i dunno i guess it could go either way... 4-4 so far hmmm

Don't forget Gretzky's famous "office" behind the net was just ten feet, not thirteen.

good point... well i hope they leave it at at least 10 then

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

OT till the score is no longer tied.

I dunno about that. I remember seeing an 8-hour Penguins-Flyers playoff game 4 years ago that went into fifth or sixth overtime.

 

[JediJeb]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: digitalsm

OT till the score is no longer tied.

I dunno about that. I remember seeing an 8-hour Penguins-Flyers playoff game 4 years ago that went into fifth or sixth overtime.

Well that would give you your money's worth for the NHL Center Ice package.

 

[WhiteKnight]

I'd prefer to keep it as it is. However, I see the pad size change as the far lesser offense. Giving them two pads would be kind of a bummer as there's nothing quite like seeing a great glove save. To prevent them from handling the puck behind the line... that's just wrong, especially in Brodeur's case.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Forget the scoring part of the game. We need more fights. That's what real hockey is about. Look at all the small leages around like the CHL and the Montreal League. They are so popular because they allow fighting, infact they encourage it. Baseball has it right, when there is a fight EVERYONE gets involved. They need more bench clearing fights in hockey.

 

[dquan97]

Being a goalie, I think a 4 on 4 might be the best. The pad size is small enough to be manueverable, yet still offering the most protection

 

[fizmeister]

As an ice hockey player and avid pro fan, here are my thoughts:

Rule Change: Pads from 12" to 10"
Thoughts: It's about time, harking back to the good ol' days with sand-coloured padding, stained with wear, and small enough that skill actually played more of a factor.

Rule Change: Goaltenders not allowed to play the puck.
Thoughts: I disagree with this one. It's always entertaining watching Brodeur handle the puck, and I've seen him and other goaltenders screw it up in the clutch and give up a goal in the playoffs -- it's all in good fun. If they want to make tit more interesting, they should have it so that if the goaltender leaves the crease for the puck, he is treated exactly like a defenseman -- you can check the crap out of him .

Rule change consideration: Do away with ties.
Thoughts: I like this one; the game is less exciting as a result of the current implementations. I'm playing in a league right now which gives no ties -- overtime and a shootout are the best you can do, and it's absolutely exciting playing it, knowing that the game will end with someone victorious. Plus, I'm sure the players itch to get out there and end it.

Consideration: 4 on 4 play
Thoughts: I played in a four-on-four under-18 league a couple of years back, and it was much more action packed and high scoring -- less defensive and much more offensive (and, as a result, much more grueling). If the NHL considers it, I think it would be great for the game -- I mean, the rookie game was very entertainign to watch last Friday where they kept it four-on-four, and overtimes are a treat as a result of four-on-four. If the NHL feels it needs to attract a larger audience and hence needs to make the game more exciting, this is perhaps one of the most obvious changes that should be considered.

Rule change: Less stringent penalty shot rulings
Thoughts: I don't know about this one. Sure, it would be more exciting and probably create more scoring oppurtunities, but I can see it getting out of hand and resulting in too many penalty shots throughout the season -- they'll lose their novelty value. Plus, they are exciting in some sense, but quite unfair in another.

Oh, well. We'll see. I'm glad they're at least trying to do something about the NHL.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: TheBoyBlunder
I don't know about the goalie pads, I'm not a goalie nor do I know any. Goalies not handling the puck might be a bad thing to get rid of. Moving the nets back is a wonderful idea, it was idiotic to move them out in the first place. Getting rid of points and a shootout might be a dumb idea...though it would end each game with a definitive result rather than a "that was dull" feeling. I also don't know about the "tag up" rule, that was hockey before my time.

I still like Bobby Smith's idea of 6 foot wide center and blue lines though.

The problem with olympic sized rinks is you have to tear out seats in a ticket-revenue run league. If you widen the rink, you tear out several rows of the most expensive seats in the building. That could be tens of thousands of dollars lost per game, depending on the team. I like the idea of widening the rink, I just don't think it will ever happen.

not likely, you are losing the cheapest seats not the most expensive.

think about it, just because the rink is made bigger, do you honestly think that they will start charging LESS for ringside seats JUST because the rink was made bigger?? no, they will start at the same price and move back probably at about the same rate as before and really you'll only end up losing the back few rows Pricewise i mean.

 

[Bv3]

Moving the nets and expanding the neutral zone sounds good, but goalies should still be able to handle the puck. Also shootouts are so stupid. They should just play overtime until somebody scores.

 

[Dudd]

Not letting goalies play the puck is a terrible idea. It is a legitamate part of the game, imo. Decreasing equipment size, I'm not against that. Remove the red line, sure, why not. And, Olympic sized rinks would be nice. Shootouts would be terrible though. The main problem with hockey imo is that each individual game is meaningless. Either shorten the season to maybe 40-50 games, or decrease the amount of teams making the playoffs. That would inject more excitement into the season, as every game takes on greater importance. I love watching the playoffs because every shift could decide the fate of a team's season. When all you have to do is be average to make the playoffs, you get average hockey. If you make it so that team's have to be good to make the playoffs, then you will get better hockey.

 

[Sukhoi]

I hate the idea of the goalies not being able to move out to get the puck. Just think about powerplays! The shorthanded team clears the puck out and the defensemen are going to have to skate all the way to the other end of the rink to get the puck, and then bring it back. However, I think the goalies should have no extra protection when they are out of their little blue crease. That way they'll only go out to play the puck when the area is clear.

 

[Crappopotamus]

by not letting goalies play the puck, youre going to get a lot of hurt defensemen... on a long dump in the goalie would usually get, it gives a forechecker miles to get speed. theyre gonna get flat out creamed

i kinda like the 4on4 idea, though, it really gives room for skilled players to show their stuff. in overtime last season, mogilny would SHINE. with 4on4, there would no longer be room in the league for no talent clutch and grabbers. they would get burned all the time. i heard that the 4on4 idea got nearly no support from gms though