RANT **UPDATE**

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: Caminetto
Just be glad you didn't charge him anything or his computer would have been your responsibility for life. If he gave you a cupcake, that entitles him to free tech support, 24/7.

:shocked:

 

[oldfart]

Originally posted by: chilled
MSI has been good to me....Well, their non-value nForce2 board is quite decent.....

I think the problem lies with that KT400 chipset. It seems at best that only one or two manufacturers can make decent boards on those things.

I can tell you their Intel chipset boards are cr@p.

 

[Xernex]

That story makes me sick to the stomach.

I feel for ya nick.

 

[UK Frost]

No problems for me with MSI,they have all been great boards.
You pay your money you take your chance.Thats life.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Pro bono work is often a case of "no good deed goes unpunished", but it's good karma kid :light: Help as best you can and if you can't walk him through it, have him return it all and buy an OEM with warranty and tech support is my advice

 

[Seeruk]

I love a great rant

Keep up the good work son

 

[RedShirt]

Charge a fee! That gets people to stop asking questions FAST.

 

[lobadobadingdong]

Originally posted by: jdogg707
MSI sucks. So do just about all of his parts. Tell him to take them all back and buy a HP or Compaq.

I've always had good luck with MSI boards, the kt4vl is the only msi board I've ever had problems with, and a bios update fixed it. (crc errors on the ide channels) but either way those prices :Q

 

[htmlmasterdave]

Yeah not sure about the rants against MSI, their 865PE board I had wasn't that great, but it wasn't a HORRIBLE board, it still worked and was stable. (Replaced it with an Abit AI7, which IS a superior board) My parents box is running a KT4V-L as well, and it's been to be honest perfect since the day I plugged it in, exceptionally stable and snappy. I'm also running a K7T Turbo LE in my Linux box, and my sister's duron is a K7T Turbo 2, they both are extremely good.

 

[imported_NoGodForMe]

I don't help others with their computers for the above reasons.
Only my mom, dad, and mine.
I've had many people ask me if I can build them a machine and I say no.
The problem with computers, is there are so many things that can go wrong, and when it does, you get called at work, and they expect you to fix it over the phone.
You basically become tech support for free.

 

[batmanuel]

Originally posted by: Odinnson
MSI is pure garbage..not the board that gets hand picked and tested for review here at Anand...the board you buy out there on the street. Buy Biostar if you need a really cheap board...at least it will work.

Anyone who buy's parts at CompUSA if not an emergency is an idiot...why help an idiot when your just going to get an idiotic response? Wash your hands of dip@#$% people like that.

I will say that I did get a nice deal from them on an Antec power supply one time. Not too long ago, they had a Radeon 9800 AIW for $250 after rebates, which was a pretty nice deal as well. Like most places that aren't Newegg, you have to check the ads religiously and grab the good deals when the come around. I have to laugh when I go in and see an A7N8X-Deluxe being sold for almost $200 over at their parts desk, though.

You know I actually saw a CompUSA truck parked out front of my local PC Club a few times. I swear they are going over there, paying full retail price for their motherboards and CPUs, and then marking them up starting from the retail price they paid at PC Club.

On the bright side, at least the guy didn't go grab a full retail version of Win XP Pro off of the self for $300 for his OS. At least I hope he didn't.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Yeah. Parts desk prices == highway robbery. Loss-leader holiday sales == good deal, but they sell out quick sometimes.

PS. Anyone know why, plugging in a LinkSys WUSB54G wireless USB 2.0 802.11g adaptor, would cause my HD's burst transfer rate to drop to 60-75% of what it used to be? HDTach shows 60MB/s *burst*, when it should be closer to 90MB/s. I've done some A/B testing, and the wireless USB 2.0 NIC is definately the cause. But it shouldn't be stealing that much bandwidth, certainly.

I've seen other posts on Via's and MSI's forums, specifically about Via-chipset mobos including the KT400, that performance is decreased dramatically, when adding certain wireless devices.

 

[nick1985]

^ for a happy ending.

 

[nick1985]

come on guys get mad with me :|

 

[InlineFive]

Not everyone is as educated as you and I are about computers and simply don't know better. Instead of going postal on him why don't you kindly () explain this to him so he makes a better decision in the future.

Oh, and point him toward the forums.

 

[nick1985]

i didnt go postal(yet). i have yet to talk to him since this escapade tonight where him and his friend had an apparent circle jerk blaming me for his computer woes.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: nick1985
i didnt go postal(yet). i have yet to talk to him since this escapade tonight where him and his friend had an apparent circle jerk blaming me for his computer woes.

Ah. I would think that after all your posts on this subject you would have refrained from offering your services again.

 

[magomago]

sorry but its your fault. You should remember if someone knows NOTHING about computers and you barely get the thing working...that chances are they will easily mess up something thinking they know what is going on.

Who cares if you don't like the parts. You may not like a 5700LE but that doesn't mean its a crap system. You may not like the memory manufactorer (not all PNY is crap. Just because it isn't hardcore enthusiast brand name doesn't mean its crap) doesn't mean its crap. the only thing i can think of that is a valid complaint of what he bought was the psu. A generic psu isn't always bad, i've seen brand names suck monkey ****.

But you clearly biased yourself by labeling all he bought as crap. Inefficient on his part? OF COURSE! Who the in world buys a via mobo that expensive- kt400 wasn't all that great (step back from kt333 imo) but to run around labeling it as crap is nothing. furthmore when you build a comptuer for someone expect them to blame ANY problems on you. I bet you barely got the pc running, and something got screwed so he started to play around with it and he fubared it more. So what does he do? Complain it on your and say you did a bunch of B.S.

That is why when you see a bad sign...don't pursue it. What do i say do now? Go back and genuinely work on it and see what the fault is. If you notice something isn't right ie: he palyed with something point it out and make him know you realize he tried to blame it on you. But this time...CHARGE him and say "Because you acted like an a$$ wellcome to my computer store." and make him pay for your time and energy you spent on it.

but in the end, its your fault you got into a quagmire like this. Next time don't let your love to slap together a few parts cloud your better judgement

 

[nick1985]

barely got it working? i ran 3dmark and prime 95 for a few hours( i told him to leave prime running for at least a day, he failed to do so) but everything was working just fine and passed these tests with no hiccup. i also ran memtest with no errors. and you expect me to just get up and leave college and drive home to help him fix his computer? i never even recieved my first thank you, so sorry charlie

and if you would read the OP, you would find i did this as basically a friend to my brother, who is his age and his friend, not to just "slap parts together"

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

Originally posted by: magomago
sorry but its your fault. You should remember if someone knows NOTHING about computers and you barely get the thing working...that chances are they will easily mess up something thinking they know what is going on.

Who cares if you don't like the parts. You may not like a 5700LE but that doesn't mean its a crap system. You may not like the memory manufactorer (not all PNY is crap. Just because it isn't hardcore enthusiast brand name doesn't mean its crap) doesn't mean its crap. the only thing i can think of that is a valid complaint of what he bought was the psu. A generic psu isn't always bad, i've seen brand names suck monkey ****.

But you clearly biased yourself by labeling all he bought as crap. Inefficient on his part? OF COURSE! Who the in world buys a via mobo that expensive- kt400 wasn't all that great (step back from kt333 imo) but to run around labeling it as crap is nothing. furthmore when you build a comptuer for someone expect them to blame ANY problems on you. I bet you barely got the pc running, and something got screwed so he started to play around with it and he fubared it more. So what does he do? Complain it on your and say you did a bunch of B.S.

That is why when you see a bad sign...don't pursue it. What do i say do now? Go back and genuinely work on it and see what the fault is. If you notice something isn't right ie: he palyed with something point it out and make him know you realize he tried to blame it on you. But this time...CHARGE him and say "Because you acted like an a$$ wellcome to my computer store." and make him pay for your time and energy you spent on it.

but in the end, its your fault you got into a quagmire like this. Next time don't let your love to slap together a few parts cloud your better judgement

you are the kid aren't you magomago...confess!!!

good rant nick, just remember to breathe, and then hit him with a shovel. i'd tell him to take the parts back if he still can and get a dell, at least he would have someone else to bug. surprisingly it would even be less of a rip off

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer

Originally posted by: magomago
sorry but its your fault. You should remember if someone knows NOTHING about computers and you barely get the thing working...that chances are they will easily mess up something thinking they know what is going on.

Who cares if you don't like the parts. You may not like a 5700LE but that doesn't mean its a crap system. You may not like the memory manufactorer (not all PNY is crap. Just because it isn't hardcore enthusiast brand name doesn't mean its crap) doesn't mean its crap. the only thing i can think of that is a valid complaint of what he bought was the psu. A generic psu isn't always bad, i've seen brand names suck monkey ****.

But you clearly biased yourself by labeling all he bought as crap. Inefficient on his part? OF COURSE! Who the in world buys a via mobo that expensive- kt400 wasn't all that great (step back from kt333 imo) but to run around labeling it as crap is nothing. furthmore when you build a comptuer for someone expect them to blame ANY problems on you. I bet you barely got the pc running, and something got screwed so he started to play around with it and he fubared it more. So what does he do? Complain it on your and say you did a bunch of B.S.

That is why when you see a bad sign...don't pursue it. What do i say do now? Go back and genuinely work on it and see what the fault is. If you notice something isn't right ie: he palyed with something point it out and make him know you realize he tried to blame it on you. But this time...CHARGE him and say "Because you acted like an a$$ wellcome to my computer store." and make him pay for your time and energy you spent on it.

but in the end, its your fault you got into a quagmire like this. Next time don't let your love to slap together a few parts cloud your better judgement

you are the kid aren't you magomago...confess!!!

good rant nick, just remember to breathe, and then hit him with a shovel. i'd tell him to take the parts back if he still can and get a dell, at least he would have someone else to bug. surprisingly it would even be less of a rip off

No i'm not the kid. And Ifind it an insulte to insinuate i'm some idiot that THINKS i know about computer that like that nick1985 had to deal with obviously is. Write something substancial rather than flame baiting other users.

And nick, how can you say its total crap if you got it up running just fine? Obvously you can't say its the best out there, its totally inefficient, but because you may not like PNY or a 5700LE or whatever he used doesn't mean you should have that bias. At best that should make you happy that you won't get ripped off like that. Don't you realize that idiocy and computers don't mix? To me i'd rather have someone plead totally ignorant to computers rather than someone who THINKS they know what they are doing.

Remember nick~ i've seen you post in MANY "biuld a pc for a friend" threads, and someone as bad as this kid should have been a huge warning sign.

Either way Iwouldn't let him sit there and talk trash. And all i'm doing is criticizing that you offered to build the pc for the "time bomb" so to say...

 

[MrCodeDude]

Just stop helping people. I just play the stupid card.

 

[Zebo]

nick only one to blame is you.. you're nuts for even working on those second rate parts. Another thing, is never do free work unless it's for a family member you like or a** you're tying to get. If he let you or trusted you to choose his parts then maybe as goodwill I would have done it depending how much he massaged my ego for saving him a bundle.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: nick1985
if you would read the OP, you would find i did this as basically a friend to my brother, who is his age and his friend, not to just "slap parts together"

That was your mistake right there. Unless the person is a direct friend of your own, you should charge them. Otherwise you're just opening yourself up to be taken advantage of, which you obviously have been.

At this point you're probably stuck replacing the hardware and RMAing some stuff.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: oldfart

Originally posted by: nick1985
let me say this, I HATE MSI :|.

yep...ive had msi gear before.....nevar again!

this time i built my rig my self......quality parts only, ASUS, Enermax, Leadtek, Zalman, Creative

MSI can go die