Rap: Is it Music?

[edro]

YES!

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yes, it's music.

 

[Sachmho]

not all music is definable by the suggested parameters... it all depends on society and culture... b/c u dont like it doesn't mean its not music

 

[xirtam]

A local boy kicked me in the butt last week,
i just smiled at him, and I turned the other cheek.


Yeah. Music.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: dcpsoguy
I am talking about 99% of rap: THE VAST MAJORITY.

Tell me of a rap song that has a noticable melody, maybe some strings, guitar: I dunno.

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[AnyMal]

No it's not msuic. However, it's still a type of art form and has every right to exist.

 

[BeauJangles]

It's music. I don't like most of it, but it definately is music.

 

[Siddhartha]

You may not like it but yes it is music.

 

[0roo0roo]

the rythmic clacking of my keyboard is music

 

[dawks]

Yes.

 

[cavdraco]

Originally posted by: ausm
RAP=CRAP


Ausm

that abot sums it up

Cav

 

[ProviaFan]

Some rap artists (definitely not the popular ones that most teens listen to) do have talent, though imho it is more in the lyrical sense than in the musical one. I suppose rap could be considered music, but personally, I hate it, and rather prefer much more "musical" styles.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: dcpsoguy
Here's a question that enters my brain quite a few times a day: Why is rap considered music?

Rap is simply foul-mouthed poetry with some random sound effects. There is no melody, no noticable chord progressions, or nothing that would even be considered music.

Thoughts?

i'm sure its been posted b4 on here, but i want to say that a lot of rock is foul mouthed as well. And what is yelling in a microphone good for with a song about how some girl mistreated you or some sh*t. thats just as bad as some fool rapping about cars and ho's.

 

[BlamoHammer]

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: dcpsoguy
I am talking about 99% of rap: THE VAST MAJORITY.

Tell me of a rap song that has a noticable melody, maybe some strings, guitar: I dunno.

Are you a retard? A guitar? There is PLENTY of music that doesn't use stuff like guitars. Making beats is just as difficult as using your thumb on some strings.

You obviously know nothing about rap.

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[chibchakan]

Rap: Is it Music?

Yes it's music.

 

Rap is music but I doubt 90% of the rappers know what a chord or scale is.

 

[Bushwicktrini]

Originally posted by: dwell
Rap is music but I doubt 90% of the rappers know what a chord or scale is.

They do as most good rappers stay on the beat of the music they are rapping to. What alot of the rap=crap crowd doesn't take into account is the same way that a band gets together and "jams" the the lead singer or song writer writes a song to the "jam" it is the same way with rap someone bangs out a beat and the rapper raps. Also to the fact that "all rap is about hoes/money/drugs/cars/diamond etc" get to much press as alot of other posters already said diff rappers talk about diff stuff. I could say that all reggae music was is about weed and girls but then you have Bob Marley to counter that and it is the same thing with rap. While I'm still not sure why white kids love it I know for me rap talks about what I know well not the hummers and stuff but the hussle the drug game and stuff like that. "Gangster" rap is what was really going on when I was growing up everyday someone got shot/stabbed in NYC and I'm sure it was/is like that in Cali and other places. I will however agree the the MTV/BET rap is getting old fast because like most of the stuff on TV/Radio it is all starting to sound the same. But then I thought all country music was I lost my woman/my dog got shot/my pickup's got a flat and the bar ran out of beer till I was in the navy and I heard that I will always love you was a country song sung by dolly parton

 

[Dreadogg]

Originally posted by: compudog
I wouldn't call it music. I believe it is an art-form though.

So is wackin your willy, some rap is good but most is ushally stolen beats or reproduced songs. Lots of the lyrics are about drugs, control, and dirty sex mostly forming from lack of sex respect. This is something you really do not want your kids listening to. I use to listen to hardcore rap music years back, groups such as wutang clan etc.. only use to make me crazy get into fights, do drugs have lots of sex with extreamy good looking women etc.. same with hard rock, punk rock whatever you want to call it really influences your way of thinking. Oh yea I still have lots of sex with a extreamy good looking women, just one though my crazy days are over now.

 

[Dreadogg]

While I'm still not sure why white kids love it I know for me rap talks about what I know well not the hummers and stuff but the hussle the drug game and stuff like that. "Gangster" rap is what was really going on when I was growing up everyday someone got shot/stabbed in NYC and I'm sure it was/is like that in Cali and other places.

lol, what do you think that black people are the only ones that live in the city? Wake up dude your race is not alone in the struggle G! Oh yea is'nt a white rapper the number one selling artist? go ahead correct me if Im wrong, but I think he grew up in the struggle also.

 

[ohtwell]

I think rap is music.

I'd love to see any one who says it isn't try to do it. It's idiotic to believe that it takes no talent or skill. Just because you don't like the way something sounds, or enjoy the style, doesn't make it any less a form of music. I don't like the way most country sounds but it's still music and it takes just as much skill as rapping.


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[Parrotheader]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
It's music. I don't like most of it, but it definately is music.

Same here. I've seen people list all these rappers in these threads that I've never heard of so I'd download the songs they recommended hoping to be finding a whole other world of rap that might appeal to me more, but so far no luck. There are certainly quite a few rap songs that I do like very much, but by and large the genre (along with techno where there's also quite a few songs I like) just don't do it for me most of the time. I guess it's just personal preference. I think a lot of it is based on lifestyle and mood. I tend to like things that keep me relaxed and in a good mood. The vast majority of both of these genres tend to be too dark and intense for my tastes and usually stress me out or get me depressed after listening to them for too long. And I realize there's technical skill required on the production end of these songs - not to mention the artistic end when it comes to the actual lyrics and/or any musical novelties thrown in to try and make the song sound unique. But seeing as how the beats and rhythms are the driving force behind these genres of music (even more so than other genres IMO) and after seeing how easily my brother could throw together a VERY smooth sounding rap/techno track (granted he does studio engineering professionally so it came a lot easier for him) it only further reinforced my impression that the musical core of the rap genre is rather cold. But like I said at the beginning it IS music.

 

[0roo0roo]

if i stretch the definition, my posts are poetry

 

[0roo0roo]

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[Cerb]

Why is Heavy Metal considered music? People screaming at the top of their lungs so you can't hear what the hell they're saying doesn't sound much like music. Go Figure.

This entire thread comes down to that argument. There are many of those metal bands where you can hear what they are saying, it fits, and it makes sense. But then, there's also good, and 1000x more bad, country, FI.

 

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[Bushwicktrini]

Originally posted by: Dreadogg

While I'm still not sure why white kids love it I know for me rap talks about what I know well not the hummers and stuff but the hussle the drug game and stuff like that. "Gangster" rap is what was really going on when I was growing up everyday someone got shot/stabbed in NYC and I'm sure it was/is like that in Cali and other places.

lol, what do you think that black people are the only ones that live in the city? Wake up dude your race is not alone in the struggle G! Oh yea is'nt a white rapper the number one selling artist? go ahead correct me if Im wrong, but I think he grew up in the struggle also.

I'm talkin about that the fact the 70-80% of rap sales are in the suburbs and those kids are the ones who I was talking about. Em grew up in Detroit which was/is pretty bad but if you listen to his raps he is still rapping about where/how he grew up and that is what 50/Biggie/Tupac all started rapping about their lives as they knew at that time. After you sell a million records your life changes and that I guess means that you now talk about that. But what does a kid in the hamptons know about sleeping on the floor because the drug dealers are fighting and he/she might get shot thru the window?