Raptor (10,000 RPM) 74 GB on sale at NewEgg! $235!!!

[11thHour]

Enviably fast but I'm going to wait a while until prices drop and they've proven to be reliable.

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: Bot69

Originally posted by: MonkeyDriveExpress
Using different models of drives just opens you up for problems.

Could you elaborate please

I've seen problems that crop up from using unlike drives in a RAID0 array (data corruption mostly). Also IMO, it's kinda dumb to waste 40GB of space on the 120GB drive.

 

[ThisIsMatt]

Originally posted by: amdskip
How can they stamp a 5 year warranty on these drives, are they just that good?

Probably because at this price you're paying 5x over cost, so they can afford to replace it 5x

 

[Azzkikr6969]

Prices on this drive have fallen 60 bucks since December. It's most likely it will fall even more.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Performance is nice, but $3/gig sucks.

What he said.

-Por

 

[Yo2]

Originally posted by: Enoch2001

Originally posted by: Yo2

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
There is a review at storagereview.com

I know but I'd like to see how these puppies are doing in raid

Apparently, just *one* of these do better than two of the original 36 GB in RAID 0, so I would fathom that 2 of the 74 GB versions in RAID 0 would do even better. However, just one is fast enough for my needs - data is more important to me than the speed I would achieve by running a couple in 0.

I'm running it off of an Asus A7N8X-Deluxe; plan to use the latest Uber BIOS that can be found on amdmb.com's forums. Apparently some good performance benefits from the Uber's.

Cheers,

EnochLight

And the point you are trying to make is.....?

 

[Enoch2001]

Originally posted by: Yo2

Originally posted by: Enoch2001

Originally posted by: Yo2

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
There is a review at storagereview.com

I know but I'd like to see how these puppies are doing in raid

Apparently, just *one* of these do better than two of the original 36 GB in RAID 0, so I would fathom that 2 of the 74 GB versions in RAID 0 would do even better. However, just one is fast enough for my needs - data is more important to me than the speed I would achieve by running a couple in 0.

I'm running it off of an Asus A7N8X-Deluxe; plan to use the latest Uber BIOS that can be found on amdmb.com's forums. Apparently some good performance benefits from the Uber's.

Cheers,

EnochLight

And the point you are trying to make is.....?

He asked how they do in RAID 0; I pointed out that one does better than two of the older in RAID 0. OK?

 

[cerebusPu]

I'll buy when they are under $200. at this rate it would be end of march.

 

[batmanuel]

As far as RAID capability and drive speed goes, let's not forget that these new Raptors support Native Command Queuing, one of the nicer features of SCSI drives, which processes the read and write commands in a seqence optimized for the best speed. NCQ isn't currently supported by any of the RAID controllers out there right now, but soon Silcon Image should release some drivers that add this capability to their Sil3512 and Sil3114 chips, with the soon to be released Sil3124 doing it in hardware.

Once these chips get integrated into the next generation boards and Intel puts a NCQ supprting version of their ICH southbridge on their chipsets, and they can get those controllers hooked into a PCI-Exress bus so it isn't bottlenecked, you won't want anything but a pair of Raptor 74s storage on your high end PCs (maybe with a big old PATA drive thrown in for stuff that you don't access as often but want to keep handy).

Of course for the time being, with my dinky little non-NCQ supporting SATA RAID controller on my board I'll probably content myself with a pair of the first gen Raptors when the price goes down below $100 each.

 

[Yo2]

Originally posted by: Enoch2001

Originally posted by: Yo2

Originally posted by: Enoch2001

Originally posted by: Yo2

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
There is a review at storagereview.com

I know but I'd like to see how these puppies are doing in raid

Apparently, just *one* of these do better than two of the original 36 GB in RAID 0, so I would fathom that 2 of the 74 GB versions in RAID 0 would do even better. However, just one is fast enough for my needs - data is more important to me than the speed I would achieve by running a couple in 0.

I'm running it off of an Asus A7N8X-Deluxe; plan to use the latest Uber BIOS that can be found on amdmb.com's forums. Apparently some good performance benefits from the Uber's.

Cheers,

EnochLight

And the point you are trying to make is.....?

He asked how they do in RAID 0; I pointed out that one does better than two of the older in RAID 0. OK?

No it's not OK:

You simply express a guess - I was asking for benchmarks or more objective information - like how much faster can I expect this to be than a 120 GB/8MB cache 7200rpm drive. Or how fast does his system boot or something else that is quantifiable and thus comparable to other drives.

Peace

 

[ValsalvaYourHeartOut]

Originally posted by: Yo2

Originally posted by: Enoch2001

Originally posted by: Yo2

Originally posted by: Enoch2001

Originally posted by: Yo2

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
There is a review at storagereview.com

I know but I'd like to see how these puppies are doing in raid

Apparently, just *one* of these do better than two of the original 36 GB in RAID 0, so I would fathom that 2 of the 74 GB versions in RAID 0 would do even better. However, just one is fast enough for my needs - data is more important to me than the speed I would achieve by running a couple in 0.

I'm running it off of an Asus A7N8X-Deluxe; plan to use the latest Uber BIOS that can be found on amdmb.com's forums. Apparently some good performance benefits from the Uber's.

Cheers,

EnochLight

And the point you are trying to make is.....?

He asked how they do in RAID 0; I pointed out that one does better than two of the older in RAID 0. OK?

No it's not OK:

You simply express a guess - I was asking for benchmarks or more objective information - like how much faster can I expect this to be than a 120 GB/8MB cache 7200rpm drive. Or how fast does his system boot or something else that is quantifiable and thus comparable to other drives.

Peace

I have a really hard time believing that a single 74GB Raptor can outperform 2x36GB Raptor's in RAID0 in sustained transfer rate (STR)...this would require the 74GB model to have TWICE the sustained read speed as the 36GB, which it clearly does not. For STR-intensive activities such as bootup and editing large files, the RAID0 36GB's should win hands down.

Valsalva

 

[Enoch2001]

Originally posted by: Yo2

And the point you are trying to make is.....?

He asked how they do in RAID 0; I pointed out that one does better than two of the older in RAID 0. OK?[/quote]

No it's not OK:

You simply express a guess - I was asking for benchmarks or more objective information - like how much faster can I expect this to be than a 120 GB/8MB cache 7200rpm drive. Or how fast does his system boot or something else that is quantifiable and thus comparable to other drives.

Peace [/quote]

Yes Yo2, it *is* OK - don't get your panties in a bundle. It's not a guess; I surmised this from reading what others have reported in comparison. Sorry; can't point you to any benchmarks or any other information that would allow you to draw a clear conclusion. Perhaps you should buy a couple of the old ones and RAID 'em; then pick the newer one up @ NewEgg and compare - it's on sale and all.. ;-)

On NewEgg's customer review of the newer drive, one of the users of the older 36 versions stated that he currently runs 2 in RAID 0 and gets between 4-5ms at read/write. Taking into consideration that the new 74 offers a solid 4.5 seek time, I'd just assume forget running two of the olders in RAID 0 as opposed to 1 of the newer by itself. Running two the new ones in RAID 0 I'm sure would be even faster...of course, I'm just expressing a guess...

Cheers,

EnochLight

 

[Enoch2001]

Originally posted by: ValsalvaYourHeartOut

Originally posted by: Yo2

Originally posted by: Enoch2001

Originally posted by: Yo2

Originally posted by: Enoch2001

Originally posted by: Yo2

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
There is a review at storagereview.com

I have a really hard time believing that a single 74GB Raptor can outperform 2x36GB Raptor's in RAID0 in sustained transfer rate (STR)...this would require the 74GB model to have TWICE the sustained read speed as the 36GB, which it clearly does not. For STR-intensive activities such as bootup and editing large files, the RAID0 36GB's should win hands down.

Valsalva

Fair enough; I'm sure STR would be something hard to beat with a single 74. Perhaps I should have said this instead: as the seek time of the newer 74 GB version is an average of 4.5 ms and users have reported an average seek time between 4-5 ms running two of the older 36 GB versions in RAID 0, I would feel more comfortable using a single drive as the integrity of my data is more important to me than the seek times I may obtain running two of the older 36 GB versions. However, it appears as though more intensive STR activities might warrant two of the older drives...if you can deal with such a paltry hard disc size. Again, just expressing a guess. Actually, let me rephrase that: I'm just expressing an opinion. ;-)

Cheers,

EnochLight

 

[souja]

There's a really good search engine out there called, uh, Google.

http://www.overclockers.com.au/article.php?id=245846&P=2

http://www.benscustomcases.com/reviews/sataraid/index.htm

 

[Yo2]

Originally posted by: Enoch2001

Originally posted by: Yo2

And the point you are trying to make is.....?

He asked how they do in RAID 0; I pointed out that one does better than two of the older in RAID 0. OK?

No it's not OK:

You simply express a guess - I was asking for benchmarks or more objective information - like how much faster can I expect this to be than a 120 GB/8MB cache 7200rpm drive. Or how fast does his system boot or something else that is quantifiable and thus comparable to other drives.

Peace [/quote]

Yes Yo2, it *is* OK - don't get your panties in a bundle. It's not a guess; I surmised this from reading what others have reported in comparison. Sorry; can't point you to any benchmarks or any other information that would allow you to draw a clear conclusion. Perhaps you should buy a couple of the old ones and RAID 'em; then pick the newer one up @ NewEgg and compare - it's on sale and all.. ;-)

On NewEgg's customer review of the newer drive, one of the users of the older 36 versions stated that he currently runs 2 in RAID 0 and gets between 4-5ms at read/write. Taking into consideration that the new 74 offers a solid 4.5 seek time, I'd just assume forget running two of the olders in RAID 0 as opposed to 1 of the newer by itself. Running two the new ones in RAID 0 I'm sure would be even faster...of course, I'm just expressing a guess...

Cheers,

EnochLight[/quote]


I don't wear panties

Regarding your post - my point exactly you are trying to be helpful by responding to my thread but you are adding nothing that I asked for, but your conclusions on information you saw elsewhere and your own feelings and assumptions about something you do not own yourself.

No offence but that was not what I was asking for...

Peace

Yo

 

[Enoch2001]

Originally posted by: Yo2I don't wear panties

Regarding your post - my point exactly you are trying to be helpful by responding to my thread but you are adding nothing that I asked for, but your conclusions on information you saw elsewhere and your own feelings and assumptions about something you do not own yourself.

No offence but that was not what I was asking for...

Peace

Yo

With all do respect, you asked "how these puppies are doing in raid". I'd say it's a pretty safe assumption that 2 of the new drives in RAID would do quite well, a conclusion that I and anyone else who has read anything on them can assume from well known information anyone can collect through a quick search via Google. I'm sorry if my post mislead you, or didn't offer anything prudent to what you would perceive as an answer - I just assumed it was implied. Hard numbers I did not have, but I felt my comments were worth saying.

I'm not offended; we're all good, you and me Yo2. I guess I was just a little taken back when you responded to me (an absolute stranger attempting to engage in friendly conversation), a reponse such as "And the point you are trying to make is.....?" I think I misinterpreted that statement as being facetious. I think I realize now that wasn't your intention; your just trying to obtain hard numbers so you can draw your own conclusion. We're all good.

Cheers,

EnochLight

 

[nippyjun]

HI, It looks like this drive can use a standard 4 pin power connector. Is this correct?

 

[Mustanggt]

Geez Newegg runs Sale on this drive over weekend then ends sale and drops price $4 Now it $230.99

 

[Enoch2001]

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
Geez Newegg runs Sale on this drive over weekend then ends sale and drops price $4 Now it $230.99

They also slapped the old 36 GB version on sale for $109 (one day only as of 2-23-04); anybody want to run RAID 0 on those will only spend $218 shipped - not too shabby if you can deal with the size!

Cheers,

EnochLight

 

[dirtrat]

For anyone who bought the 74 Gig Raptor from Newegg, can you input the drives serial number on western digitals site to see how much warranty you have? There has been some comments that newegg was selling drives that were intended to be sold overseas and Western Digital USA was not honoring the 5 year warranty.

Originally posted by: Enoch2001

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
Geez Newegg runs Sale on this drive over weekend then ends sale and drops price $4 Now it $230.99

They also slapped the old 36 GB version on sale for $109 (one day only as of 2-23-04); anybody want to run RAID 0 on those will only spend $218 shipped - not too shabby if you can deal with the size!

Cheers,

EnochLight

 

[Enoch2001]

Not sure; I'm out of town at the moment, but once I get back I'll punch mine in. Hope not; although even if WD didn't honor the warranty, I'd have issue with Newegg.com since they advertise a 5 year. It would still be covered in that case; it would just be something that would have to be taken up with Newegg in some shape or manner.

Cheers,

EnochLight

 

[Guinness]

And at the bottom of the Raptor description page:

1 Piece Mail in Rebate $20 (single order qualify - limit one per household)
2 Pieces Mail in Rebate $50 (minimum order 2 piece to qualify - limit one per household)

So is the current $227 price before or after rebate? $207 would be a darn fine deal.

 

[JBT]

I got my Raptor from newegg the other day for $234-$20MIR = 214. According to WD my warrenty will run out in 2/07/09. So yeah mines got a warrenty.

 

[dirtrat]

Excellent, thanks for checking. With the $20.00 rebate I may finally pick one up at newegg. How do you like yours so far?

Originally posted by: JBT
I got my Raptor from newegg the other day for $234-$20MIR = 214. According to WD my warrenty will run out in 2/07/09. So yeah mines got a warrenty.

 

[JBT]

So far I like it ALOT I would reccommend it to any one who wants fast loading times.Its'very quiet when idle but u can here it read and write, its not an annoying sound by any means I kinda like it actually.