Question Raptor Lake - Official Thread

[Hulk]

Since we already have the first Raptor Lake leak I'm thinking it should have it's own thread.
What do we know so far?
From Anandtech's Intel Process Roadmap articles from July:

Built on Intel 7 with upgraded FinFET
10-15% PPW (performance-per-watt)
Last non-tiled consumer CPU as Meteor Lake will be tiled

I'm guessing this will be a minor update to ADL with just a few microarchitecture changes to the cores. The larger change will be the new process refinement allowing 8+16 at the top of the stack.

Will it work with current z690 motherboards? If yes then that could be a major selling point for people to move to ADL rather than wait.

 

[Falkentyne]

What score? 4 and 8T are at that frequency, 32T score is at 5700 MHz. I also have DDR4 memory. All I changed is multiplier and main voltage offset, nothing else.

What score? 4 and 8T are at that frequency, 32T score is at 5700 MHz. I also have DDR4 memory. All I changed is multiplier and main voltage offset, nothing else.

This picture shows 24C/32T.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=attachments/single-6000-png.69383/

I see all cores active and hyperthreading enabled.

 

[Kocicak]

I have set the two best cores to 6100 MHz and passed 1T Cinebench run, HWinfo showing the cores running at 6100 MHz all the time, unfortunatelly the score does not reflect that. It was more monitoring than benchmarking run, I had both Intel utility and HWinfo running. I had no time to run it again without the tools running.

This time it was on fixed voltage. I tried setting the remaining cores to 6 GHz and run 2T, but it crashed.

 

[Kocicak]

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[ondma]

This picture shows 24C/32T.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=attachments/single-6000-png.69383/

I see all cores active and hyperthreading enabled.

Yea, but minimum time is set to zero, so that is not for a sustained run. Probably would be lower if you did a full 10 min run.

BTW, I have been testing with this, and have been having problems with getting a score. I do a 0 min run and get a score, but if I set of 10 min, the program runs for the full ten minutes and then says it is stopped, but the program keeps running and doesnt give me a score.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I have set the two best cores to 6100 MHz and passed 1T Cinebench run,

I see three cores at 6100 MHz. Possible to disable all other cores in BIOS and get the 1T and nT score? If not, how about using Process Lasso to set CB to use only the three fastest cores?

 

[Kocicak]

The first number is not a core, it a maximum of all cores.

 

[igor_kavinski]

The first number is not a core, it a maximum of all cores.

OK. Two then.

 

[Det0x]

Some overclocked 13900k(f) results out in the wild. (from overlock.net)



And some 3dmark CPU scores:



Y-cruncher:

 

[Det0x]

One slide also surfaced, dont know if real or not, but i will share it

🔹️13900K vs 🔸️7950X, Intel benchmarks:


Hope this puts some pressure on AMD releasing v-cache version of Zen4 earlier, even if very limited quantity..

 

[Shmee]

Where are titles like COD / Warzone and BF? Or Star Citizen?

 

[uzzi38]

This guy has the hardware, and is using an RTX 4090 so there is no GPU bottlenecking like there was with the RTX 3000 series, even at 1440p max settings. As I predicted, Raptor Lake is the faster gaming CPU, and will be even faster when DDR5 7000+ kits become widely available later this month. These benchmarks were done with DDR5 6200, which is more advantageous to Zen 4 than it is to Raptor Lake.

Couldn't do embedded links because he blocked that feature from being used for his videos as he wants the clicks. If you do watch the videos please leave a like:

7700x vs 13700K

7950x vs 13900K

5800x 3D vs 13600K

This is just one of those fake YT channels. Ignore it.

 

[Abwx]

Pretty good showing from Raptor Lake if these are accurate. Similar power use while gaming to Zen 4 but a bit better performance.

Never heard of this channel though so will take with a grain of salt for now.

In games the 7950X is at 118-123W and the 12900KS at 168-181W and i dont think that the 13900K will use less power than ADL.

Perhaps for single core boost it may hit 5.5ghz, but all core boost? I checked a few reviews of the 7700x doing Cinebench and the all core boost was around 5.1ghz. The in game boost from his channel was around 5.34ghz so that looks accurate to me as games will not stress the CPU like Cinebench would.

7700K all cores boost in games is at least 5.5GHz.

Ryzen 9 7950X und Ryzen 7700X im Spiele-Benchmark: Benchmarks mit RTX 3090 Ti, Taktraten und Leistungsaufnahme

Gaming-Benchmarks: Benchmarks mit RTX 3090 Ti, Taktraten und Leistungsaufnahme / Benchmarks in Spielen in 720p

www.computerbase.de

 

[Kocicak]

In games the 7950X is at 118-123W and the 12900KS at 168-181W and i dont think the 13900K will use less power than ADL.

Here are my results for 1, 2, 4, 8 and all threads load:
View attachment 69381

You can see that at 8 threads of a VERY demanding application 13900K consumes 184W at 5500 Mhz and 205W at 5900 MHz with a little neg. voltage offset. I bet in games it will consume less than that.

 

[Abwx]

You can see that at 8 threads of a VERY demanding application 13900K consumes 184W at 5500 Mhz and 205W at 5900 MHz with a little neg. voltage offset. I bet in games it will consume less than that.

In games there are 8 demanding threads and this will use as much power as CB limited to 8T, if the 13900K can boost its 8 cores at 200W then the chip will clock such that it will be as close as possible to 200W when only 8 threads are used.

 

[Kocicak]

At stock it will do 8T at 5500 MHz.

 

[nicalandia]

When you see Intel being this "Honest" You know there will be trouble

 

[poke01]

One slide also surfaced, dont know if real or not, but i will share it

🔹️13900K vs 🔸️7950X, Intel benchmarks:
View attachment 69416

Hope this puts some pressure on AMD releasing v-cache version of Zen4 earlier, even if very limited quantity..

its real, this is Intel India. They had a media/influencer meeting today.

 

[Kocicak]

I was probing around to get a 13600K early and one guy from a small shop told me that they have nothing ready to sell, no CPUs, no new motherboards. I had expected that there are full shelves everywhere of stuff ready to be sold on thursday, but it may not be the case. Honestly I have no idea how could I have bought my piece. Was is a mistake of the seller? Or intentional leak? No idea...

 

[MarkPost]

When you see Intel being this "Honest" You know there will be trouble
View attachment 69418

its really funny they show 0 MT benchmarks, when we are talking about CPUs with 32 threads

 

[Carfax83]

I was probing around to get a 13600K early and one guy from a small shop told me that they have nothing ready to sell, no CPUs, no new motherboards. I had expected that there are full shelves everywhere of stuff ready to be sold on thursday, but it may not be the case. Honestly I have no idea how could I have bought my piece. Was is a mistake of the seller? Or intentional leak? No idea...

Sometimes I ask myself, when did PC gaming/hardware enthusiasm become so popular? I can remember times in the past where buying new hardware was so easy, especially if it was high end hardware that was usually out of reach for many people.

But now, RTX 4090 is out of stock everywhere except on eBay where the average selling price is a thousand above MSRP, and to top it off, even the 13900KF and the God damned motherboard I'm interested in is sold out of preorders.. Fricking memory as well!!

It's enough to make me want to just quit gaming period!!

 

[nicalandia]

its really funny they show 0 MT benchmarks, when we are talking about CPUs with 32 threads

True. I've been searching for the benchmark setup at intel.com/performanceindex but have yet to see the one with 7950X, knowing Intel they will use DDR5 5200 for the 7950X

 

[Carfax83]

True. I've been searching for the benchmark setup at intel.com/performanceindex but have yet to see the one with 7950X, knowing Intel they will use DDR5 5200

And there's nothing wrong with them using DDR5 5200. It's the validated memory standard for Zen 4.

 

[nicalandia]

And there's nothing wrong with them using DDR5 5200. It's the validated memory standard for Zen 4.

I know..! But Reviewers will use DDR5 6000 or more since that is what they have been doing since day one.

 

[Markfw]

Sometimes I ask myself, when did PC gaming/hardware enthusiasm become so popular? I can remember times in the past where buying new hardware was so easy, especially if it was high end hardware that was usually out of reach for many people.

But now, RTX 4090 is out of stock everywhere except on eBay where the average selling price is a thousand above MSRP, and to top it off, even the 13900KF and the God damned motherboard I'm interested in is sold out of preorders.. Fricking memory as well!!

It's enough to make me want to just quit gaming period!!

well, you can get 3090TI's and 7950x's and DDR5 memory everywhere !

 

[Carfax83]

well, you can get 3090TI's and 7950x's and DDR5 memory everywhere !

3090 Ti isn't good enough for 4K gaming with RTX maxed out, and the 7950x has issues with core scheduling due to very high core count and two CCDs. This problem isn't unique to AMD as it also affects Intel with their efficiency cores (that's why they have a hardware thread director) and even having SMT enabled can degrade performance in some games. The vast majority of game engines scale to just 6 threads, while a few can do 8 threads and the rare few like IdTech 7 can even go beyond that. But if I were going the Zen 4 route, I would have to wait till the 3D cache versions become available as they will be superior for gaming.

That's the main reason I think why Zen 4 isn't selling well at the moment, because many people would rather wait for the 3D cache versions.

As for DDR5, I want the ultra fast kits that can do at least 6.8ghz and I haven't seen any online anywhere. 7ghz and above kits should be available by the end of the month though.