Info Raspberry Pi 4 Is Finally Here!

ao_ika_red

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It comes with quad A72 cores and 4GB RAM option, not to mention dual HDMI output. This will be a HTPC salvation. Price starts at USD35 (1GB option) up to USD55 (4GB option).


  • Broadcom BCM2711, Quad core Cortex-A72 (ARM v8) 64-bit SoC @ 1.5GHz
  • 1GB, 2GB or 4GB LPDDR4-2400 SDRAM (depending on model)
  • 2.4 GHz and 5.0 GHz IEEE 802.11ac wireless, Bluetooth 5.0, BLE
  • Gigabit Ethernet
  • 2 USB 3.0 ports; 2 USB 2.0 ports.
  • Raspberry Pi standard 40 pin GPIO header (fully backwards compatible with previous boards)
  • 2 × micro-HDMI ports (up to 4kp60 supported)
  • 2-lane MIPI DSI display port
  • 2-lane MIPI CSI camera port
  • 4-pole stereo audio and composite video port
  • H.265 (4kp60 decode), H264 (1080p60 decode, 1080p30 encode)
  • OpenGL ES 3.0 graphics
  • Micro-SD card slot for loading operating system and data storage
  • 5V DC via USB-C connector (minimum 3A*)
  • 5V DC via GPIO header (minimum 3A*)
  • Power over Ethernet (PoE) enabled (requires separate PoE HAT)
  • Operating temperature: 0 – 50 degrees C ambient

Review by Tom's Hardware
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-4-b,6193.html
OC demo by same publication.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-4-b-overclocking,6188.html
 
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ultimatebob

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Yeah, they finally have a Raspberry Pi with “real” full speed Gigabit Ethernet!

$55 for the 4GB model seems a bit steep, though. Once you get a MicroSD card, a case, a power adapter and cables, you’re up to $100 shipped.
 

ao_ika_red

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Actually, I don't really expect of having big cores on RPi. Sticking with A53 or newer A55 is fine for me. As we witnessed on RPi3, it's not CPU dragging the performance but meager RAM (by today's standard) and slow storage that prevent RPi3 becoming daily driver. I believe if they used LITTLE cores the price can be reduced by some dollars (not much, but each cent counts).
 

jmagg

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Running a RPi4 4 as a diminutive desktop on my end table. Works well, but waiting for a 15 in HD monitor with a 5v 3a port on the back to run the pi piggy back. One trip to the wall. SSH to RPi3+ Retropi at the tv. cool stuff
 
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ultimatebob

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What can a layman do with a RPi 4?

The Pi 4 is probably the first Raspberry Pi model to have enough processing power to be used as a low end desktop computer (or a mobile workstation, if you got a case with a screen and keyboard for it)

But, yeah, it's still more of a toy for embedded systems hobbyists and folks learning how it build a cheap computer for the first time.
 
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LOUISSSSS

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The Pi 4 is probably the the first Raspberry Pi model to have enough processing power to be used as a low end desktop computer (or a mobile workstation, if you got a case with a screen and keyboard for it)

But, yeah, it's still more of a toy for embedded systems hobbyists and folks learning how it build a cheap computer for the first time.
i read something about people using it as an ad-blocker by connecting it to my router. Is that legit and do-able?
 

pauldun170

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i read something about people using it as an ad-blocker by connecting it to my router. Is that legit and do-able?

Pi-Hole


I have 2 Raspberry pi's in the house a 4gb model and 2gb model.

The 4gb model is being underutilized at the moment and is currently being used as livreelec \Kodi box for the kids playroom.

The 2gb model running rasbian was put to use as Pi-hole where my Router uses it as the primary DNS server . Keep in mind, A raspberry 4 is overkill for this. You can go with a $10 Raspberry pi zero for a simple pi-hole server.
All devices connected to my network have ads blocked courtesy of the pi-hole server.
In my setup, I kept the router as the dhcp server but if you configure the pi-hole as the dhcp server you can pretty much track requests at the device level (with the router as dhcp, all request get listed as from the router. I'll eventually switch it up when I have some time). Very simple to set up and you'll spend more time trying to decide what static ip you want to use for the pi-hole and documenting it.

I have it in simple FLIRC case tucked away in the TV stand in our living room.

Since it was so under stressed, I tossed Kodi on that Raspberry as well and hooked it up to out TV in the living room. Since it's running Raspbian, we now have usable desktop if we want.
It's still under stressed with pi-hole and kodi and sits at a 42c in the flirc case. I've yet to see it go above 60c under load.
 

ultimatebob

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Help me out... why is a Pi Hole better than a browser based adblock plugin? Is it harder for the "ad blocker blockers" to detect?
 

sdifox

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Help me out... why is a Pi Hole better than a browser based adblock plugin? Is it harder for the "ad blocker blockers" to detect?

lan level vs client level. So one device is doing the work, as opposed to all your devices.
 

pauldun170

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Help me out... why is a Pi Hole better than a browser based adblock plugin? Is it harder for the "ad blocker blockers" to detect?

Full control on what is blocked on the fly across all devices on the network.
From the console I can blacklist\whitelist on the fly.
As someone who prefers to keep devices as uncluttered as possible, no need for plugins or apps.

I no longer have to care about installing adblockers on endpoints around the house. Don't have to worry about devices with that serve ads through built in browsers or through "other means" where you cannot install an adblocker.

For me the "better" is simplicity, granular control and global coverage of everything in the house.
However, if a regular browser plugins and smartphone apps are doing the same job for you for free with no complaints I wouldn't worry about.
 
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Ready4Droid

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I have an OG PI, PI 2 and PI 3... Seemed cool as I like electronics and programming. Used them a tiny bit for playing around, but never really found a good use. Anything I need realtime is better done on a small MCU like avr or arm... Anything that needs wifi an ESP fits the bill for much cheaper. Think I may have finally found a use in a watering system. All my MCUs fees into the RPi which aggregates the data and serves a web front end. Requirements to high for an ESP, but a desktop would be way overkill. What are you guys using them for? I was thinking of making a mame arcade of some sort, but don't really have that much space for a cabinet (and I have 5 desktops already for gaming).
 

Ready4Droid

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I second this, I had my pi setup for pihole for a little while. O have a crappy internet connection (satellite, very limited) and 3 kids... The less ads on all our devices the better. It works for all devices and doesn't need a special config per device or per browser.
Full control on what is blocked on the fly across all devices on the network.
From the console I can blacklist\whitelist on the fly.
As someone who prefers to keep devices as uncluttered as possible, no need for plugins or apps.

I no longer have to care about installing adblockers on endpoints around the house. Don't have to worry about devices with that serve ads through built in browsers or through "other means" where you cannot install an adblocker.

For me the "better" is simplicity, granular control and global coverage of everything in the house.
However, if a regular browser plugins and smartphone apps are doing the same job for you for free with no complaints I wouldn't worry about.
 

skyking

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thanks guys. I have a Debian server that would host the pi hole just fine. Got me to thinking about that.
I'd be a Pi customer, but I had this case with power supply and went that direction.
 
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