Question Rate my computer by today's standards...

[Anomaly1964]

Asus P67 Sabertooth MB
i5-2500K processor
GTX 970 OC
16GB ram
120MB SSD
1 Terrabyte HD
Windows 10
Built in 2011

I feel like I really built a future proof PC when I built this, I think it's JUST now showing signs of lagging behind. Where would I notice the biggest differences in building a new PC if resolution were 2560x1080/1920x1080p?

Thanks for any input

 

[aigomorla]

first gen sandy... lol... along with probably a 2nd or 3rd generation SSD.

ummm..... i think that 970 is being bottle necked by your processor.

Biggest difference in what? Gaming? Windows? Chrome?
What games?

If all you do is Chrome surf, netflix, youtube, then nothing.
If you game, and want more then 1080, then well, honestly you should go for an upgrade.

 

[Anomaly1964]

first gen sandy... lol... along with probably a 2nd or 3rd generation SSD.

ummm..... i think that 970 is being bottle necked by your processor.

Biggest difference in what? Gaming? Windows? Chrome?
What games?

If all you do is Chrome surf, netflix, youtube, then nothing.
If you game, and want more then 1080, then well, honestly you should go for an upgrade.

Thanks for the info. I would be for surfing and gaming. I just need the best 1080p experience I can get...

 

[VirtualLarry]

Well, it's kind of like a Cadillac... from the 70s/80s. I mean, you could get something more modern, more HP, better fuel economy... but how's the "ride"? If it gives you the "ride" you want, and you don't think it's too old, then maybe you don't need to change anything.

Anyways, the new "Flying Cars" (*Well, Ryzen 3000-series) are going to be released soon (July 7th), check back after then, and check the threads in the CPUs & OC and Motherboards sub-forums.

 

[aigomorla]

you want ray tracing?
You need to upgrade... a RTX would be bottlenecked til no tomorrow on your sandy.

Dont care about RTX? u can probably get by with a 1070/1660... but again, you'd be bottlenecked.
How much of a bottleneck are we talking about? id say roughly 10-15%... or in simpler terms... about anywhere from 5-15fps YMMV.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Check out the Hot Deals sub-forum. @Kenmitch posted a deal from BestBuy for $199.99, with a Ryzen R5 1600 (1st-gen) 6C/12T CPU, and an Asus Crosshair VI Hero X370 ATX mobo ($220 value), seems like a deal entry-level deal on some quality 1st-Gen Ryzen parts for those upgrading from Sandy Bridge, it might be an opportunity.

Edit: Oh, and consider getting a 1TB SSD, perferably an NVMe M.2 one, you'll thank me in the future. (They're currently maybe $80-90 for a budget-oriented QLC Intel 660p 1TB, or maybe $110 for an HP EX920 TLC more performance-oriented M.2 NVMe SSD.)

 

[nOOky]

Are you currently overclocking your CPU? I'd suggest you're probably still okay at 1080p, unless you want to go to a higher refresh rate monitor...

 

[JackMDS]

The whole rating issue is kind of "Silly".

The computer as describe in the OP probably can cover well the needs of 90% by computer users.

The question to ask is.. Given x, y, and z, that I am doing, what can do it better for reasonable cost.

As an example if my work/livelihood is connected directly to a specific Football club, what does it really matter which one gets to the Super-ball.



P.S. As the world changed to is current trajectory that is Nothing Future proof any more.

 

[ubern00b]

You've probably had it what? 5 years maybe? that's as future proof as you're going to get in terms of a "gaming PC" and yes it will be getting long in the tooth right about now (1-2 years ago ) that said it's exciting times right now as RAM and SSD prices are going down, you now don't have to sell your granny to buy anything more than an 4c/8t chip anymore these days.

Ryzen 2 (3rd gen) is being released in 5 days and depending on your budget you should be able to factor in either a 6c/12t, 8c/16t or 12c/24t CPU that performs as good as most of Intel's top chips in a lot of aspects. If you prefer Intel they are still a viable option of course though expect to pay a premium for their higher end chips. GPU's are a funny thing now, don't expect to pay $350 for a 70 card like you did a few years back, they're now $500 upwards and above that, we're back to selling our grannies for a high end GPU. That said if you're budget minded, you can grab the likes of a 1070 Ti for about $300 these days and a Vega 56 for $250, guess it depends if you want new and high end or you're willing to shop around and consider previous gen for a bargain.

 

[will889]

My advice is to get a nice GPU to work with your system now, and when the new AMD processors are out and reviewed weigh it against Intel's offerings and make your decision on the processor and other parts at that time.

 

[mikeymikec]

@Anomaly1964

Depends what games as well (are you having trouble with games you're currently playing, and/or are there games you're considering getting, and what settings do you want to play them at).

In terms of general usability, I second the suggestion for an SSD, it'll make a huge difference to general responsiveness. For general apps usage with an SSD I think your current rig is fine.

- edit - re-reads OP, ah you have an SSD, hopefully it has the OS installed on it. I'll shut my face now

 

[Flayed]

Asus P67 Sabertooth MB
i5-2500K processor
GTX 970 OC
16GB ram
120MB SSD
1 Terrabyte HD
Windows 10
Built in 2011

I feel like I really built a future proof PC when I built this, I think it's JUST now showing signs of lagging behind. Where would I notice the biggest differences in building a new PC if resolution were 2560x1080/1920x1080p?

Thanks for any input

I know Far Cry 5 doesn't play well on a 4c/4t system. On my 3570k the 1% lows are low and the framerate is not so good. Actually, the 1% lows are more like 10% lows lol

 

[mopardude87]

I jump ship from a i5 4460 and 8gb with my 1070ti at 1080p to a i5 8400 and eventually a i7 8700 non k. I had all sorts of various bottlenecks even as far up as 1440p on the i5 4460.

Game choice will prob really answer what needs upgrading or not. The 970 i had paired with it at one point certainly was not a bottleneck but maybe for a 4c/4t i wouldn't really go pass a 1070. BF4 had extremely high fps on the 1070ti on the i5 4460 with bottlenecking but i had drops under 60 at times in BF1 with a maxed out 4460. BF1 made me do the upgrades obviously.

 

[Anomaly1964]

What about these components?

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-2060-rtx-2060-ventus-xs-6g-oc/p/N82E16814137396 - GPU - $335.00 00

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3885267&Description=ryzen 2600x combo - CPU MB RAM - $351.00

https://www.newegg.com/intel-660p-s...0219-Index-_-InternalSSDs-_-Blitz-20167462-S0 - $99.00

Will use my current case and power supply and case...

New egg just put these on sale:
https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-...hqDqbhdQWeMXaTwcEX_rOv9lcGwcgg6W6I=&bc_lid=47

https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce...hqDqbhdQWeMXaTwcEX_rOv9lcGwcgg6W6I=&bc_lid=17

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-...hqDqbhdQWeMXaTwcEX_rOv9lcGwcgg6W6I=&bc_lid=35

 

[mopardude87]

Depends on your budget allowances, you may be better off waiting to see what Ryzen 3000 delivers tomorrow? Reviews are tomorrow. Sadly it does look like the cpus do start in the $200 range but just maybe worth going for?

Other alternatives are like the $117 Ryzen 1600 over the 2600x. With the Navi card reviews out tomorrow as well you could put the $60 saved over the 2600x into the 5700XT which may be quicker then even the 2070 Super and most likely a bit faster then the 2060.

 

[ubern00b]

Ryzen 2 is 1 day away also so is navi, hold on until reviews tomorrow

 

[Anomaly1964]

Navi card?

 

[ubern00b]

Navi card?

AMD's new gpu lineup, navi. 5700 and 5700xt will be released tomorrow, they should be about 2060 and 2070 performance

 

[Anomaly1964]

Similar costs?

 

[ubern00b]

Yes same ballpark maybe slightly cheaper

 

[Anomaly1964]

So, based on the new AMD releases, would you change your CPU or GPU? $800 Rig

So if I wanted an $800 rig, US, work/1080p gaming, mostly FPS (Farcry, Doom, Crysis on High or Ultra) - don't need case, power supply, or monitors - what would YOUR build for me look like?

Thanks!

 

[Flayed]

Not seen a review for the value end of the Zen 2 range yet. From what I saw though for strictly gaming and light office work a speed binned (and delidded) 9700k@5.2Ghz would be the best choice.

 

[ubern00b]

Not seen a review for the value end of the Zen 2 range yet. From what I saw though for strictly gaming and light office work a speed binned (and delidded) 9700k@5.2Ghz would be the best choice.

Actually the 3700x which is about $20 lower than a retail 9700k and beats it in most things taking into account both are running stock, though talking about a 5+ghz binned 9700k and delidding, you can easily add another $100 on top, in fact here's a guaranteed 5.2ghz from silicone lottery at a whopping $589 the 3700x is 5% slower at gaming at 1080p though but this percentage gets smaller as you increase the resolution.

https://siliconlottery.com/collections/all/products/9700k52g

 

[Flayed]

Actually the 3700x which is about $20 lower than a retail 9700k and beats it in most things taking into account both are running stock, though talking about a 5+ghz binned 9700k and delidding, you can easily add another $100 on top, in fact here's a guaranteed 5.2ghz from silicone lottery at a whopping $589 the 3700x is 5% slower at gaming at 1080p though but this percentage gets smaller as you increase the resolution.

https://siliconlottery.com/collections/all/products/9700k52g

I misread the OP's post I thought he was looking for CPU + mobo and ram for $800 but I think he means with a graphics card too. With that budget, I think looking for a deal on a 2700x and pairing it with either a 260 or a 5700. Alternatively considering the resolution a 9600k.

I saw there are pre binned 9700k @ 5.2 they would be good for 1080p gaming but more expensive than the new 12 core from AMD lol

 

[ubern00b]

May at a push be able to go ryzen 3600 $200, navi $350, x470 motherboard $100, 16gb ddr4 3000 $65-70 so $15-$20 over his 800 budget