You know one thing to keep in mind is that sometimes birds of a feather fly together.
I do not need to know the details other than what I saw in the video of him KO his woman. You can not fault him until she faults him. She is an enabler. Once she sees that she is a victim then the rest of the world can attack him in proper fashion. If this was in a bar I am sure he would be in the IC ward.
How many of you, supporting the Rice decision, are Mayweather fans? This dude made something around $75 Million last year from people watching his fights, yet, his record as a human being is less than that of many animals:
That's really my problem with this whole situation. The pure outrage and demanding of his head on a stick and then just glossing over all of the other issues that are out there. How is this worse than any number of the guys that go out doing shots at a bar until 4:00AM and then climb behind the wheel of an $80,000 escalade and risk murdering any number of people on the road? How is it worse than Shaun Merriman a few years ago punching Tia whats herface in the face? Greg Oden of the NBA popped his GF in the mouth a few weeks back. How about any number of gun related issues at strip clubs that professional athletes have got themselves into?
It's the all of the sudden outrage and crucifixion of this one guy that really just sort of bothers me.
I'm not doing any victim blame and I'm definitely not excusing his actions. I just think it's a very surreal situation that all of these other things are going on but Ray Rice is the poster child, ultra scorned, truly hated personality.
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You know this seems like it is very much not true.
First of all, there is no “NFL crime wave.” The twenty-nine players, some who were not even on active rosters, constitute around 1 percent of all players vying for NFL roster spots. Also, in a study last December by Stephen Bronars, “NFL players are arrested about one-fourth as often as men age 22 to 34 in the general population…. The arrest rate for NFL players has averaged about 2.9% compared to 10.8% for men age 22 to 34 (based on FBI crime data by age for men in 2009).”
That's really my problem with this whole situation. The pure outrage and demanding of his head on a stick and then just glossing over all of the other issues that are out there.
That's really my problem with this whole situation. The pure outrage and demanding of his head on a stick and then just glossing over all of the other issues that are out there. How is this worse than any number of the guys that go out doing shots at a bar until 4:00AM and then climb behind the wheel of an $80,000 escalade and risk murdering any number of people on the road? How is it worse than Shaun Merriman a few years ago punching Tia whats herface in the face? Greg Oden of the NBA popped his GF in the mouth a few weeks back. How about any number of gun related issues at strip clubs that professional athletes have got themselves into?
It's the all of the sudden outrage and crucifixion of this one guy that really just sort of bothers me.
I'm not doing any victim blame and I'm definitely not excusing his actions. I just think it's a very surreal situation that all of these other things are going on but Ray Rice is the poster child, ultra scorned, truly hated personality.
How did they believe her to be knocked out last Feb?
I do not need to know the details other than what I saw in the video of him KO his woman.
You can not fault him until she faults him.
She is an enabler. Once she sees that she is a victim then the rest of the world can attack him in proper fashion. If this was in a bar I am sure he would be in the IC ward.
Yeah but that was a vicious punch. He could have slapped her. He knocked her out like she was a man. She bounced off the elevator wall on the way down and probably hurt her face again on the railing on the wall. Honey was out cold before she hit the floor though.
It is good that they made an example of this man. Kids look up to him as a role model. Giving Ray Rice a little slap on the wrist and letting him resume his play would have sent a very bad message. Now he might think twice before he decks his wife, eh?
All this is true but has anyone bothered to verify that the latest video is real and uncut?Ravens are stupid anyway. They released a tweet saying the GF regrets her position in what took place the night (I'm paraphrasing).
Maybe this is why the trial never happened, the police may not have had the elevator video? When it first happened I assumed she was very drunk or under some other influence ...Didn't everyone already know that this is exactly what happened?
I'm getting a little fed up with today's society where, if something isn't captured on HD video, it didn't happen.
All this is true but has anyone bothered to verify that the latest video is real and uncut?
It is funny here in Philly the mainstream sports talk has condemned Ray Rice all morning along with the NFL hierarchy , but they do not mention (as was pointed out on urban oriented talk 900 AM) She spit in his face at one point and did hit him before entering the elevator.
If the police had the elevator video one has to wonder why this did not go to trial and why such a light "punishment" ?? :'(
Maybe this is why the trial never happened, the police may not have had the elevator video? When it first happened I assumed she was very drunk or under some other influence ...
I wonder if Rice will be able to get a piece of the concussion settlement, this surely could explain his appalling actions ?
Good thing he isn't standing next to a real man. This guy is 5'8. Manlet status.
Yeah but that was a vicious punch. He could have slapped her. He knocked her out like she was a man. She bounced off the elevator wall on the way down and probably hurt her face again on the railing on the wall. Honey was out cold before she hit the floor though.
It is good that they made an example of this man. Kids look up to him as a role model. Giving Ray Rice a little slap on the wrist and letting him resume his play would have sent a very bad message. Now he might think twice before he decks his wife, eh?
What does it matter if it is a slap or a punch? The result was she was knocked out. That is why I think this whole thing is such a fraud by the NFL. I think if this video came out in Feb he still gets 2 games. But since the uproar that came out of that decision they took the opportunity with the release of this video to do what they should had done last Feb. The idea they are now outraged seems so contrived to me.
You clearly put to much weight on height = what makes a man.
You more than likely are AT's biggest bitch though.
Heard and interesting comparison this morning, and it makes sense.
How many of you, supporting the Rice decision, are Mayweather fans? This dude made something around $75 Million last year from people watching his fights, yet, his record as a human being is less than that of many animals:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather,_Jr.#Legal_issues
This guys is a domestic abuse/battery machine, yet, he's the highest paid athlete.
Manlet status confirmed. You mad bro?
It isn't Mayweather's fault! He can't read a Harry Potter book!!
Manlet status confirmed. You mad bro?
Ray Rice clearly was seen dragging a women who was unconscious out of an elevator. He didn't tickler her into unconsciousness... .
Oh, I hear ya because we can assume he did something, but who really though it was two left hooks, one of which knocked her into a metal rail and knocked her out?
I hope I don't sound like I'm defending Rice or the NFL, but I'm glad they didn't jump the gun and fire him and suspend him for a year based on the aftermath.
Why? Well, what if they were fighting and while getting her off of him, he pushed her back and she slipped and fell and hit her head by accident? Then, the NFL would have probably been taken to task for over-punishment.
I think it hard for the NFL to balance punishment with the history of stupid players and the public demanding people's heads. In a sense, I'd hate to be in Goodell's shoes.