Though you won't see an abandonment of "traditional" rendering pathways soon, I suspect we will quickly see them given less polish, in favor of using RT pathways to showcase a games best visual presentation.
However, I also don't predict any sort of abandonment of "traditional" rendering pathways happening until every sub ~$300 GPU has reasonable RT performance.
I'm not sure that consoles have ever been a driver for enhancing rasterization / pushing new features. Instead, devs seem to prefer using low level coding and specialized paths to produce acceptable results on anemic hardware.The consoles are the bigger factor IMO. Don't know if either Sony or MS will push to include RT acceleration in either next gen console.
RT incurs way too much of a performance hit even on the $1,200 2080TI. When the top tier GPU can push 100fps+ @ 1440p or better with RT it will be a viable technology and one that would get me to pay $$$ for a new cutting edge GPU. As is, even the 2080TI can't effectively implement RT so it's a non-factor in my purchasing decisions. 1st gen 7nm may make RT something that matters or it may take 2nd gen 7nm GPUs to get there, only time will tell.
I'm not sure that consoles have ever been a driver for enhancing rasterization / pushing new features.
That's a reasonable position.Which is exactly the problem. Devs aren't going to push RT that hard if it's not doable on the consoles.
RT incurs way too much of a performance hit even on the $1,200 2080TI. When the top tier GPU can push 100fps+ @ 1440p or better with RT it will be a viable technology and one that would get me to pay $$$ for a new cutting edge GPU.
Who are you to decide what target framerate is viable? People are accepting sub 60fps minimum framerate in many cases cases when going 4k resolution even with the 1080ti - still people are choosing running games at 4k resolution today. Still it is only a resolution bump without higher quality pixels - you just get higher resolution fake shadows, reflections and refractions.
And now we are getting a real image quality increase and not just the seasonal resolution increases of the last few years - and people complaining about only 60 fps.
Can't pull 60fps @1080p with a $1,200 card but you're free to pay the early adopter tax. The 2070 and 2080 will be even weaker in RT titles.
I'll have no problem dropping coin on hardware but I'll hold off on replacing my current 1080 until 7nm and playable frame rates at more than peasant resolutions.
I predict that when reviews come out and drivers improve, you won't hold off until 7nm.Can't pull 60fps @1080p with a $1,200 card but you're free to pay the early adopter tax. The 2070 and 2080 will be even weaker in RT titles.
I'll have no problem dropping coin on hardware but I'll hold off on replacing my current 1080 until 7nm and playable frame rates at more than peasant resolutions.
I predict that when reviews come out and drivers improve, you won't hold off until 7nm.
Both video games and film recently migrated from empirical models to physically-based shading [McAuley and Hill 2016], but the simplified light transport available in rasterization continues to push developers to consider ray tracing for accurate shadows and reflections, and multi-bounce global illumination. But current ray tracing performance is limited to around 200–300Mrays/sec [Binder and Keller 2016; Wald et al. 2014], giving just a few rays per pixel at 1920×1080 and 30 Hz. This number is even lower for production usage with dynamic acceleration structures,large scenes, and variable CPU/GPU performance. therefore, with multiple rays per path and the trends towards higher resolutions and refresh rates, practical performance is not likely to exceed one path per pixel for the foreseeable future. By developing a reconstruction filter that respects this constraint, we aim to make real-time path tracing a reality much sooner.
because no game designers will waste the money coding on something no one has hardware to play.
No raytracing for gtx 2060 and down?
https://www.techpowerup.com/247429/...-lack-of-rtx-capabilities-in-lower-tier-cards
No raytracing for gtx 2060 and down?
https://www.techpowerup.com/247429/...-lack-of-rtx-capabilities-in-lower-tier-cards
This pretty much seals it, Cutting it out of the x60 and lower tiers pretty much gurantees this will see little to no adoption. They need to make this viable on a x60 card to push it forward.
Agreed and that won't happen until at least first gen 7nm, if not 2nd gen 7nm. Really, the $250 and under price point is what's needed for technology to see widespread adoption. No console support plus no support at the $250 and under GPU price point means that RT will be fringe for several years to come. I look forward to it becoming standard.
Maybe NVIDIA can build a cheap RT standalone die to handle things?
I'm not sure that consoles have ever been a driver for enhancing rasterization / pushing new features. Instead, devs seem to prefer using low level coding and specialized paths to produce acceptable results on anemic hardware.
Agreed and that won't happen until at least first gen 7nm, if not 2nd gen 7nm. Really, the $250 and under price point is what's needed for technology to see widespread adoption. No console support plus no support at the $250 and under GPU price point means that RT will be fringe for several years to come. I look forward to it becoming standard.
Maybe NVIDIA can build a cheap RT standalone die to handle things?
I don't ever think PhysX had 11 games at launch, with more to come on the way .. Support is going to be far better this time because NVIDIA is heavily pushing it ..Hardware PhysX 2.0 confirmed
I don't ever think PhysX had 11 games at launch, with more to come on the way .. Support is going to be far better this time because NVIDIA is heavily pushing it ..