Razer mice vs. Logitech gaming mice

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Thetech
Ok the reviewer said that the buttons on the side of the Razer Diamond back were too easy to accidentally click, in other reviews I've read most have said that they are more difficult to click . Which is it? I accidentally hit the buttons on the side of my MS Intellimouse sometimes, I wouldn't mind if the buttons on the diamond back were about the same or a little harder to hit.

wow, I have a tough time pressing my Diamondbacks side buttons on purpose, I can't imagine ever accidently pressing them.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Just bought a Logitech G5, enjoy it very much.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Thetech
Thank you. As far as the "gaming mice" thing goes, I'm just looking for a better quality mouse. I got attracted to the razer mice and other gaming mice because of the increased resolution of the optical sensor, I'm not willing to pay those extra high cost for the latest and the greatest laser mice.

EDIT: I also need the higher resolution for basic graphic work.
@bunnyfubbles, I didn't know that the higher sensitivity would still be there if I lowered the mouse speed.

Yup

I know my Razer Copperhead driver really gives me a lot of control over how the mouse functions: pic

Clear and separate settings for setting your DPI and mouse sensitivity (pointer speed) - even can really mess with acceleration and even different x and y sensitivities.

What's more is that you can program buttons on the mouse to either change DPI (commonly found as a default feature on most gaming mice these days) or on-the-fly-sensitivity - ie your DPI stays the same if you choose this set this up. I believe the common misconception about switching DPI to change your pointer speed comes from the default buttons on gaming mice allowing you to change it - however if you don't adjust your pointer speed if you move from 800 DPI to 1600 DPI you're going to get a difference.

http://www.razerzone.com/copperhead/help/configuring.htm

 

[LOUISSSSS]

didn't read anything inbetween, but i've used the razer copperhead, mx518, and mx510, and g7. buttons on both the mx518 and 510 gave me problems and one of my g7's completely broke. another one of my g7's is working fine tho. my only copperhead is working great. the mouse you'd like depends on each individual. i do equally well in cs:s with the g7 and the copperhead. i dont install any drivers from each. personally.. i'd take the g7 over the copperhead. hope this helps

 

[QuantumPion]

I like the mx510. No fancy dpi adjusters or annoying software. Juts a nice shape with a good material and sturdy, solid buttons. I've bought 2, one for work and one for home and I've been using them for several years. I tried the G5 but I couldn't stand it. I couldn't get used to the dpi, it was either way too fast or way too slow, the material and shape was very uncomfortable, and I had to scrunch my hand into a claw to use it. With the 510, I can just rest your palm on top of the mouse naturally.

 

[gneGne]

At the Media Market (some kind of Best Buy replica, but in Europe) they usually have alot of mice lined up. Just put your hands around them and see if it feels comfy. Can't really go wrong with Razer, Logitech and Microsoft. I did hear alot of complaints about the Habu mouse though.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: QuantumPion
I like the mx510. No fancy dpi adjusters or annoying software. Juts a nice shape with a good material and sturdy, solid buttons. I've bought 2, one for work and one for home and I've been using them for several years. I tried the G5 but I couldn't stand it. I couldn't get used to the dpi, it was either way too fast or way too slow, the material and shape was very uncomfortable, and I had to scrunch my hand into a claw to use it. With the 510, I can just rest your palm on top of the mouse naturally.

Set your DPI, then adjust pointer-speed/mouse sensitivity. Pretty simple. And for the G5, the design is pretty much identical to the MX5xx series.

 

[nataku00]

I have to agree with some of the other people who suggested you really need to make the decision yourself based on physically going to a store and handling the mouse in your hand. I've never tried a Razor mouse out because I don't usually see them carried at most b&m stores but Logitech and Microsoft mice are available everywhere. Just go to a store and spend some time in the input device aisle to handle some of the available mouse to see what you like best.

 

[d0l0mite]

can't speak for anywhere outside my area and the surrounding areas, but both Best Buy & Circuit City carry Razer Mice, the stupid ass BB up the street from me doesn't have a display model for them, so trying it out to see if you like the feel might be hard.


You definitely owe it to yourself to try them out, a good, comfortable mouse makes a world of difference.

 

[CurseTheSky]

Definately try them to see how they fit your hand. I've only briefly tried Razer mice, and while they perform well, I hate them because of how they fit my hand. They're too long for my taste - probably best suited for someone with extremely long fingers.

Though I miss the number of extra buttons on my MX1000, I'm definately loving my G7. I prefer wireless, since I find wires get in my way after using wireless mice for 3-4 years. Unless you're running an unshielded radio + microwave + cordless phone + radio jammer + nuclear power station on your desktop, you shouldn't have any problems with interference. The only thing I would have preferred with the G7 is the ability to adjust weight like the G5.

 

[ahurtt]

I sprung for the Logitech G7 a couple years ago now I think and I haven't regretted it. (Wish I could say the same for their piec'a'sh!t gaming headset/mic). You can adjust the DPI sensitivity on the fly. It comes with 2 rechargeable lithium ion batteries (last about 10 hours per charge, 2 hours to charge up). It takes about 5 seconds to swap out the batteries with the push of a button. It is cordless and laser with up to 2000 DPI but that DPI, like I said, is adjustable and configurable on a per-game basis. The buttons are programmable via the logitech mouse suite software. This thing tracks like a laser guided smart bomb. I cannot recall that it has EVER lost tracking on me like other cheaper optical mice I have used. I've never tried a Razr but I cannot say enough about how happy I have been with my Logitech G7. It isn't cheap but I don't think I'll ever need another mouse again. I notice no performance lag or degredation from this being a wireless mouse. (It is 2.4 GHz so don't use a 2.4GHz corless phone around it or something like that or I suppose it could interfere but I never had a problem).

G7 = overkill? Maybe. But I haven't looked back since I got mine.

Also, as a side note: Before I got the G7 I tried the MX 1000. It was heavy, clunky, had only 1 battery, and frequently lost tracking while gaming. Here was the biggest game breaker with the MX 1000. When you pick it up off the table to reposition it, it doesn't respond to movement after you put it down again for a good half second or so. That is the difference between life and death in a fast paced FPS game. I don't know if the other MX series mice suffer the same problem but I can say the G7 definitely does not. You can pick it up and put it down all day long and it responds instantly.

EDIT: OK one thing I thought about that I would change about the G7. The texture of this mouse in your hand. . .the 2 main buttons and the body/frame of the mouse are completely smooth plastic. If your hand gets a little sweaty it does get a little bit slippery. Would be nice if it had some rubber texturing or something instead of being perfectly smooth. I don't know if they changed it or not since I got mine a couple years ago. But I'm really picking at nits here.

 

[Thetech]

Sorry guys, no Deathadder review here. I bought a Diamondback(the green one) and I really like it, I'm suprised that the movements are so smooth!
They really should market gaming mice and pads to computer graphic artist, they would be a big help for them. Thanks for all of your input.

 

[tuteja1986]

Logitech G5 sucks and all lazer mouse sucks.

Razor Copperhead , razor Diamondback Logitech MX518 and Logitech MX510 is the best mouse for gaming.

 

[gneGne]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Logitech G5 sucks and all lazer mouse sucks.

Razor Copperhead

Copperhead is "lazer" too.

 

[Dolorous Dave]

I'm in the same boat as far as upgrading my mouse. I have a Logitech MX510 and I'm looking for a wireless solution for gaming that won't increase the mouse-size too much. I really like the "tethered" feel of a wired mouse but I have too many damn cables behind my desk--it keeps getting caught on stuff. Any suggestions on a good WIRELESS gaming mouse? Preferably by Logitech?

 

[gneGne]

I've heard some good stories about the G7. Don't forget about having to recharge those mice too.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Dolorous Dave
I'm in the same boat as far as upgrading my mouse. I have a Logitech MX510 and I'm looking for a wireless solution for gaming that won't increase the mouse-size too much. I really like the "tethered" feel of a wired mouse but I have too many damn cables behind my desk--it keeps getting caught on stuff. Any suggestions on a good WIRELESS gaming mouse? Preferably by Logitech?

perhaps you just need something to hold the cord in place near the mouse pad (some mousepads have such a clip built-in), or perhaps a keyboard with USB ports...

 

[Dolorous Dave]

That Logitech G7 is looking good with those rechargable batteries. I suck at FPS games so it's not like it could make me WORSE.

 

[StopSign]

I hear the G7 has terrible battery life.

I prefer wired mice because they just feel more secure. If it's plugged in, you know it will work without problems. I use a MX500 at work and MX518 at home. I really like the design and ergonomics of the Logitech mice. Too bad they got rid of one of the thumb buttons on the G5. Whoever designed that must have been on crack.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: Thetech
Sorry guys, no Deathadder review here. I bought a Diamondback(the green one) and I really like it, I'm suprised that the movements are so smooth!
They really should market gaming mice and pads to computer graphic artist, they would be a big help for them. Thanks for all of your input.

Graphic artists use pads.

 

[Lukeamdman85]

I had the Logitech MX310 for 3 years, finally upgraded to the G5 and couldn't be happier. I thought the weight adjustment was overkill, but I actually used it and my gameplay has never been better. The cord is also a durable cloth instead of rubber so it never gets caught on anything. I also don't see how the overall build quality could be any better. The G5 rocks!

 

[toolman3]

Just came back from the mall and Target had the MX518 for 30 bucks and Best BUY for 52

 

[konakona]

I have finished reading other threads with "razer" keyword and a couple other online forums to conlcude between mx510/mx518/diamondback, it really is a split decision in terms of performance. The things I did notice tho, is how diamondback doesnt go well with the included software (which I could care less if the mouse works fine in games), and at the same time glides better due to its coated feet. I am assuming you could get some custom stick-on feet though.

Now, what I want is a "finger mouse", as in something you dont have to use your entire hand to hold onto. This used to be a huge gripe about the MS mice and the reason why I picked logitechs over them. I guess times have changed and the much praised mx510/mx510 seem to big for my taste. Not really sure if I am gonna be happy with that countoured shape, either. The best I have had in terms of size and shape is mx300. How does diamondback compare to that? I think I saw someone complaining about the razer's length for being too long.

While we are on on the topic, is there something cheaper? I would preferrably get something under $50 if possible. G5s seem to go on sale time to time, but they look humongous by my standards.

 

[Trippytiger]

I'd forget about the Logitech MX510/MX518/G5/G7 if you want a finger mouse. They're just no good for that.

The G3 is one to consider, though. It's quite compact, and a good size and shape for finger mousing. I can't do a direct comparison at the moment, but I'd say it's a bit taller and wider than the DB, but shorter. And it glides quite well on its big PTFE pads, which look like they'll last a lot longer than the little things on my Razer. Other pluses are that it has a higher-DPI laser sensor and uses Logitech's SetPoint software, which is more sophisticated than (but just as flaky as) the Razer software.

Overall, I do prefer my Diamondback over the G3. They're both good mice, but I find that my Diamondback is more comfortable, better built, has better software, and has better sensitivity adjustment.

I can't really compared the DB to the MX300, as I've only ever briefly played the MX300 in stores, but I think the Razer is probably a little shorter at the edges, a little narrower, and a little longer

 

[konakona]

Great, I think I am ready to look for a deal on a DB or copperhead. Looks like I missed out on one for copperhead they had last month
Thanks for suggestions