We all know you prefer you human beings in the mold of Donald Trump vs Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Says more about you
We all know you prefer you human beings in the mold of Donald Trump vs Ruth Bader Ginsburg.I was sad to hear of Justice Ginsburg's passing. This is the country she shaped and it's sad to see what she has wrought.
I believe the only way Trump doesn’t fill the seat is if 4 Republicans defect and refuse to confirm whoever he nominates, and then for Trump to subsequently lose the election. Although, IMO - Most likely any R senator would be crazy to vote against then nominee. It would be a guaranteed way to end their political career.
I expect that Trump will nominate someone shortly, but I think the bolder move for him would be to announce, “I will nominate a conservative constitutionalist replacement for Justice Ginsburg when I am reelected in November.” Once he nominates a justice, he loses a lot of leverage. McConnell will get his pick through, and Republicans will have locked in a conservative Supreme Court for a generation. At that point, voting for Trump loses some urgency for Republicans.
But if he essentially holds the nomination hostage to his own reelection, Republicans will have to go balls out to secure it – even more so than they are now. It would piss off Republican leaders to no end, but what does Trump care? It’d be like the scene from Goodfellas – “You want this Supreme Court seat? Fuck you, pay me.”
The Merrick Garland nomination showed that arguments about Senate process and precedents have zero resonance with voters. What will resonate with voters is showing that the nominee creates an all-but-guaranteed majority to overturn Roe, upend environmental protections, and reign in civil rights protections.
Exactly the pro lifers aren't on the fence. No reason this will bring back voters. But on the flip side, not like people needed more evidence to GOP hypocrisy and want to vote them out.I know Trump is going to jump on this life preserver with both hands but the available information indicates little political payoff. He's already got the court voters firmly inside the tent and the snapshot we have of a few states indicates public opinion is likely on Biden's side. Plus people are starting to vote and a confirmation battle will take weeks to play out.
That's close to the truth.Is this a parody account?
And now it's a different situation. Now it's the republican's looking to get another justice nominated. Why is that so hard to understand? They will most likely pull it off, then Joe will expand the court to eleven members and appoint two new justices. When the republican's are back in power they'll add enough body's to flip it the other way.Because McConnell established the precedent. If waiting until after the new president is inaugurated is now the practice/norm, then McConnell should do the same now as in 2016 if he's being consistent and truly believed what he said.
But of course he doesn't, because it was never about waiting for the new president in the first place. It was a paper thin argument to deny Garland a seat.
That's close to the truth.
And now it's a different situation. Now it's the republican's looking to get another justice nominated. Why is that so hard to understand? They will most likely pull it off, then Joe will expand the court to eleven members and appoint two new justices. When the republican's are back in power they'll add enough body's to flip it the other way.
Yes. It would be unique geographically but certainly possible. There are nations with many islands, for example, that are dispersed geographically. Some Greek islands are far closer to Turkey than they are to the Greek mainland. It's the only solution to maintain dignity. Trump governs as if there are two America's already, and Mitch has mocked democracy. We will have a majority of supreme court justices picked by presidents who lost the popular vote. Staying in the Union is like letting an abusive spouse continue to abuse you.You're talking secession? Way early for that. It isn't likely to happen. How could it, anyway? The blue states are on the coasts, basically, the red between them.
Maybe the way to go is what someone suggested term limits. Biden gets in and the Senate flips we slap an immediate 18 year term limit law (already previously proposed). Limits take effect immediately. Anyone on the bench >18 yrs goes. Biden then replaces them.That's close to the truth.
And now it's a different situation. Now it's the republican's looking to get another justice nominated. Why is that so hard to understand? They will most likely pull it off, then Joe will expand the court to eleven members and appoint two new justices. When the republican's are back in power they'll add enough body's to flip it the other way.
This is what I expected. To Trump this will be all about him and somehow saving his ass. The only way he really benefits with voters is if filling it depends on him being re-elected, on the other hand, putting someone in there beforehand who is a total sycophant - can help him when he tries to scam the election after a potential loss.
I think it's clear right now that Trump's play is going to be to hope that he's ahead on the night of the election. Then he'll take to Twitter and declare himself the winner, Fox News will most likely toe that line and feed the horseshit out for him. Then as the mailed ballots are caught up in counting and it turns out he's actually lost, he declares fraud and litigates, or he litigates to try and stop them from actually finishing counting the ballots. I think this is his real hope. The alternate is that he loses even before the mailed ballots are counted, which would be ideal, in which case again he'll just claim outright fraud - but it will be harder for him to scam in that case.
Tilting that court by installing a rubber stamp for him could help that aim. I think it would be a matter of being able to go there with something somewhat reasonable, not a total conspiracy theory of nonsense. I think him trying to get mailed in ballots to not be counted would be his play that he would hope they would stomach. You still have to think that something like that could lead to genuine armed insurrection of the populace. Trump is really hated, and if he genuinely loses the election on the measurable numbers, but pulls some court scam and keeps power - people at that point I would think would get violent.
Trump is in a major panic and is going to try something. He seems pretty aware he's in trouble for his election, and a loss for him could have much bigger implications than just losing.
And watch how quickly Lindsey comes up with some lame excuse on how that's no longer valid. We have both him andWonder how Lindsey is going to back track on this.
and this.
Might work. But how is that any better or more honest than what the republican's are doing? The democrats changing the rules to win the game will only work till the republican's are back in power. Then they pull off the same shenanigan's.Maybe the way to go is what someone suggested term limits. Biden gets in and the Senate flips we slap an immediate 18 year term limit law (already previously proposed). Limits take effect immediately. Anyone on the bench >18 yrs goes. Biden then replaces them.
Kind of hard for Republicans to retaliate because the only way to do that is to go down. They couldn't go low enough to take away Biden's picks esp if Biden gets more picks his second term.
How is it a different situation? A justice died right before an election. If the operating principle is "the next president should have the pick" then it doesn't matter who's in office - the Senate should hold off per McConnell's own words.That's close to the truth.
And now it's a different situation. Now it's the republican's looking to get another justice nominated. Why is that so hard to understand? They will most likely pull it off, then Joe will expand the court to eleven members and appoint two new justices. When the republican's are back in power they'll add enough body's to flip it the other way.
Yeah change how much power Senate leader has. Yes they have control on what comes up on the floor. But this blantent blocking Moscow Mitch has done has to have consequences.I agree that the republican's outright screwed Obama out of a court appointment, it was a bullshit maneuver, but it was also within the current rules. But I don't like the idea of a different set of rules every eight years so one side or the other can gain an advantage.
The sarcasm might have been a bit too vailed.How is it a different situation?
If the Ds capture the Presidency and the Senate they can restore the mandate at $1 with 51 votes and render the lawsuit moot.
He already did. After Kavanaugh, everything has changed according to him.And watch how quickly Lindsey comes up with some lame excuse on how that's no longer valid. We have both him and
Moscow Mitch on tape saying a new SCOTUS appointment should not happen with an impending election yet
RBG is still warm o the touch and he's already said a big "fuck you" to the American populace. A GOP person's word
isn't worth the air used to speak it.
Biden needs to come out and say that if the seat is filled before election or during lame duck, he will support ditching the filibuster and packing the court. That will get Democrats to the polls like nothing else.
This is where the Dems are going and I think it's generally the right tack.
Biden is almost certainly to soon lay out in very stark terms what the stakes (choice, healthcare, civil rights, gay marriage) are here and commit to "Using any and all options at our disposal" or something like that. No need to get too into the specifics since we know what it means now.
Nothing is off the table.. means nothing gets done because the Corporate Overlords love people as disposable beings.
I have ZERO faith in them to have a backbone and correct things.
Don't they take an oath to uphold the US Constitution? Yea, that shit went away years ago...Mail in voting chaos will ensure that the election is decided at the SCOTUS.
Filling this seat now IS the re-election.
This is where the Dems are going and I think it's generally the right tack.
Biden is almost certainly to soon lay out in very stark terms what the stakes (choice, healthcare, civil rights, gay marriage) are here and commit to "Using any and all options at our disposal" or something like that. No need to get too into the specifics since we know what it means now.
The sarcasm might have been a bit too vailed.
It's no different at all, but Mitch doesn't give a shit, and the folks that want Trump to get the appointment won't care either.