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Muse

Lifer
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This brings me to something I found disturbing. I saw a news story on TV last night about Trump supporters' demonstration in my region. I live in Alameda County, which is adjacent San Francisco County, CA. It was essentially apparently scores of trucks in the more rural and suburban portions of the county; as far as I could tell, just trucks with signs, shouting people and traversing the streets, maybe highways, probably blaring horns, hubbub, etc. Reporter(s) interviews a couple people.

This seems to me to kind of sum up Trump support. The stereotype would be rednecks, and redneck stereotype is pickup truck drivers. Am I wrong? I mean, WTF. Run the streets, contribute air pollution, noise pollution and AFAIK nothing in terms of meaningful information, just the fact that they are in Trump's camp, a parade of stereotypical Trump supporters. Word was they plan further such action(s). If they came to my town, Berkeley, and tried driving our streets with that spectacle there would almost certainly be violence, but I doubt they'd dare.
 
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Viper1j

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This brings me to something I found disturbing. I saw a news story on TV about Trump supporters' demonstration in my region. I live in Alameda County, which is adjacent San Francisco County, CA. It was essentially apparently scores of trucks in the more rural and suburban portions of the county; as far as I could tell, just trucks with signs, shouting people and traversing the streets, maybe highways, probably blaring horns, hubbub, etc. Reporter(s) interviews a couple people.

This seems to me to kind of sum up Trump support. The stereotype would be rednecks, and redneck stereotype is pickup truck drivers. Am I wrong? I mean, WTF. Run the streets, contribute air pollution, noise pollution and AFAIK nothing in terms of meaningful information, just the fact that they are in Trump's camp, a parade of stereotypical Trump supporters. Word was they plan further such action(s). If they came to my town, Berkeley, and tried driving our streets with that spectacle there would almost certainly be violence, but I doubt they'd dare.

The kind of people that say: "I'd like you to meet my wife and sister..."

And there's only one female standing there.
 

Ajay

Lifer
Jan 8, 2001
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I checked a few sources. The constitution does not specify "lifetime appointments"
Correct. But, the term "shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour." has been interpreted to mean that they cannot be removed other than for bad behaviour (impeachment) or voluntary retirement. There is nothing there that indicates that there could be term limits, so it does appear out of the hands of the legislature.
 
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eelw

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Dec 4, 1999
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This seems to me to kind of sum up Trump support. The stereotype would be rednecks, and redneck stereotype is pickup truck drivers. Am I wrong? I mean, WTF. Run the streets, contribute air pollution, noise pollution and AFAIK nothing in terms of meaningful information, just the fact that they are in
Yup they are overcompensating for something. And why they support the bully in chief.
 

BlueWeasel

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
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This seems to me to kind of sum up Trump support. The stereotype would be rednecks, and redneck stereotype is pickup truck drivers. Am I wrong? I mean, WTF. Run the streets, contribute air pollution, noise pollution and AFAIK nothing in terms of meaningful information, just the fact that they are in Trump's camp, a parade of stereotypical Trump supporters. Word was they plan further such action(s). If they came to my town, Berkeley, and tried driving our streets with that spectacle there would almost certainly be violence, but I doubt they'd dare.

Try living in the Deep South (Mississippi) and being surrounded by them. Most of them are uneducated morons who don't give a damn about anything except their guns and confederate statues. The GOP has done an excellent job instilling fear in them that a vote for any non-right wing president will to lead all of their guns being taken away.
 
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BUTCH1

Lifer
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Try living in the Deep South (Mississippi) and being surrounded by them. Most of them are uneducated morons who don't give a damn about anything except their guns and confederate statues. The GOP has done an excellent job instilling fear in them that a vote for any non-right wing president will lead all of their guns being taken away.
Yup, here in FL it's ALWAYS a giant truck, usually on huge tires with a confederate flag bolted to the bed. The low-IQ
gang loves Trump, dumb-fucks gotta vote too 'ya know!.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
Jul 15, 2000
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Nice compilation vid by the Washington Post of all the excuses from the senators who endorse
crapping on RBG's legacy,
I still say they are on really shaky ground here, RBG had mad respect from woman on both
sides the "fuck you" revenge vote can come into play. Pretty easy to lie to hubby and say you
voted GOP all the way.
 

SteveGrabowski

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That's close to the truth.

And now it's a different situation. Now it's the republican's looking to get another justice nominated. Why is that so hard to understand? They will most likely pull it off, then Joe will expand the court to eleven members and appoint two new justices. When the republican's are back in power they'll add enough body's to flip it the other way.

If the Democrats win the senate Biden should appoint 5 new justices, end the filibuster, and admit Puerto Rico, South DC, and North DC as new states in the union in time for the 2022 midterms. Or maybe even carve DC into 4 states.
 
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Grey_Beard

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Yup, here in FL it's ALWAYS a giant truck, usually on huge tires with a confederate flag bolted to the bed. The low-IQ
gang loves Trump, dumb-fucks gotta vote too 'ya know!.

They also have that Flo-grown decal too.
 
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alexruiz

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If the Democrats win the senate Biden should appoint 5 new justices, end the filibuster, and admit Puerto Rico, South DC, and North DC as new states in the union in time for the 2022 midterms. Or maybe even carve DC into 4 states.

I was thinking splitting California in 2, consolidating Wyoming and Montana into one, and consolidating both Dakotas into 1.
The bisons don't vote, they don't need that many senators
 

Sunburn74

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Oct 5, 2009
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I was thinking splitting California in 2, consolidating Wyoming and Montana into one, and consolidating both Dakotas into 1.
The bisons don't vote, they don't need that many senators
I don't think you can just split existing states so easily or consolidating them either.The people have to consent. Then you have to have new political and governing bodies arise not to mention all the administrative tasks get duplicated. It'd be a massive expense for the people involved (in fact its crazy enough that we have 50 states because we could cut down on serious administrative overhead by slimming to like 10 states or something).

Realistically speaking, you'd have an easier time making states by just adding DC and current US territories: guam, puerto rico, island of samoa all vote blue generally speaking. You could also do the virgin islands and the north mariana islands.
That would be the ultimate F-U to the republican party for their years of BS.
 
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HurleyBird

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In fact its crazy enough that we have 50 states because we could cut down on serious administrative overhead by slimming to like 10 states or something.

Absolutely. I was talking to some people who do software support for the nuclear device detectors in American highways (yes, that's a thing), and the impression I got was that the regulatory differences between all the different many states made for a giant headache.
 
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PlanetJosh

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I wonder if Felicity Rose Hadley Jones or Felicity Jones to most of us got a mention in the bio information about RBG in the thread. It's just a movie that Jones was in but parts of it were kind of inspiring. (On The Basis Of Sex is the film btw, about RBG's life.)
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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I don't think you can just split existing states so easily or consolidating them either.The people have to consent. Then you have to have new political and governing bodies arise not to mention all the administrative tasks get duplicated. It'd be a massive expense for the people involved (in fact its crazy enough that we have 50 states because we could cut down on serious administrative overhead by slimming to like 10 states or something).

Realistically speaking, you'd have an easier time making states by just adding DC and current US territories: guam, puerto rico, island of samoa all vote blue generally speaking. You could also do the virgin islands and the north mariana islands.
That would be the ultimate F-U to the republican party for their years of BS.

Which assumes the great Jerb Creators! will pick up the slack with more Jerbs instead of more offshoring & more automation, the usual.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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I wonder if Scotus justices ever vote against what they really believe in order to get more famous. So they can be more remembered in history. Not so much for a book or movie deal after they retire although that may be a secondary reason.

I'm glad that one or two conservative justices voted against Trump's policies in a couple rulings in the last year or two. I hope that's the way they really thought and that they didn't vote against their beliefs in an attempt to get more publicity. Would be nice if the replacement justice for RBG did that a few times. Sorry if it sounds like a conspiracy theory.

Scalia famously decided against himself on many occasions. I don't think he did it to be "famous," just to be an asshole.
 

pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
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I mean, sure - I guess we can talk about that... But as far as doing away with term limits just sounds like a recipe for some Putin.

It seems to me that term-limits for the Presidency are a sensible idea, but I don't see that it's clear that 2 is necessarily the 'right' number. You don't want someone to hang on to the job in perpetuity, for many decades, ala Castro or Gaddaffi, but I don't see that 3 terms would be outrageous.

I'd imagine most would be completely knackered and eager to go play golf after 3 terms, anyway.

Re the Supreme Court the complete absence any finite term seems a bad idea. I don't know that expanding the number wouldn't just kick the can down the road - seems to me it needs more fundamental reform. I don't see why the court has so much power anyway.
 
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Trump is on Fox and Friends this morning musing that this confirmation fight helps Gardner in CO and spending time attacking Collins and Murkowski.

And this is just nuts


Well i think its technically true we don't know she said that. (isnt it just her grand daughters word?) I'm just playing devils advocate on that.

But Mitch the Bitch and Lindsay sure as hell said that
 
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