RBG dead

[ivwshane]

Lady G isn't going against the Dear Leader, that would be suicide for his base's turnout in his senate election. Here's what I expect to happen:

1. Full confirmation hearings are held
2. Collins, Murkowski, and Romney make a stink of holding a vote before the inauguration. Gardner probably doesn't want one either, so McConnell holds off.
3. No vote happens before November 3rd
4. On the night of Nov 3rd Trump looks to be ahead on electoral votes based on the in-person vote without the mail-in vote having been counted
5. November 4th McConnell says Trump won, and Collins and Gardner become yes votes, Trump's shitbag nominee is confirmed

Four/five days later when we find out Biden really won McConnell can say he held the vote because all indications were Trump was re-elected.

I can see that.

 

[sportage]

If democrats are hoping that ANY republican senator will side "against" Donald Trump or Mitch McConnell, you're smoking too much of the funny stuff. All that we can expect is another side-show where one or two republicans say one thing before the vote, then fall-in-line "for" the vote. Come-on democrats, we've been through this before and more than once. Susan Collins won't save you, Lisa Murkowski won't save you, you know that. Trump could nominate KKK leader David Duke and Mitch McConnell would put him up for a vote, then Susan Collins would be outraged up to the moment she votes to affirm. Democrats, don't be silly. As Anton Chigurh once said in the film NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN, "you know how this is going to turn out, don't you."

 

[SteveGrabowski]

If the Democrats win the senate they really need to abolish the filibuster and then create the states of South DC, North DC, and Puerto Rico in time for the 2022 midterms.

 

[UNCjigga]

Maybe if they do try to push it through they will pick a moderate both sides can agree on.

Yeah, that strategy worked real well for Obama and Merrick Garland.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Grassley’s comments were “If I’m leading the judiciary committee, I wouldn’t take up a replacement”. It’s pretty much a meaningless statement today since Grassley doesn’t chair the Judiciary committee, Graham does. And Graham will do whatever gives the GOP the most power, morals, ethics or hypocrisy be damned. I wouldn’t place much hope in Grassley not voting for a replacement.

The line I’m hearing from McConnell and Graham, is that this is totally different from Garland because this time the Senate and the presidency is owned by the same party. Which really boils down to last time we didn’t want the nomination to go through and this time we do. If that's the case, do they really expect anyone to be fooled by that? Come on, just have the balls to come out and admit, “Yes the excuse we gave last time was self serving bullshit ... what are you gonna do about it!”

 

[Jaskalas]

This day is so bad it would rank right up thgere with Trump getting re-elected!

Mail in voting chaos will ensure that the election is decided at the SCOTUS.

Filling this seat now IS the re-election.

 

[blackangst1]

RIP for an amazing woman and SC judge.

 

[Timorous]

Trump / Mitch get someone appointed before the election so that if any election cases go to SCOTUS they can be fairly confident of a SCOTUS victory.

Edit.

Scenario. Trump is ahead at the in person counts on election night, declared victory. The mail in ballots start to get counted and Biden overtakes. Trump declares fraud, it goes to the now 6-3 SCOTUS who vote in favour of Trump.

 

[cytg111]

Scenario. Trump is ahead at the in person counts on election night, declared victory. The mail in ballots start to get counted and Biden overtakes. Trump declares fraud, it goes to the now 6-3 SCOTUS who vote in favour of Trump.

This is EXACTLY where this is heading.
Speculation on my part : Whom EVER Trump nominates is going to be someone who Putin has kompromat on. Your next election is 100% heading to the SC, no doubt about it.
That is the smell of game over.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

If you thought Kavanaughs was a shit appointment, wait until this one.

Bill Barr is my guess.

 

[Grey_Beard]

Bill Barr is my guess.

Tom Cotton would be even worse than a Barr or Cruz.

 

[K1052]

I know Trump is going to jump on this life preserver with both hands but the available information indicates little political payoff. He's already got the court voters firmly inside the tent and the snapshot we have of a few states indicates public opinion is likely on Biden's side. Plus people are starting to vote and a confirmation battle will take weeks to play out.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1307270894008573953

Mitch's motivations are different than Trump's at this point. Trump's (increasingly unlikely) re-election is basically irrelevant to his calculation here since he wants to fill the seat it's just a question of when he tries. I suspect it will be in the lame duck but there is a complication there. He's got 3 senate seats that look like goners, 1-2 more in real trouble, and 4-5 in spitting distance. A rout makes it more likely the Democrats massively retaliate.

 

[ivwshane]

Trump / Mitch get someone appointed before the election so that if any election cases go to SCOTUS they can be fairly confident of a SCOTUS victory.

Edit.

Scenario. Trump is ahead at the in person counts on election night, declared victory. The mail in ballots start to get counted and Biden overtakes. Trump declares fraud, it goes to the now 6-3 SCOTUS who vote in favour of Trump.

You have a pretty low opinion of the Supreme Court then as I doubt anyone except Thomas would stoop that low.

 

[fskimospy]

As seen when democrats passed the nuclear option of 50+ it only comes back to backfire in the end. I would humbly suggest not shooting yourself.

It’s amazing that anyone is dumb enough to believe this.

 

[ch33zw1z]

It’s amazing that anyone is dumb enough to believe this.

IKR, he claims he's humble 🙄

 

[cytg111]

As seen when democrats passed the nuclear option of 50+ it only comes back to backfire in the end. I would humbly suggest not shooting yourself.

And that line of thinking is what is getting you Putins America. Congratulations Mr Kruger.

 

[HomerJS]

Give me a break. You know damn well if the situation was reversed the dems would try to work it in their favor. Don't try to take the high ground. Both parties are shit. For gods sake the dems are running an old man they know full well cant serve and Harris is a fucking token.

Trump may get reelected and it's because these corrupt motherfuckers cant find 2 actual decent people that can beat Trump.

You are wrong and here's why.

Obama respected the norms of the office. Remember when he had information on Russia in 2016? He wanted to make the announcement in a bi-partisan fashion along with Mitch McConnel. However because Republicans are scumbags Moscow Mitch wouldn't cooperate. Obama didn't want to be seen as putting his thumb on the scales of the election and he didn't announce it.

 

[K1052]

It’s amazing that anyone is dumb enough to believe this.

I don't think a lot of people realize that the filibuster as currently implemented is a modern creation. Basically wasn't a thing until 1970. Consequently it has been horrific for the productivity of the Senate.

 

[HomerJS]

No other member of SCOTUS could garner this much love and respect.

 

[HomerJS]

I suspect people like @s0me0nesmind1 celebrating the death of RBG will come back to bite him Just my guess

 

[K1052]

CW is that court fights can only energize Rs. I dunno that Clarance Thomas shares that assessment.

Biden has weakness on the left flank and the very real prospect of an RBG replacement by McConnell on either side of the election seems like something that could move them more firmly into his camp and away from 3rd party votes.

 

[K1052]

They'll either fill it before election or in the lame duck. Either way, with Obamacare lawsuit on the docket, this election is now about whether you want to have health insurers be allowed to discriminate based on pre-existing conditions and tens of millions thrown off insurance next year, because SCOTUS will rule that way, and unless another law is passed to replace Obamacare, that's what will happen.

If the Ds capture the Presidency and the Senate they can restore the mandate at $1 with 51 votes and render the lawsuit moot.

 

[nOOky]

RIP RGB. Trump imho doesn't factor into any of this at all, this is all Mitch. As soon as Mitch gets a name, he'll be pushing it through. He gives two shits about Trump or his re-election, Mitch is all about Mitch and his legacy. Trump is bad, but the legacy of Mitch and how he fucked everyone is worse for the country.

 

[blankslate]

And now we will witness a most blatant display of hypocrisy by one Sen. McConnell and the amazing mental gymnastics that his defenders will perform to justify giving Trump a vote on a nominee just as soon as possible (after a socially acceptable period of mourning has pass of course).

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[K1052]

CW is that court fights can only energize Rs. I dunno that Clarance Thomas shares that assessment.

Biden has weakness on the left flank and the very real prospect of an RBG replacement by McConnell on either side of the election seems like something that could move them more firmly into his camp and away from 3rd party votes.

As I was saying.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1307296601271078918